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[Justified]

*Article's title not mine, lol

Just a few months ago, they put a element on the border, they just clamp down on exporting oil to NK, now they are beefing up the border security some more.

More than likely this is to stop/turn around any refugees trying to escape the country when whatever is about to happen goes down/before winter

China's military has been increasing the strength and number of its forces along its 880-mile border with North Korea as Pyongyang's military provocations cause the US and its allies to think long and hard about military action against the rogue regime.

A report from The Wall Street Journal says that China has established a new border-defense brigade, implemented 24-hour video surveillance of the border, and constructed bunkers to protect from possible nuclear or chemical attacks.

China conducted a live-fire drill in June and July with helicopter gunships and armored infantry units, including a simulated battle with artillery, tanks, and helicopters, according to The Journal. The nature of these military exercises goes beyond securing a border, and they mimic fighting a nuclear-armed adversary.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/chinas-army-looks-getting-ready-175936611.html

 

[IsntChrisL]

I don't know why they might be worried about North Korea. Was it something Kim said?

 

[Nights Owl]

North Korea legit scares the beans out of me. They're bonkers enough to start a nuclear war. a;sldkfjdkc

 

[OriginalPoe]

North Korea legit scares the beans out of me. They're bonkers enough to start a nuclear war. a;sldkfjdkc

They would be absolutely demolished before you'd likely have any problem from the results unless you live in Seoul. Still sucks, but the reality is they are not going to be allowed to land a nuke.

 

[j0nnyboy]

I don't know why they might be worried about North Korea. Was it something Kim said?

Did you even read the post?

 

[lastplayed]

Just a few months ago, they put a element on the border

Hydrogen? Rutherfordium?

 

[Acorn]

China is in the difficult position of using NK as a helpful border blocker. I think they are reaching the end of their patience with NK for a while now. I wonder if they might prop up some challenger to keep NK and SK from unifying, if that ever comes to pass.

 

[Kazuo Hirai]

HAHAHA, Naive

 

[Justified]

Hydrogen? Rutherfordium?

Lol sorry sometime my military lingo still flare up in my day-to day speech.

Element as in a Military unit

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

For NK or as a RRF in case Trump goes fullstupid.

 

[The Argus]

North Korea scares me. I'm not worried about being personally hit by them, but if they do hit SK we're in for a complete different world. Outside of the obvious: innocent lives, we'll lose a tech powerhouse and tons of manufacturing. Tons of economies will crash, and we'll enter a new age of nuclear war. Domino effect.

Hydrogen? Rutherfordium?

Honda.

 

[ponpo]

North Korea scares me. I'm not worried about being personally hit by them, but if they do hit SK we're in for a complete different world. Outside of the obvious: innocent lives, we'll lose a tech powerhouse and tons of manufacturing. Tons of economies will crash, and we'll enter a new age of nuclear war. Domino effect.

A new age of nuclear war between who?

 

[lastplayed]

Lol sorry sometime my military lingo still flare up in my day-to day speech.

Element as in a Military unit

Huh, never heard that term before. Makes sense.

 

[shira]

I'll be worried when sk evacuates Seoul

 

[The Argus]

A new age of nuclear war between who?

Total armchair here, just my thoughts: If it's just NK, smaller states like Iran. If the US retaliates with a nuke, then it's suddenly fair game for everyone. Fallout will hit Russia and China, American fallout. It'll be a strange new world. I don't think we'll see retaliation from either side, but it sure will put nukes on everyone's mind again.

 

[Pilgrimzero]

Total armchair here, just my thoughts: If it's just NK, smaller states like Iran. If the US retaliates with a nuke, then it's suddenly fair game for everyone. Fallout will hit Russia and China, American fallout. It'll be a strange new world. I don't think we'll see retaliation from either side, but it sure will put nukes on everyone's mind again.

We wouldn't nuke them. We'd use some devastating stuff but we wouldn't nuke them.

 

[Steel]

We wouldn't nuke them. We'd use some devastating stuff but we wouldn't nuke them.

Who's finger is on the nuclear button right now?

 

[nephilimdj]

If you look at the NK border in google maps, esp Russia side, the towns there are like Gyspy villages in Borat.
Even the army base there looks like its from USSR, its all rusted.

