GravityInsanity
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NPD Sales Results For March 2017 [Up2: Year to date charts, platform specific charts]
Yeah, I immediately thought of Animal Crossing after I pressed post, but still.
Fire Emblem SoV and Fire Emblem Heroes are both this year, have to imagine there'll be a gap until the next entry.
Not convinced we actually see a 2D Zelda on Switch anytime soon. Would just feel like a massive step down from BotW, hard to see how they can sell a Link Between Worlds style game for the same price.
2D Mario will surely come, I just hope it's not a Mario Maker port. And I imagine that we'll see a 2D DK game, whether it's a port of Tropical Freeze or a new one.
I suppose those games could carry 2018, but I've been burned too many times to imagine all these amazing games within 2 years of launch. For the moment I'll just stay happy that the Switch is a huge success and see where they go from here.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Doesn't really matter when your console is considered the "default" platform for the biggest games of the year.
Destiny and RDR are gonna EAT this fall.
Capcom announced the game made money around the time it shipped 3 million. Still, it's looking like a 30-40% drop in units sold compared to RE6, which is a direction you never want to be moving in as a AAA publisher.
DecoReturns
Member
In the Fire Emblem direct. They mention Fire Emblem Switch as a planned 2018 title.
Now obviously, things could change, but Fire Emblem games typically don't get delayed and IS seems to developed their games on a timely matter.
I guess we will see tho.
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I was wondering how Nier: Automata did compared to Nier 1's first week sales? I don't believe we have had any data on that.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Looking at the charts..I think that's the point
I honestly wouldn't be that surprised by it. Pokémon plus Mario would do very well -- especially if one gets a system bundle.
I wouldn't say this. Especially as we don't know what month the Scorpio will release. I have a strong feeling that there will be a pretty significant amount of current Xbox One owners that will upgrade (mainly ones that bought the original Xbox One before Holiday 2014). If the system releases in November then I would agree with you. October though? I think there's a good chance that the bump from original Xbox One owners would help it a lot vs. the other systems during that month.
LastMinuteHero
Member
Not to mention that sony has a marketing deal with all 4 of them..
None of which are coming to the Switch; all of them will be heavily marketed for PS4 as well, leaving little room for the XB1 to maneuver.
Barring some wildcard or last minute shocker at E3 coming from Nintendo/MS, this holiday season is Sony's to lose.
Lord of Castamere
Member
RE7 has no legs. Flat on it's face. Not surprising. It was too short. No reason to keep it. Too many scenes that play exactly the same each time. Great VR game(maybe the best out right now), I'm sure, not such a good game overall.
Does anyone have any further context for this?
Since this was the full year, could Story of Seasons have done over 200k? That'd be pretty crazy, though I imagine it's closer to 100k.
This list also doesn't make sense.
The top 20 NPD released a few days ago had both Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon (separately) above Final Fantasy XV, yet they're below Dark Souls 3, which was 8 spots below Pokémon Moon?
This doesn't make sense. If Switch is winning comfortably through to August, then it will do even better during the holiday period.
I can't see how PS4 will suddenly top the charts "easily" at the end of the year if the Switch will "comfortably" win NPDs through to August unless Switch sales suddenly collapse before the holiday period, it would continue to keep growing through to the holidays.
I agree. I think Gran Turismo will be overshadowed in North America if it releases after August.
MatPiscatella
Member
Sam, your pineapple on pizza take is horrible. Pineapple on pizza is great.
If you're referring to the list in the ESA release you must note that the ESA list is ranked on units while the list in the NPD release for March is ranked on dollars.
If you're referring to the list in the ESA release you must note that the ESA list is ranked on units while the list in the NPD release for March is ranked on dollars.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
When I say Switch will win comfortably I'm talking like 50 to 75k or 100k at the most. The Destiny 2 bump will be MUCH higher than that so it does make sense.
Your reasoning behind it doesn't even make any sense as well.
Prototype Viktor
Member
A system with more consoles and games
Vs
A system still building out it's units and not as many games
StrongBlackVine
Banned
What reasoning would that be? Are you saying you don't expect Destiny 2 to move major units? Just going by history Destiny bundles sell a LOT of PS4s.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Seems simple enough. The biggest third party releases will be marketed and bundled with said system/poster expects that to elevate the sales enough to take the switch what's not making sense
You're claiming that a system that would be in growth winning NPDs would suddenly fall to another system that has probably already hit peak growth YoY for hardware.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Yes. Just wait and see. With the release calendar as it currently stands now it is a lock. Also you don't know that PS4 has peaked just yet. This holiday could easily be better than the last one.
