Who gives a shit what Gruber wants? It's still all speculation without any basis, as was the case with the iPad. I don't really care about your semantics about should and might, but plenty of people back then also speculated about what the iPad *should* be priced at as well as what it might be. In the end, it's still speculation.
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iPhone 8 should cost $1,500?
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This thread gives a shit because it's literally about one of his posts. Also if you read his article he does have a basis for his speculation.
Another thing. It's easy to compare devices based on spec lists but when you get to the reviews, the S8 was actually panned for its biometrics.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...-new-hardware-meets-old-software-habits/3/#h1
https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/18/15328968/samsung-galaxy-s8-review-s8-plus
https://www.engadget.com/2017/04/18/samsung-galaxy-s8-and-s8-plus-review/
That's what I'm saying. We're literally talking about what an Apple pundit wants. And I did read his post. It's speculation.
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
The idea of the plus camera, screen size, and battery life, in the form factor of the regular size, with a better display, has me very interested despite the price
Gruber is out of his melon for wishing the iPhone Pro/Edition/Deluxe/8 costs 1200$.
iPhone is already a premium product and people already do sacrifices to buy it at those stupid prices (even more stupid if you live elsewhere in the world where it costs much more than American prices) BECAUSE it's a premium product.
The moment the new "cooler" iPhone starts at that price you essentially downgrade the state of all the "normal" iPhone users as kind of second class citizens, this will happen regardless of the fact that the 7S will end up looking the same of the 7 (which is where he sees the risks of this strategy) or a brand new design... with removing the social status of having "the best phone on the planet" normal people will not make sacrifices anymore to buy it and won't end up even buying this supposed Pro version because in absolute terms regardless of what one is buying will cost too much money.
Gruber suggesting that this is needed because they want a lower volume platform to experiment with new technologies is to me a moot point because they already have one... they actually had one for 7 years, i'm talking about the iPad.
iPad to some degree had new tech first compared to the iPhone like some of the SoCs, true tone display, good antireflective coatings, small bezel displays and whatnot, it's the ideal platform to experiment with new technologies that might cost a bit more that in the future could trickle down to the iPhone platform.
The sad thing is that he's probably right and Apple will actually move this way with the >1000$ iPhone this year and i hope it won't work at all, they need to feel the heat from the competition and slash their insane margins.
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I already am plenty mad because in these last years the price of a flagship phone has gone from ~500 to ~800, if things continue this way this year's could probably be the last iPhone i buy for a few reasons:
1) i already can only afford to spend 800 for a phone once every 6-7 years (i am still with an iPhone 4S mind you) having to spend more just makes the product 100% unreachable for me
2) This year is probably the last time we will see an iPhone with LCDs and OLED is a technology that has too many flaws and is not meant to last more than 1-2 years before other problems pop up and for the foreseeable future there is nothing that seems to fix this situation so future iPhones will not be products for me fo wants to use a phone more than 1-2 years.
3) Cheap phones are getting good enough to do everything one can imagine, once Android becomes a good OS (who knows how much that will take) there will be no reason for everyone to spend more than 300$/ for a smartphone.
iPhone is already a premium product and people already do sacrifices to buy it at those stupid prices (even more stupid if you live elsewhere in the world where it costs much more than American prices) BECAUSE it's a premium product.
The moment the new "cooler" iPhone starts at that price you essentially downgrade the state of all the "normal" iPhone users as kind of second class citizens, this will happen regardless of the fact that the 7S will end up looking the same of the 7 (which is where he sees the risks of this strategy) or a brand new design... with removing the social status of having "the best phone on the planet" normal people will not make sacrifices anymore to buy it and won't end up even buying this supposed Pro version because in absolute terms regardless of what one is buying will cost too much money.
Gruber suggesting that this is needed because they want a lower volume platform to experiment with new technologies is to me a moot point because they already have one... they actually had one for 7 years, i'm talking about the iPad.
iPad to some degree had new tech first compared to the iPhone like some of the SoCs, true tone display, good antireflective coatings, small bezel displays and whatnot, it's the ideal platform to experiment with new technologies that might cost a bit more that in the future could trickle down to the iPhone platform.
The sad thing is that he's probably right and Apple will actually move this way with the >1000$ iPhone this year and i hope it won't work at all, they need to feel the heat from the competition and slash their insane margins.
