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[BackwardCap]

"This alternate retelling of Pokemon Sun and Pokemon Moon has over 20 additional minutes of Lillie griping about how useless she is."

What if she switches places with Gladion in this one.

 

[MaximumSpider]

I'm more mad that this how they're using Necrozma.

Yeah, if we need to be salty about anything IT'S THIS.

 

[bryanee]

The irony in that is by doing it this way they're hurting the sales potential of the Switch this holiday. What parents are gonna pick up a Switch for their kids on Black Friday when a brand new Pokémon game is out for a cheaper N2DS XL?

Nintendo has to realize that with their announcement today they are forcing the Switch and 3DS to compete with each other this holiday.

I think the Switch will sell great this fall regardless of Pokemon being on it. Nintendo will sell as many Switch's as they can make.

 

[Hydrus]

Those new forms look horrible. GF has 8 year olds doing designs now?

 

[AlexMeloche]

YESSSSSSSSS

 

[Dre3001]

For every great idea Nintendo has, they counter it tons of poor decisions. I don't get how they are still so out of touch.

Where are the details of UltraSun and UltraMoon? Who was honestly asking for a Pokken port? And why dedicate an entire direct to this when both these titles could have been announced in a press release?

 

[HawthorneKitty]

Should we expect an N2DSXL bundle with this?

Probably no bundle, but a special console.

 

[DNAbro]

I'm upset the Switch rumor seems busted (thanks Eurogamer, now I know not to trust any body who says they got Pokemon rumors), but uhh fuck yeah more Pokemon. Will probably get Ultra Moon since I got Sun the first time around.

 

[thepenguin55]

What's the point of doing a hybrid system if you're not launching your biggest handheld IP on it as soon as possible?

This is pretty typical of the Pokémon series. I mean, they were still putting out Pokémon games on the DS after the 3DS launched.

They bet their credibility on Pokémon Stars Switch exclusive for 2017.

Technically, this does nothing to change the likelihood of something like a Pokémon Stars coming to the Switch... though this probably means that such a game would be a winter 2018 game.

 

[Subtervotion]

To everyone saying I can't believe people expected a switch Pokémon stars version...

Hd assets, upscaling. We've seen it with our own eyes. This is why we expected it. It's not hard to comprehend. Switch is a mobile console. It makes sense. It's not wild speculation.

 

[Nintenleo]

Feel so good. While this is a classic move by Game Freak, most people just didn't see it coming because of "leaks". It's not completely wild speculatiob, but they would never split the user base within the same Pokemon generation.

That said, of course I can't wait too for a complete HD Pokemon rpg for Switch.

Well, time to go playing Mother 3 on Wii U Virtual Console guys.

 

[Black_Red]

The irony in that is by doing it this way they're hurting the sales potential of the Switch this holiday. What parents are gonna pick up a Switch for their kids on Black Friday when a brand new Pokémon game is out for a cheaper N2DS XL?

Nintendo has to realize that with their announcement today they are forcing the Switch and 3DS to compete with each other this holiday.

Nintendo will have Mario for this holiday, and Mario Kart bundles sell well (this even includes 2 controllers).

 

[Sgt. Garlic]

Laziest ? Care to share want about it seems lazy ?
New Pokemon, New locations, new forms don't seem lazy to me.

Seems disappointing. B2W2 were sequels, these just seem like updates. Though, I guess I should wait for more information to come out. It's looking like a skip from me for now.

 

[Crazyorloco]

What's the point of doing a hybrid system if you're not launching your biggest handheld IP on it as soon as possible?

Does the switch need this game right now? it's selling pretty well.

Also, given the population/number of users will it sell more on the Switch or on the 3DS/2DS?

 

[JershJopstin]

I think that kills off the notion entirely that Nintendo sees the Switch as a 3DS successor. We'll have a new handheld in a couple of years and the next Pokemon will be on that. The Switch is their Wii U successor, not a hybrid.

Yup, this. Still waiting on that DS successor since they indicated they don't see the 3DS as one by releasing BW2 in 2012.