So you are saying the market for PS4 is almost exhausted? I disagree. It still has the price and games advantage going forward.
Has it peaked?
PS4 hitting that fabled $199 during the holidays with all the big 3rd party titles (and maybe Spider-Man) should be a pretty massive seller.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
This Sam Nagini guy is going to get fired by the time he wakes up tomorrow. I bet Sony and MS are calling his bosses right now. lol
I mean it's a great surprise but that came out of nowhere. And i bet Sony doesnt like people questioning their worldwide sales figures of 2.6 million when it sold only 600k in NA. i dont think Sony would lie about this but man it doesnt look good.
Wildlands outselling Horizon is fucking bizarre too. people love their shooters. i just dont know how you can pick drug cartels over mother fucking Dinobots.
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I mean it's a great surprise but that came out of nowhere. And i bet Sony doesnt like people questioning their worldwide sales figures of 2.6 million when it sold only 600k in NA. i dont think Sony would lie about this but man it doesnt look good.
Wildlands outselling Horizon is fucking bizarre too. people love their shooters. i just dont know how you can pick drug cartels over mother fucking Dinobots.
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Liabe Brave
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In 2017, PS4 is only down about 20k units YoY. One slightly bigger release than last year could easily put them up.
Horizon probably sold well over 800k in the U.S. (not North America) in March.
That list is all sorts of wrong since The Division should be above many of those games as well as Pokémon.
I remember some GAFers were saying Horizon would sell equal or greater than Zelda. Love some of them to eat crow now
Obliterator
Member
Uh....what? RE7 has shown great legs, especially for its genre
AHA-Lambda
Member
Man that's a good month all around sales wise.
One thing that stood out to me is it would seem Andromeda is doing better in US than UK at least
One thing that stood out to me is it would seem Andromeda is doing better in US than UK at least
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
What is this in reference to?
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Wasn't only out for a few days also? I think it came out end if March.
So, literally the biggest (hype) opening quarter in industry history and it's down YoY?
If 2017 ends up being that stacked, why does everyone think 2018 has to be better?
It's literally impossible for 2018 to be better.
All those games are the opposite of frontloaded so they'd keep selling for years. 2018 would only need to supplement it, not outdo it.
It's not like 2018 has to compete against 2017 or something.
You know that he and MatP are officially sanctioned by NPD to post this stuff and engage in discussion, right?
Your posts on this thread have been pretty bizarre.
AquaWateria
Member
Yeah that's one thing people forget is that titles like 3D Mario, Mario Kart, Zelda, Pokemon, and Smash are evergreen titles that will keep on selling throughout Switch's life.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I guess you think it's all downhill for PS4 based on your comments.DecoReturns
Member
Well this particular Zelda is evergreen.
Not all Zelda games are technically evergreen. Wind Waker and Skyward Swords didn't do that.
I'm guessing Nintendo is planning a 2D Mario and animal crossing. Those seem to be the other big sellers they have
- For 2018 AC is a definite imo. 2D mario seems likely, but with Mario Maker I wonder.
- FE is probably considered a big seller now
- Retro's game
- New Mario and Luigi could be ready by fall. If not, 2019.
- MK8D DLC (imo)
- Maybe a same engine smaller budget game like Captain Toad was?
- I thought a new Kirby would be ready but that "2017 3DS Action Kirby game" has me on hold...
after that, I'm not sure about the lineup. It'll be nice to be surprised, since leaks have taken somewhat from this year.
Liabe Brave
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Yes? You seem to think this indicates something is terribly wrong; if so, I can only suggest that you continue to read sales-age GAF (or other resources) until you have a better understanding. No single number ever sums an entire situation--especially in cases like this, where there's other data that points toward a different conclusion.
And_Gignac
Member
Which data is that? PS4 had one of its biggest quarters ever software wise. And yet is still down YoY. What other data suggest this is not something to take notice on?
And all of them Sony bought exclusive marketing rights for.
Welfare
Member
I'm pretty sure it is safe to assume PS4 is going to be down YoY until at least September. The system has been down YoY since June 2016 and nothing out in April would cause sales to hold better compared to April 2016, May 2016 was UC4 month and nothing like that is out this May. June to August are standard fare so again, nothing to spike sales over 2016. September to November are the most likely months to be up YoY just because of higher profile releases and December is a wildcard.
dreamlongdead
Member
Why even worry about this? The gap can be filled by Nintendo and their partners. I think it's really good that there will actually be games to play on Switch during the holiday.
Nintendo has to hit the ground running. Worked well for NES, SNES, and Wii.