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Blade Runner 2049 Official Trailer
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Blargonaut
Banned
Think about the timeframe. Then the tech.
30 years, but then complaints about T-shirts, vehicles and guns being the same as back then? And then complaints about the same environments as before, but looking too clean now?
Firstly, humanity isn't replacing the trusty T-shirt as a bit of easy and practical casual wear anytime soon. Complaints about the T-shirt are ridiculous, trying to replace a wheel. And only does it look good on old Deckard, it fits his no-frills character as well.
And vehicles? Honestly, where do you go from the flying cars they already had, barring faster, more efficient or automated iterations? That goes for their guns as well, again especially considering the given apparent timeframe for any possible advancements. 30 years.
A good gun design can often stay in service with an organization for decades, if it still continues to meet their evolving requirements, just tweaked and enhanced over time but the overall design may remain. Again, only 30 years here.
Then, you see those big-ass megastructures? Those're back from the original, right? Do you even realize what kind of arcana would need to happen in 30 years to renovate, refurbish, demolish and/or replace all of those COLOSSAL buildings? ESPECIALLY, with people still living and working inside them? The best that society could do with all that architectural baggage, in 30 years... is, surprise, clean it up as much as they can afford to.
Hence, fictionally-justified, the degree of missing "grime and filth". So apparently, by 2049 they tidied up their house; same city, just polished. But of course, the filth is still there, just buried. Hence, their need to still maintain the same order despite the change on the surface, as the problem causes haven't been addressed, just swept out of sight. Hence, Gosling's moving to uncover the old filth as the plot of this, bring it back to surface for us to see...
IMO, what we'll be seeing in Blade Runner 2049 is like a continuation of an '80s vision of the future, right? Cyberpunk... moving on.
You might say that the "grime and filth" was what made the world of Blade Runner feel "lived-in" and "iconic"; but again, time has passed where we're returning. Times have changed. Something about that old '80s cyberpunk vision of the future clashing with our current forecasts, which are based on the reality of the '10s. However, cyberpunk's high-tech-low-life is even more of an issue in our reality than it was back then, and I think we're going to be examining the cellular pager that is old cyberpunk, through the lens of the new smartphone, so to speak.
... /ramble
30 years, but then complaints about T-shirts, vehicles and guns being the same as back then? And then complaints about the same environments as before, but looking too clean now?
Firstly, humanity isn't replacing the trusty T-shirt as a bit of easy and practical casual wear anytime soon. Complaints about the T-shirt are ridiculous, trying to replace a wheel. And only does it look good on old Deckard, it fits his no-frills character as well.
And vehicles? Honestly, where do you go from the flying cars they already had, barring faster, more efficient or automated iterations? That goes for their guns as well, again especially considering the given apparent timeframe for any possible advancements. 30 years.
A good gun design can often stay in service with an organization for decades, if it still continues to meet their evolving requirements, just tweaked and enhanced over time but the overall design may remain. Again, only 30 years here.
Then, you see those big-ass megastructures? Those're back from the original, right? Do you even realize what kind of arcana would need to happen in 30 years to renovate, refurbish, demolish and/or replace all of those COLOSSAL buildings? ESPECIALLY, with people still living and working inside them? The best that society could do with all that architectural baggage, in 30 years... is, surprise, clean it up as much as they can afford to.
Hence, fictionally-justified, the degree of missing "grime and filth". So apparently, by 2049 they tidied up their house; same city, just polished. But of course, the filth is still there, just buried. Hence, their need to still maintain the same order despite the change on the surface, as the problem causes haven't been addressed, just swept out of sight. Hence, Gosling's moving to uncover the old filth as the plot of this, bring it back to surface for us to see...
IMO, what we'll be seeing in Blade Runner 2049 is like a continuation of an '80s vision of the future, right? Cyberpunk... moving on.
You might say that the "grime and filth" was what made the world of Blade Runner feel "lived-in" and "iconic"; but again, time has passed where we're returning. Times have changed. Something about that old '80s cyberpunk vision of the future clashing with our current forecasts, which are based on the reality of the '10s. However, cyberpunk's high-tech-low-life is even more of an issue in our reality than it was back then, and I think we're going to be examining the cellular pager that is old cyberpunk, through the lens of the new smartphone, so to speak.
... /ramble
-shadow-
Member
Either the Final Cut or the Workprint. But the shape that the workprint is in isn't the best due to the what they had to work with. So that's up to you.