Spoiler

/s

 

[Z3M0G]

THAT'S NICE NINTENDO WHERE THE FUCK IS THE SWITCH VERSION

If it is minor rework of previous Sun/Moon, it wouldn't be worth the effort.

Switch likely needs to wait for next major "series".

 

[Alchemist]

This reminds of when Sony announced Gran Turismo 6 as a PS3 only title.

3DS..in 2017. Just no.

 

[RainbowIslands]

The background. That's an Eclipse.

Logos are Eclipses. Necrozma forming an armor on sun/moon (legendary pokemon) = eclipse.

 

[BlueSparrow]

 

[TheFatMan]

I don't know what people were thinking if you believed that Stars was coming out this year....

I mean Nintendo has put out Zelda, Mario, ARMS, Splatoon, Mario Kart and supposedly Xenoblade this year on there release schedule.

Why on Earth would they also release a Pokemon game? You think they want that competing with Mario this fall? Not even a little bit.

They gotta save some shit for next year haha.

 

[Spades]

 

[-Horizon-]

Some of y'all need to back away from your pc or phone and take a deep breath jeez.

 

[Aselith]

Why does Nintendo try so hard to hamstring their consoles :

I don't know what people were thinking if you believed that Stars was coming out this year....

I mean Nintendo has put out Zelda, Mario, ARMS, Splatoon, Mario Kart and supposedly Xenoblade this year on there release schedule.

Why on Earth would they also release a Pokemon game? You think they want that competing with Mario this fall? Not even a little bit.

They gotta save some shit for next year haha.

They are releasing a Pokemon game this holiday...

 

[lwilliams3]

You know, it is still possible to have ultra sun/moon for 3DS and Stars for Switch. Enjoy the ride.

 

[Francokid1]

Aside from the hype train crashing and burning...

I've been wanted to replay Moon since I thought it was fun. So, I'm hoping there are significant differences. I don't see why Nintendo would re-release Sun and Moon now.

 

[t hicks]

Not too surprised that's it's only on 3DS but that's still lame, guess I'll just wait for the next main PKMN game since I don't have a 3DS anymore

 

[Mr-Joker]

So glad that the Eurogamer rumour ended up being not true as it was getting so annoying seeing folk acting like it was the gospel truth.

I always believed that Star would remain on the 3DS when I saw the Super 2DS XL.


Oh one more thing, SUCK IT ZYGARDE, along with the rest of gen 6.

Maybe a Stars game is also coming to Switch.... Or are we giving up?

This is star.

They only did this because TPC puts in bare minimum effort on the iterations and they literally don't have to make any new assets as long as it's on the 3DS.

No, they are probably already hard at work on a Switch Pokémon game, but want to start a new Generation on the console rather than starting towards the end.

What the heck are they though exactly? DLC? Updated games? Entirely new titles? Stream didn't show much.

It's a new game.

Um...why is this so shocking? This isn't CALLED Pokemon Stars and it implies that it's more of a slightly 'expanded' version of Sun/Moon then anything else. And the Switch IS getting a Pokemon game in the form of Pokken Deluxe.

I'm sure the Switch will get a RPG Pokemon at some point but we didn't see Pokemon jump to the DS the moment that came out, same with Black & White 2 releasing on the DS when the 3DS was out and about.

Game Freak is weird sometimes, so we should know this by now.

This is pretty much "Pokémon Star" as we saw Necrozma being merged with the Sun and Moon box mascot.

Gen 7 is coming to a close and will go down in history as the most shortest gen, assuming that we don't get the Sinnoh remake next year.

 

[Pastry]

Literally zero desire to go back to 3DS or 2DS screens after the Switch

 

[Novel Mike]

They said 'first game' because they'll support it with mainline games in the future. Nothing more to it.

I'm aware I was reaching pretty hard. It would absolutely be a Nintendo move to troll people with a surprise Stars announcement during the E3 direct though >.>

 

[MattAces]

I think there's a curse where if the console appears in the game, the mainline will never get a release on that console.

 

[jph139]

Those new forms look horrible. GF has 8 year olds doing designs now?