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I already am plenty mad because in these last years the price of a flagship phone has gone from ~500 to ~800, if things continue this way this year's could probably be the last iPhone i buy for a few reasons:
1) i already can only afford to spend 800 for a phone once every 6-7 years (i am still with an iPhone 4S mind you) having to spend more just makes the product 100% unreachable for me
2) This year is probably the last time we will see an iPhone with LCDs and OLED is a technology that has too many flaws and is not meant to last more than 1-2 years before other problems pop up and for the foreseeable future there is nothing that seems to fix this situation so future iPhones will not be products for me fo wants to use a phone more than 1-2 years.
3) Cheap phones are getting good enough to do everything one can imagine, once Android becomes a good OS (who knows how much that will take) there will be no reason for everyone to spend more than 300$/ for a smartphone.
This speculation reminds me of the days preceding the iPad. Constant speculation over price, with many guessing something in the realm around $1000. Just silly season all around.
How good? NVMe in iOS devices hits 400/150 sequential read/write.
Good enough to keep up any real world data link to a phone or video playback and multiply it. That disk io you show is absurdly overkill and a waste of money. Like Pcs to check email with pcie ssds
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
Member
Not worth it at that price. You can get a Samsung And an laptop. Or a TV. Or a gaming pc.
FullMetalx117
Member
I use mine for a couple of hours everyday. Yes
That's fine. If you don't need it, then, by all means, save your money and get a device with expandable storage.
Jigolo
Member
Apples new phone won't come with a fingerprint sensor and we'll have to wait until next year when the tech becomes ready under the screen to have it. We'll have to be satisfied with facial recognition stuff for this year. It's an Apple move but the tech isn't there yet. So unfortunately the feature will be "stripped" from the new iphone.
As for costing >$1000 I doubt it personally but 2 more months and we'll know for sure
As for costing >$1000 I doubt it personally but 2 more months and we'll know for sure
Pagusas
Elden Member
Just because you can't afford something or don't want to budget for it doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. A high end tier of phones is great if there is a market for it. It's existence doesn't exclude you from continuing to get $300 phones, it just lets the rest of us who care get nicer phones.
Thaedolus
Gold Member
This is what it comes down to. For how much I use my phone, even incremental upgrades are huge.
King Gilga
Member
I didn't know apple fanboyism ran so deep on gaf, ya'll make console fanboys look reasonable.
That said, for most regular human beings, outside of maybe work computers, their phones are easily our most used things in our life.
So yeah, spending £1500 on something that vital and used that much in your everyday life is not a big deal.
That said, for most regular human beings, outside of maybe work computers, their phones are easily our most used things in our life.
So yeah, spending £1500 on something that vital and used that much in your everyday life is not a big deal.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Increasing prices by roughly double is a good way to tank your business because iphone does not provide enough of an upgrade over competing phones to make it worth it regardless of what feature they are planning. That's a thing you can do when you have a market monopoly.
Dreamwriter
Member
Adding higher-end options for much more money while maintaining cheaper options (as the rumor says this is doing), is a good business plan. Its not like they are dropping lower-end iPhone 8s, the rumor is they are going to be offering two tiers of phones, and then within each tier various options. There are also rumors that they are going to be upgrading iPhone 7s at the same time with some new features like wireless charging, so theyll also have that cheaper end available as well.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Lol, I wouldn't spend $400 on a phone. $1k is a damn joke.
I wouldn't spend $1,000 on an Android phone because I couldn't trust it to last that many years. If I buy a Nexus device or something with total stock android, it'll be feature anemic. If i buy a Samsung device, that thing will be done within two years, plus it's a TouchWiz device.
If i'm spending 1,000 on a phone. it better be something that lasts 5 years and doesn't get immediately usurped by next year's device.
If i'm spending 1,000 on a phone. it better be something that lasts 5 years and doesn't get immediately usurped by next year's device.
veryslowhand
Banned
1500 is my phone budget for next ten years.
AlexFlame116
Member
I'm not spending 1000+ dollars on any phone! I don't care who made it!
I also don't get the huge Apple love that some have here. Why spend 1500 on an iPhone but gawk at spending 1500 on an Android phone? Probably some divine reason that I'll never understand.
I also don't get the huge Apple love that some have here. Why spend 1500 on an iPhone but gawk at spending 1500 on an Android phone? Probably some divine reason that I'll never understand.
Rushersauce
Banned
LMAO.
