It could have supported GSync though, no?
with an amd apu?
It could have supported GSync though, no?
It could have supported GSync though, no?
To my knowledge there are no TVs with current or planned freesync support, so if you want to utilize this you have to get s monitor.
Unfortunately, by the time any measure of TV's fully take advantage of this(or take advantage of it to begin with) the gen will almost be over :/
I wish TV manufacturers would get with the friggen times. Even HDR standards are not anywhere near simple or unified enough to be supported for consumers.
We've been on the HDMI 1.0 standard for so long you'd have thought these technologies would have been planned by companies to be supported in advance
Yea, realistically, I don't see it getting much use within Scorpio. Both due to TVs not adopting it and then games requiring an unlocked FPS option.
Next gen it should start getting some meaningful traction on consoles.
Sadly no. You HDTV/Monitor needs to have HDMI 2.1 as well. Those TVs most likely won't be out this year. But this is excellent news!Wow was not expecting this, could have sworn some posters here said it had Hdmi 2.0, also freesync sounds amazing!
My TV would be a KS8000, does it support this?
Ooof, yeah good point since it's gonna be awhile before HDMI 2.1 is a standard sadly.Any AV receiver would need to be replaced as well unfortunately.
Sadly no. You HDTV/Monitor needs to have HDMI 2.1 as well. Those TVs most likely won't be out this year. But this is excellent news!
Wasn't this always the case? Sony view the Pro as a deluxe version of the PS4, whereas MS have pretty much always hinted at Scorpio being Xbone 1.5.Personally, I think this helps paint the picture that Microsoft considers Scorpio to be a half-step towards next gen.
As I said in the Scorpio thread, this is huge.
Variable refresh support on a console is absolutely great. Now if only TV manufactures added variable refresh support in their products....
Freesync specifically, no, but VRR is part of the HDMI 2.1 spec so TVs in the future will support the standard.
Considering most people use shitty post processing on TVs and most TV signals are at a fixed framerate, are TV manufacturers really interested in this? I can't see them implementing this as it would increase cost and very few customers would have a use for it.
A correction. Freesync is just AMD's brand name for their certification of Adaptive Sync displays (and certification for working with their implementation)Brilliant.
I'd love for widespread freesync TVs.
Adaptive sync is really hard especially with audio being brought into the mix. Also contrary to popular belief an HDMI user does not need to implement the whole of the spec,You think they'd implement HDMI 2.1 but not include this feature?
its so funny to all of a sudden see Xbox fanboys scream in joy and celebration for freesync. When possibly most of them did not even know what it was or cared for it 2 hours ago. Before any more celebration goes on people need to read the fine print in the article,
"to see the benefit, you'll need to have a PC monitor - a 4K one preferably, though 1080p screens will work - and it needs to support FreeSync over HDMI. This limits the amount of potential screens as it's more frequently run via DisplayPort, a video output that is not supported by Scorpio."
Its gonna be years before TV manufacturers implement this if ever. Plus there are very few 4k Monitors that do freesync tru HDMI since most do it thru displayport. Plus pc monitors as far as ive heard, do not do HDR. Everybody calm down.
Must be one of the first HDMI 2.1 devices then? 4K 120hz output an option if the game chosoes to offer it?
If only Pro had this.
A mid gen refresh that doesn't really take advantage of any of the technologies that have become common since original console's launch is sort of disappointing when the only thing you get is upgrade in raw power.
Personally, I think this helps paint the picture that Microsoft considers Scorpio to be a half-step towards next gen.
No. Gsync is nvidia tech, the PS4 and Xbox have AMD gpus.
There we go! The whole story now. Pretty awesome, right?
You think they'd implement HDMI 2.1 but not include this feature?
its so funny to all of a sudden see Xbox fanboys scream in joy and celebration for freesync. When possibly most of them did not even know what it was or cared for it 2 hours ago. Before any more celebration goes on people need to read the fine print in the article,
"to see the benefit, you'll need to have a PC monitor - a 4K one preferably, though 1080p screens will work - and it needs to support FreeSync over HDMI. This limits the amount of potential screens as it's more frequently run via DisplayPort, a video output that is not supported by Scorpio."
Its gonna be years before TV manufacturers implement this if ever. Plus there are very few 4k Monitors that do freesync tru HDMI since most do it thru displayport. Plus pc monitors as far as ive heard, do not do HDR. Everybody calm down.
its so funny to all of a sudden see Xbox fanboys scream in joy and celebration for freesync. When possibly most of them did not even know what it was or cared for it 2 hours ago. Before any more celebration goes on people need to read the fine print in the article,
Its gonna be years before TV manufacturers implement this if ever.