Some screenshots I grabbed as huge PNGs. I'll edit them out if necessary.
Um.... what?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Jesus
Inferno313
Banned
You guys are acting like you can give a detailed critique of the entire movie because you saw 2 minutes of unfinished footage.
Christ.
Christ.
Blade Runner is my favorite movie and when I saw the trailer I knew, I am not going to watch this. But it is the perfect Blade Runner for neo-gaf.
plus
No grit, no filth, no sex, no blood, nothing offensive. A nicely cleaned up version of a dystopian future.
i'm assuming this is a joke post
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
Hold on to your butt. This movie is gonna get a fair amount of undeserved nerd nostalgia blowback.
I'm not going to watch any trailers for this but from the screengrabs I've seen. I'm so in.
Moff
Member
what if it's a prequel where the future is still clean. deckard (a replicant) waited until 2049 until time travel was ready and traveled back to the 90s, where he found a way to create humans, and created himself as ryan gosling who will age into a deckard lookalike, kill replicant deckard and become human deckard, who will age into the aged harrison ford, so basically replicant deckard made himself human, which is the wish of every replicant as we know.
SuperStiltzkin
Member
Another one of your thinly veiled anti-"SJWs" posts.
You should see his impassioned posts defending Ghost in the Shell 2017 by saying that people who hated it are responsible for getting Trump elected.
Askherserenity
Member
Not going to watch any trailers but if people are saying the trailer does look a bit too clean compared to that grimey look and feel of the original, that's a bit of a bummer and fair criticism.
It is just a trailer but the movie isn't TOO far off from release.
Wouldn't make or break the movie for me though.
It is just a trailer but the movie isn't TOO far off from release.
Wouldn't make or break the movie for me though.
riskybusinesstomcruise
Member
To me it looks like less of a personal journey for K (Goslings character) and more like he's a small fry caught up in bigger events. He might be a replicant, but I don't think his origins or personal goals will be a huge factor in the story. Seems more like he maybe knows something he shouldn't and so important corporate people are after him, or he's been hired by one corporation to investigate something that doesn't turn out to be what they said it was.
UnemployedVillain
Member
People in here are literally saying they want artificial film grain in their movies. They're as insufferable as people wanting fake CRT scanlines in ever low res sprite based game
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
Bobby Roberts
Banned
What are we talking about when we talk "gritty"
Do we mean the sets were wetted down and dirtied up before shooting? Or are we talking about film grain?
Because film grain isn't "grit," And film was "HD" as we now understand it long before we came up with "HD" as a format.
Blade Runner was a dirty, used, well-lived in (and trashed) looking universe deliberately. It was designed to look that way. But Jordan Cronenweth shot it beautifully, and the cinematography is, itself, very crisp and amazing to look at. There is film grain (even on Ridley's final cut) but I don't think that is what people refer to when they mention Blade Runner being "gritty."
And again, we don't know that there isn't a reason for this 30-years-later city to be a little less dirtied up. I have a hard time believing that someone as detail oriented as Villenueve happened to just... miss the look of Blade Runner when he set out to film its follow up.
http://www.screenhead.com/details-of-blade-runner/
No, it was part of the of the movie. Earth is a overcrowded dump in Blade Runner, everything shows that. Earth was done anyway, the future was in space. So why clean the place up, according to the original it was only getting worse.
How are you defining "artificial"? With digital video, you craft the look of it however you want in post, the concept of "in camera" isn't the same as it used to be when you shoot everything RAW. The idea that grain should no longer exist as a stylistic choice because of the new format of cameras is silly.
Also, film was always "HD", the limitation was in the displays.
Moff
Member
maybe atari are still around because they created a powerful cleaning tool
brandonh83
Banned
Bobby Roberts
Banned
We can stop acting surprised
You dont' have to be surprised by bullshit to point it out.
i might be the only person in the world who feels that deakin's best work is with the cohen brothers largely because of their methodology in how they film their films as well as reining him in somewhat by not letting his camerawork do more than required. the pairing between the two is beautiful and resulted in some of my favorite movies ever.
on the other hand, when he's paired with other directors, i find the films tend to be way too over-composed to a point of being a distraction and arguably too clean in the least appealing ways. i feel like he and the directors rely too heavily on fixing a lot of the shots in post? these films tend to have a very weird digital look to it all regardless of how it was shot. i don't know. it just feels off to me, especially in this trailer
also, i had some hope for this film but seeing harrison ford running kind-of killed a lot of my enthusiasm.
on the other hand, when he's paired with other directors, i find the films tend to be way too over-composed to a point of being a distraction and arguably too clean in the least appealing ways. i feel like he and the directors rely too heavily on fixing a lot of the shots in post? these films tend to have a very weird digital look to it all regardless of how it was shot. i don't know. it just feels off to me, especially in this trailer
also, i had some hope for this film but seeing harrison ford running kind-of killed a lot of my enthusiasm.
