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iPhone 8 should cost $1,500?

giga

Member
Honestly I cannot think of a mobile application that would levereage 25% of that. Maybe Google Earth 3D with GBs of data preloaded?

For me, it's RAW photo capture and editing. Photo libraries these days are already large, but imagine thousands of RAW photos that you'd have to load all at once. But it can also be as simple as faster boot and application launch times, especially if the app you're using has a lot of assets.
 

teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
For me, it's RAW photo capture and editing. But it can be also as simple as faster boot and application launch times, especially if the app you're using has a lot of assets.

Fair enough. I suppose also people with 50 apps open hammering swap space.
 

TheTurboFD

Member
Get you targeted as a mark for getting robbed...

Holy hell $1500...

Some of ya'll crazy ready to drop that much for a fucking phone


I would understand if it was elite top tier technology that's like 1-2 years from normalcy your buying into as a beta consumer, but for what it's offering, yeesh

Only to browse social media , take pics of food, and make phone calls lol
 

Guess Who

Banned
Relatedly: Gruber is fairly "socially left", but economically right and libertarian in ways that only turn me off from him more and more as time goes on.
 

SandTorso

Member
Wow. I still have my Oneplus 2 (which I dropped around $400 for?) and I've been happy with it outside of a few minor issues (Pokemon Go Plus has to have wifi scanning off to work. That's pretty much it). It would have to be one hell of a phone for me to consider dropping that kind of cash. Like, it would have to be something completely crazy like the original iPhone and Android phones were when they came out. Even then, that costs more than renting my house.
 
I would pay 1500 for an iPhone I know couldn't be dinged or ft a broken screen easily. Otherwise, no.
It’ll probably have a sapphire screen, which is pretty much as scratch-resistant as you can feasibly get, let alone crack-proof. The only material tougher than Sapphire is Diamond. Apple wanted to do that for iPhone 7 but couldn’t get the kinks worked out in time.
 

Etzer

Member
I wouldn't pay $1000 for any phone. If the Note 8 is as expensive as rumors point to, I might just stick to cheap LG.
 

norm9

Member
I'm guessing it won't be $1500 outright. It'll probably work the same way other phones are subsitdized. You're paying it off monthly on your bill so it looks less. That's how people will be tricked.
 
It’ll probably have a sapphire screen, which is pretty much as scratch-resistant as you can feasibly get, let alone crack-proof. The only material tougher than Sapphire is Diamond. Apple wanted to do that for iPhone 7 but couldn’t get the kinks worked out in time.

They were also supposed to put long-distance wireless charging into this phone, but couldn’t get the kinks worked out.

They were also supposed to embed Touch ID into the screen for this phone, but couldn’t get the kinks worked out.

So far, it looks like its only significant changes are less bezel and an OLED screen.

I’d pay $1000 or more for that other cool stuff that won’t be there. As it’s looking, I’m prolly gonna skip this one.
 

ibrahima

Banned
Almost sounds more like the model for the Macbook Air than a Pro model.

"Pro" has arguably included features, performance or (to a lesser extent) connectivity that wasn't covered by consumer models.

The iPhone 8 sounds more like a moonshot, a "this is what all our phones will be like in the future" design. We saw this with the first few generations of the Macbook Air, it pushed a design that wasn't mainstream at the time but became commonplace as time went on for Apple's notebooks. It was also expensive as fuck and made compromises on certain features that people still expected at the time.

I can definitely see people buying a $1500 iPhone, I'm just glad I won't.
 
Just because you can't afford something or don't want to budget for it doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. A high end tier of phones is great if there is a market for it. It's existence doesn't exclude you from continuing to get $300 phones, it just lets the rest of us who care get nicer phones.
What's the production and distribution costs of these phones? At which point does it start being anti consumer or just playing at being trendy to own one? I'm not saying that consumers shouldn't spend their money how they want, I'm suggesting that the phones are potentially expensive for just being expensive.
If it's expensive, because small technology is expensive, why are costs increasing if phones are remaining the same size? The leap in technological advances aren't big or anything.
 
It'll probably have a sapphire screen, which is pretty much as scratch-resistant as you can feasibly get, let alone crack-proof. The only material tougher than Sapphire is Diamond. Apple wanted to do that for iPhone 7 but couldn't get the kinks worked out in time.

My coworker dropped his iphone 7 from waist high onto the pavement last week and the whole screen shattered.