So do TVs support freesync?
I for one will be using this feature and I knew what it was.its so funny to all of a sudden see Xbox fanboys scream in joy and celebration for freesync. When possibly most of them did not even know what it was or cared for it 2 hours ago. Before any more celebration goes on people need to read the fine print in the article,
"to see the benefit, you'll need to have a PC monitor - a 4K one preferably, though 1080p screens will work - and it needs to support FreeSync over HDMI. This limits the amount of potential screens as it's more frequently run via DisplayPort, a video output that is not supported by Scorpio."
Its gonna be years before TV manufacturers implement this if ever. Plus there are very few 4k Monitors that do freesync tru HDMI since most do it thru displayport. Plus pc monitors as far as ive heard, do not do HDR. Everybody calm down.
The HDMI spec that would include Freesync hadn't even been revealed when the Pro came out, let alone when they were designing it.
Well, damn, this is actually quite good. It's certainly forward lookong and depending on implementation may help older games as well. All this newer tech though is starting to make me think that $449 or $499 may be the price and not $399.
I really hope Sony is taking notes for PS5.
its so funny to all of a sudden see Xbox fanboys scream in joy and celebration for freesync. When possibly most of them did not even know what it was or cared for it 2 hours ago. Before any more celebration goes on people need to read the fine print in the article,
"to see the benefit, you'll need to have a PC monitor - a 4K one preferably, though 1080p screens will work - and it needs to support FreeSync over HDMI. This limits the amount of potential screens as it's more frequently run via DisplayPort, a video output that is not supported by Scorpio."
Its gonna be years before TV manufacturers implement this if ever. Plus there are very few 4k Monitors that do freesync tru HDMI since most do it thru displayport. Plus pc monitors as far as ive heard, do not do HDR. Everybody calm down.
It's nice to want things but it would be impossible for the Pro to have this given the timeframe of how/when the standard was finalized.Such a great feature it really makes you feel like the Xbox 360 design philosophy that MS had is back for Scorpio after the enormous misfire that Xbox One was with its kinect and TV features.
If only Pro had this.
A mid gen refresh that doesn't really take advantage of any of the technologies that have become common since original console's launch is sort of disappointing when the only thing you get is upgrade in raw power.
its so funny to all of a sudden see Xbox fanboys scream in joy and celebration for freesync. When possibly most of them did not even know what it was or cared for it 2 hours ago. Before any more celebration goes on people need to read the fine print in the article,
"to see the benefit, you'll need to have a PC monitor - a 4K one preferably, though 1080p screens will work - and it needs to support FreeSync over HDMI. This limits the amount of potential screens as it's more frequently run via DisplayPort, a video output that is not supported by Scorpio."
Its gonna be years before TV manufacturers implement this if ever. Plus there are very few 4k Monitors that do freesync tru HDMI since most do it thru displayport. Plus pc monitors as far as ive heard, do not do HDR. Everybody calm down.
I love the futureproofing aspect of the inclusion. It's super smart.
But how do people rationalize this as an actual gamechanger? People will barely be able to see the benefits of this inclusion until we are deep into 2018. Not to mention that it actually requires buying a brand new TV.
And something tells me that owners of 4K / Freesync monitors don't really own them to hook up consoles for the most part, seeing as they are mostly sold to the enthusiast PC gaming crowd.
Still, interesting stuff and very forward-thinking.
its so funny to all of a sudden see Xbox fanboys scream in joy and celebration for freesync. When possibly most of them did not even know what it was or cared for it 2 hours ago. Before any more celebration goes on people need to read the fine print in the article,
"to see the benefit, you'll need to have a PC monitor - a 4K one preferably, though 1080p screens will work - and it needs to support FreeSync over HDMI. This limits the amount of potential screens as it's more frequently run via DisplayPort, a video output that is not supported by Scorpio."
Its gonna be years before TV manufacturers implement this if ever. Plus there are very few 4k Monitors that do freesync tru HDMI since most do it thru displayport. Plus pc monitors as far as ive heard, do not do HDR. Everybody calm down.
Why tell people to calm down? Including a feature to future proof a console for years after launch is a great thing and we, as consumers, should be encouraging that behavior.
This is a move that MS didn't really need to do but they did to provide an experience that will persist through the next TV hardware generation.