It's even funnier seeing people agreeing with such an idiotic view.
Taco_Human
Member
Over 1000 dollars is too much for any phone.
At that point, buy a macbook or something jeez.
At that point, buy a macbook or something jeez.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
Apple has a history of creating demand around their products, regardless of features
They created a $10,000 smart watch and it sold out
Would I buy it? No.
Would it be crazy for Apple to make a $1500 phone and sell it? Nope
There is really nothing more to this other than curiosity around if Apple can create a higher premium line and have it sell.
They created a $10,000 smart watch and it sold out
Would I buy it? No.
Would it be crazy for Apple to make a $1500 phone and sell it? Nope
There is really nothing more to this other than curiosity around if Apple can create a higher premium line and have it sell.
I'm still waiting for the $400 Nexus line to come back.
Spending that much on something that can broken from a 2 foot drop is insane.
These are luxury accessory items totally detached from the value of their core functions, and I have little use to throw away money in that game.
Spending that much on something that can broken from a 2 foot drop is insane.
These are luxury accessory items totally detached from the value of their core functions, and I have little use to throw away money in that game.
Yautja_Warrior
Member
Crazy price, no phone should cost that much.
Von Krukru
Banned
1000+ for a phone? I don't live in the same world as you guys who have enough money for that. If I had 1000$ to spend, I'd just go on a trip somewhere with my 100$ budget phone.
Pagusas
Elden Member
Why not do both? Save up your money and go on nice trips with your $1000+ phone?
Phones already have OLED. It's nice but not omg essential. If they try to go 'pro' with Iphone then they're crazy. They already have insane margins and nothing in this rumoured new phone justifies a huge price bump. It's just a new design with new features like when they introduced 5, or 6.
Yeah its crazy lol
Exactly, why can't people just afford everything.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
If Google can double the price of their Nexus line with a name change, Apple can probably get away with a $1200-$1500 phone.
I don't know how successful the Pixel was for Google though.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Except it affects your market perception introduce a device nobody can afford that has similar options to the highest tier phones in your lowest tier. It isn't the same thing as introducing a luxury F-150.
I'd pay north of 1K for android device with the following specs:
Five year of os updates
G6 specs + V20 mics + IR blaster + S8 specs in an Xperia Compact or XZs body
Removable battery
Google's Dex equivalent
I don't mind paying it for a 1080p iphone 4.7 inch with wireless fast charging and iPhone 7+ camera.
The 256 GB iPhone 7 is damn close to $1000 unlocked on Apple right now.
Five year of os updates
G6 specs + V20 mics + IR blaster + S8 specs in an Xperia Compact or XZs body
Removable battery
Google's Dex equivalent
I don't mind paying it for a 1080p iphone 4.7 inch with wireless fast charging and iPhone 7+ camera.
The 256 GB iPhone 7 is damn close to $1000 unlocked on Apple right now.
-MD-
Member
No and no.
AfterTheFall
Member
I'm going to get one but obviously the pricing is a huge factor especially here in the U.K.
Dreamwriter
Member
Honestly I cannot think of a mobile application that would levereage 25% of that. Maybe Google Earth 3D with GBs of data preloaded?
Costa Kid
Member
They keep bumping the prices. The highest memory on the 4S jumped up an extra 100 when the 5 came out. Then it trickled upward from there every single iteration of the iPhone.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Get you targeted as a mark for getting robbed...
Holy hell $1500...
Some of ya'll crazy ready to drop that much for a fucking phone
I would understand if it was elite top tier technology that's like 1-2 years from normalcy your buying into as a beta consumer, but for what it's offering, yeesh
People not fully understanding their finance payments probably held Apple justify something like this. People only see $50 per month or an extra $5 and don't give a second thought to it
- if you're on apples upgrade program then you're still paying the full price for your phone. You throw away the money you paid for the last 12 months and start a new 20 month payment plan for the new phone. If you don't upgrade again you'll fully pay for your new phone over those 20 months
- if you're on a 2 year contract then most of that monthly bill is paying for the phone. You see your new contract only being a couple dollars a month more and think it is good value. But again you're completely paying for the phone over throws 2 years, plus your service plan on top. If you *didnt* upgrade and switched to sim only, you'd save hundreds over the 2 years in comparison.
Zantetsuken
Member
Can't see myself paying for any phone for that much, even if I could afford it.
Poverty is just a mindset!