Well, just got done watching Sicario.
The tension buildup in this movie was insane, was on the edge of my seat the entire time.
Benicio had me legit shook, that night dinner scene, did not expect that shit.
Also, I know now why he went with this composer, fits really well with Blade Runner.
The tension buildup in this movie was insane, was on the edge of my seat the entire time.
Benicio had me legit shook, that night dinner scene, did not expect that shit.
Also, I know now why he went with this composer, fits really well with Blade Runner.
Rudimental
Member
The fuck? Why is there a 5 second trailer of the trailer at the start? Is this a thing these days?
fierrotlepou
Member
So the US is getting this in June, and we Belgians have to wait until October. This is just ridiculous, especially because there will be high res rips on the internet by then, making sure I have to be extremely cautious not to get spoiled.
I almost spit out my water while reading this. xD
Trailer didn't do much for me, but it's just a trailer. Cinematography looks nice to my eyes, but I also wasn't feeling the overly clean look others have mentioned. Will definitely still check this out either way.
It's released everywhere in October.
It's to reel in people who scroll past it on their Facebook feed
RoninChaos
Member
... I dunno. Maybe.
Neff
Member
Bit disappointing, really.
I'm not very high church on the original but I do (obviously) think it looks fucking amazing. And there's a curious lack of texture and detail in this sequel, at least based on what we've been shown. Scott's movie is a definitive masterclass picture for concept artists and set dressers everywhere, every frame bursts with stuff fighting for your attention. It's a claustrophobic, pornographic orgy of futuristic kluge. This trailer looks like a series of very pretty, airy, monochromatic lighting setups with not much to light. Shame, because the prospect of revisiting Scott's future as he originally envisioned it, with a bigger budget and today's effects technology is, or was, very exciting.
I'm not very high church on the original but I do (obviously) think it looks fucking amazing. And there's a curious lack of texture and detail in this sequel, at least based on what we've been shown. Scott's movie is a definitive masterclass picture for concept artists and set dressers everywhere, every frame bursts with stuff fighting for your attention. It's a claustrophobic, pornographic orgy of futuristic kluge. This trailer looks like a series of very pretty, airy, monochromatic lighting setups with not much to light. Shame, because the prospect of revisiting Scott's future as he originally envisioned it, with a bigger budget and today's effects technology is, or was, very exciting.
Rudimental
Member
Oh, right. Thanks. I'm not on Facebook so just seemed totally bizarre to me.
PatThePassive
Member
Gosling is such a replicant I cant stand it.
Leaving the city is stupid, The replicant stuff is weird, they are kinda born now? I always thought it was a more mechanical process that contributed to their treatment as tools,
but we see one plopping out of a sheet covered in goo and the world where people threat them as inhuman is starting to seem ludicrous.
I assume this is how people who prefer blade runner to GitS felt seeing the GitS trailers.
I sure hope a better trailer comes out this one didn't sell me on anything.
Villain? or weird guy is not intimidating at all
Leaving the city is stupid, The replicant stuff is weird, they are kinda born now? I always thought it was a more mechanical process that contributed to their treatment as tools,
but we see one plopping out of a sheet covered in goo and the world where people threat them as inhuman is starting to seem ludicrous.
I assume this is how people who prefer blade runner to GitS felt seeing the GitS trailers.
I sure hope a better trailer comes out this one didn't sell me on anything.
Villain? or weird guy is not intimidating at all
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
Leto is totally going to be Feyd-Rautha in Dune, isn't he?
fierrotlepou
Member
I'd like to welcome you guys to 90% of MovieGAF "discussions".PSY・S;236144625 said:
Well said.
Into the Light
Banned
What the hell is GiTS you guys and your acronyms man.
And it still is exciting, perhaps more so than ever.
And it still is exciting, perhaps more so than ever.
ShutterMunster
Junior Member
Can someone please re-host the Pro Res version of the trailer?