So I'll believe it when I see it.

Luckily it only cost him like £50 to repair it from some random corner shop while we had lunch.
 

Jimrpg

Member
Sorry you all crazzzzzzy to spend that much on a phone. Think of all the things you can do with $1500. I mean the only reason you'd want all that power would be to play games anyway... I would not spend that much to play mobile games. You can get a top of the line xiaomi 6 for $300, you can get a huawei 10 with Leica dual camera for $500. You could do 90% of most daily functions easily with a redmi 4X for $99. I think we're at the point where a more powerful phone isn't going to make a whole lot of difference. The only reason I'd want to spend a bit more would be on the camera as my iPhone 6 camera is a little slow compared to all the new phones out there right now, but I wouldn't pay $1500 to get one, there's got to be better value options than that.
 

Guess Who

Banned
It’ll probably have a sapphire screen, which is pretty much as scratch-resistant as you can feasibly get, let alone crack-proof. The only material tougher than Sapphire is Diamond. Apple wanted to do that for iPhone 7 but couldn’t get the kinks worked out in time.

Sapphire glass is more scratch resistant but actually more shatter-prone.
 

Vuze

Member
My coworker dropped his iphone 7 from waist high onto the pavement last week and the whole screen shattered.

So I'll believe it when I see it.

Luckily it only cost him like £50 to repair it from some random corner shop while we had lunch.
Sapphire is very scratch-resistant but very brittle. Unless Apple got some magic cooking, it will shatter even easier than the current Ion-X/Gorilla Glass. It looks incredibly sexy and premium though if the Apple Watch Sport vs SS screens are anything to go by.
 

Juice

Member
I've been tweeting/calling the next iPhone the "iPhone Pro" for a few months now, once it became clear that there is _no earthly way_ Apple is going to get OLED to iPhone scale within a year, and as such should absolutely introduce an iPhone Pro line for people who want the best of the best without having to wait for 1MM per day scale to be possible.

If the iPhone 7+ is basically an $800-900 device, then I want the iPhone Pro to be ~$1300-1500, because I want to actually be able to buy one. If it's anything less, the thing will be impossible to find and cost me $2000 on eBay instead.
 

DECK'ARD

The Amiga Brotherhood
If the design ends up anywhere near as good as the iPhone 4 then dropping one is a shameful act and deserves punishment anyway.
 

Crayons

Banned
i hope it costs $1500 too because whether it's $900 or $1500 95% of apple's customers will still buy it. go ahead throw away your money so that everyone sees you have the latest iphone. enjoy the attention
 

Blackhead

Redarse
How good? NVMe in iOS devices hits 400/150 sequential read/write.

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This is good analysis/post. Maybe the iPhone j8sus features will be better implemented than the competition.

That's what I'm saying. We're literally talking about what an Apple pundit wants. And I did read his post. It's speculation.

Who gives a shit what Gruber wants? It's still all speculation without any basis, as was the case with the iPad. I don't really care about your semantics about should and might, but plenty of people back then also speculated about what the iPad *should* be priced at as well as what it might be. In the end, it's still speculation.

This is garbage analysis/posting. The OP is literally about what the pundit wants. If you don't care why are you in this thread. He isn't just speculating as you say, he is prescribing a solution for what he thinks Apple should do. That's an important difference because Apple has already set expectations to their customers for what an iPhone costs
 

Jeffrey

Member
Don't see the hate for the price. It's something that you have all day. Nothing wrong to spend that much if you can afford it. If it's worth that much is up to the individual.
 

Pagusas

Elden Member
Sorry you all crazzzzzzy to spend that much on a phone. Think of all the things you can do with $1500. I mean the only reason you'd want all that power would be to play games anyway... I would not spend that much to play mobile games. You can get a top of the line xiaomi 6 for $300, you can get a huawei 10 with Leica dual camera for $500. You could do 90% of most daily functions easily with a redmi 4X for $99. I think we're at the point where a more powerful phone isn't going to make a whole lot of difference. The only reason I'd want to spend a bit more would be on the camera as my iPhone 6 camera is a little slow compared to all the new phones out there right now, but I wouldn't pay $1500 to get one, there's got to be better value options than that.

Not everyone is in a situation where spending $1500 = can't spend $1500 on something else.
 
You don't have to buy a product, you know.