Legendary Pokemon have looked like ass since Gen 4 at least. But they probably sell a shitton of toys, so, the design philosophy lives on...

 

[Xist2inspire]

While I would've preferred cross-platform, at least this way the Switch will have at least one guaranteed system seller in the future. Mainline Zelda, Mario, and Pokémon in year 1 could be considered overkill, and leaves the question of what could possibly come next to keep Switch hype going. Personally, I'm bothered more by the names. Ultra Moon and Ultra Sun? Really? What is this, Street Fighter?

Since this seems like Black 2/White 2 all over again, I just hope we don't end up with another X/Y situation the Switch, because that Gen was a major letdown in my opinion.

 

[True Fire]

The background. That's an Eclipse.

Or a black hole.

 

[Brofield]

I'm not sure if this was addressed by anyone but at 3:15 mark of the trailer the footage of ultra sun/ultra moon seems just to good for 3ds...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue-CBOrLnb0&t=6s

I agree. The obvious aliasing in every other clip besides this one is too offputting not to notice. Something is up regardless of what they're announcing.

 

[Dryk]

Logos are Eclipses. Necrozma forming an armor on sun/moon (legendary pokemon) = eclipse.

Pokemon Solar Eclipse and Pokemon Luna Eclipse would have been great titles

 

[KingBroly]

What a kick in the teeth

 

[Brawly Likes to Brawl]

Knew it was gonna be a repeat of Gen 5.

Anyways, I'm glad they got rid of that stupid hat the female PC wore in SM. Made her look like she worked at a KFC knockoff.

 

[WrenchNinja]

Need a wall of shame

 

[Karspankey]

what if that was the only thing different in the game




can you imagine

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

Ultra won't be buying it. Sun and Moon were stretching the sinfully ugly X and Y to the extreme, without even 3D.

 

[Scrawnton]

I think the Switch will sell great this fall regardless of Pokemon being on it. Nintendo will sell as many Switch's as they can make.

That's not better than keep the desire of the product at really high leavers going into 2018. You have to admit that Pokémon US/UM on Switch this fall would make the system a much much more desirable product. Without them it's lineup feels lacking in a big way.

Nintendo should be making the Switch as desirable as possible despite hardware shortages. They're hurting themselves and we all know it. There's no excuse to not have these games on Switch.

 

[takriel]

Those new forms look horrible. GF has 8 year olds doing designs now?

For a while now, actually. Since Gen 5 I'd say.

 

[Anth0ny]

If it is minor rework of previous Sun/Moon, it wouldn't be worth the effort.

Switch likely needs to wait for next major "series".

They literally just announced a minor rework of Pokken for the switch

 

[13ruce]

Lol cmon now gamefreak even fucking us ingame?

 

[HawthorneKitty]

The irony in that is by doing it this way they're hurting the sales potential of the Switch this holiday. What parents are gonna pick up a Switch for their kids on Black Friday when a brand new Pokémon game is out for a cheaper N2DS XL?

Nintendo has to realize that with their announcement today they are forcing the Switch and 3DS to compete with each other this holiday.

Uhhh I can't find a Switch, if it frees consoles so I can get one this holiday, yay.

 

[ffdgh]

Now that's just mean lol.

 

[Berordn]

I guess so. I was just thinking about how many plot threads in S/M seemed to be setting themselves up for a sequel so I was hoping for more of a continuation (a la B2/W2) rather than the alternate approach.

Considering how much they were playing on the alternate dimensions in Sun/Moon's postgame, I wouldn't be surprised if we go back to the original Alola at some point, either in the story or the endgame.

Alternatively, Necrozoma's prismatic something or other is causing the world to distort and we need to fix that.

 

[NoKisum]

Who was honestly asking for a Pokken port?

That was me. I, NoKisum, was literally the only person in the entire world who asked for a Switch port of Pokken, thereby cancelling Stars.

You're welcome.

 

[Linkstrikesback]

People are salty now, I can only dream what would happen if they announce a dual screen handheld successor to the 3ds.

 

[takriel]

Oh they knew there would be backlash. They were aware. Anticipating it. Feeding off of it.