Exactly but regardless if it's a speculative price or not it's expensive. I've been stupid enough to upgrade each iPhone revision since the iPhone 4s. So many diminishing returns in innovation.
 
$1500 for a phone really isn't that much if you are paying $100 a month for your line anyways.

honestly don't see the logic in this statement. 1500 is still 1500. if 1500 isnt much to you, then give me 1500.

Don't see the hate for the price. It's something that you have all day. Nothing wrong to spend that much if you can afford it. If it's worth that much is up to the individual.

I know right, why not just bump it to $6,000. I mean, you use it more than a car. Might as well be as much as a cheap used car. Hell, in that regard, why not make it $150,000. You are with your phone more than you are in your home physically. Might as well cost as much as a small home.
 

KHlover

Banned
I already feel bad for paying $400 for a phone that only ever sees usage of youtube, firefox, whatsapp and discord. $1500 for a phone seems like madness to me, even if I were to use way more apps than those.
 
I wonder about unintended consequences when you price phones so high. iPhones have been a huge theft target, not sure now as much given you can remotely disable it.

But if some iPhone models start costing over $1500 there will be a huge incentive for thieves to actually physically disable and even murder owners, so they can't report them as stolen. Lord have mercy on the truck driving hauling a pallet of iPhone 8's, he better have armed guards and route security.

Beyond a certain point the showoff of wealth is really about showing things you can afford that others cannot, will iPhone 8's be a status symbol among drug dealers?
 

Bustanen

Member
I can't wait for Chinese phone manufacturers to steamroll the market. The likes of Xiaomi offer the ultimate bang for buck already but aren't sold outside Asia officially.

$1500 phone is a bad joke.
 

Pagusas

Elden Member
I can't wait for Chinese phone manufacturers to steamroll the market. The likes of Xiaomi offer the ultimate bang for buck already but aren't sold outside Asia officially.

$1500 phone is a bad joke.

That's not going to happen in America unless the Chinese companies actually learn how to market to Americans. A good start would be to have an actual company name Americans can pronounce and aren't turned off by.

And if features and tech specs sold phones alone, the iPhone wouldn't be as dominant as it is.
 
The phone will have Touch ID... Apple is not usually that inconsistent with it's design. They just added Touch ID to the MacBooks.
 

KillLaCam

Banned
I knew they'd overprice the Oled model lmao. No way would I pay almost double the price just for a better screen. (Oled is great though). Theres no way it could be $1500 i'd hope even Fanboys would know that was the biggest ripoff, even though I know they wouldn't care. It's not even about affording it I buy dumb stuff all of the time. But that price hike would be stupid.
 

reKon

Banned
I want to know wealthy the people are here who have no issue shelling out $1,000+ for an iPhone. There's no way the resale value stays that high for a device like that. It's so far out on price range wise and every year Android mid range phones become more premium while flagship see discounts more.

You can argue to me about OS and brand preferences all you want. You need really examine yourself if you're fighting to justify that ridiculous price. Especially at $1,500, you're not getting $1,500 of use out of that damn phone. You're doing the same shit that a person on $450 flashship would be doing. The older iPhones would be a better buy. Almost any other decent phone will. If it does it this price point, I hope we have a thread that exposes all the fanboys who eat this shit up so I can laugh at them. There's no justification. "Android as an OS and their phones are garbage" doesn't cut it here.
 

Juice

Member
I get that people in this thread might just hate capitalism (or their success at it), but this is the world we live in. If Apple can only manufacture 4M OLED iPhones per quarter, then they should be doing this calculus:

* how much would our 4M richest customers be willing to pay (maybe that's $1500)
* how much other stuff can we cram in if that's our price point
* retain 40% margins
* avoid a sellout that also obliterates 7s sales

They just work backwards from there.

I realize a lot of people get angry because they want to have the very best, but can't afford it and so they lash out or rationalize that the product isn't as good as people think it is. I follow the industry pretty closely, I am not a rube, and Apple's software ecosystem and my love for cutting edge hardware and industrial design means I'm squarely the target market for this thing, even at $1500.

Sorry?
 

Rahvar

Member
Let's put this in perspective. With the Swedish tax/convertion mark-up this would put the phone at the same price as the 55" LG oled tv I am looking at... No chance.
 

The Real Abed

Perma-Junior
Look at it this way. If it’s really high priced, some people will still get it. Us other people will still have the incremental 7S to hold us over and by next year the 8 technology will have hopefully come down in cost.
 
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