 

[The Argus]

We wouldn't nuke them. We'd use some devastating stuff but we wouldn't nuke them.

The nuclear umbrella states that it's definitely an option. And:

Who's finger is on the nuclear button right now?

Equal or greater force. It's an extremely dangerous game, and as much shit we like to give NK leadership, they know this.

 

[McDougles]

The nuclear umbrella states that it's definitely an option. And:

Equal or greater force. It's an extremely dangerous game, and as much shit we like to give NK leadership, they know this.

Life isn't a video game. This isn't nearly how it would go down. Life isn't Homefront.

 

[bomma_man]

There's nothing to suggest North Korea is not a rational state actor - their actions are completely consistent with that - but that's not to say brinksmanship cannot go very very wrong, especially with the current White House, so I imagine China is just doing its due diligence.

 

[hoos30]

China is preparing for a US invasion of NK.

 

[Chaos2Frozen]

They are totally going to gun down any refugees coming to their border aren't they...

 

[Justified]

They are totally going to gun down any refugees coming to their border aren't they...

Yea, more that likely, except the one they can make into sex slaves : (

I should watch Crossing Heavens Border again, great documentary

 

[brian577]

China is preparing for a US invasion of NK.

Nobody is going to invade NK.

 

[SDCowboy]

We wouldn't nuke them. We'd use some devastating stuff but we wouldn't nuke them.

This. If NK launched anything at say, Seoul, after it were shot down (or the unfortunate, but unlikely event it wasn't), NK would likely be wiped off the planet mostly by MOABs and the like. Not nukes.

There would never be "nuclear war" with NK. It would be completely unneeded, and the fallout would affect SK, Japan and China.

 

[sant]

You people have no idea what you are talking about. Nukes are on the table if the pentagon thinks a nuclear strike on US/allied forces is imminent. The US does not have a no first use policy.

 

[Imperfected]

It's possible they're just shoring up their border to prevent a mass exodus in case of, say, a regime collapse brought on by outside agents, or the like.

 

[shockthrill]

can someone tell me why its impossible for a revolution to happen in North Korea the same way it happened in America and France?

 

[darkinstinct]

North Korea legit scares the beans out of me. They're bonkers enough to start a nuclear war. a;sldkfjdkc

I'm not so sure who is the biggest nutjob between Kim, Duterte and Trump. North Korea just wants to be left alone, that's why they need nuclear weapons. I'd be much more concerned about the nuclear weapons in Pakistan.

 

[SDCowboy]

Also I'd have to guess the US and China have at least a loose joint plan in place, in the extremely unlikely event NK ever finally pops off. Though, who knows.

 

[Woorloog]

can someone tell me why its impossible for a revolution to happen in North Korea the same way it happened in America and France?

Times have changed.
And the NK military has an iron grip on the country, the situation is unlike pre-US Amerika or monarchic France.

What might happen is a military coup. Maybe. At least it is the only form of revolution i can see in the NK happening. If one were to happen, it would be most likely backed by China, and would create a puppet-/buffer-state.

It's possible they're just shoring up their border to prevent a mass exodus in case of, say, a regime collapse brought on by outside agents, or the like.

Basically my thinking.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

Total armchair here, just my thoughts: If it's just NK, smaller states like Iran. If the US retaliates with a nuke, then it's suddenly fair game for everyone. Fallout will hit Russia and China, American fallout. It'll be a strange new world. I don't think we'll see retaliation from either side, but it sure will put nukes on everyone's mind again.

Nuclear fallout isn't really an issue with airburst nukes.

 

[TetraGenesis]

can someone tell me why its impossible for a revolution to happen in North Korea the same way it happened in America and France?

America and France weren't authoritarian dictatorships with modern military power (or in NK's case, semi-modern).

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

can someone tell me why its impossible for a revolution to happen in North Korea the same way it happened in America and France?

1) Military has total control on the populace
2) The country is literally starving on a yearly basis
3) Totally different circumstances in terms of how the country/government operates

 

[Sr Kitsune]

A new age of nuclear war between who?

I guess he means something like "normalizing" the use of nuclear weapons?

Like since I'm so far away from NK, and I'm not in America either. My only worry is how if NK used a nuke it would break the taboo of not using them.

 

[JettDash]

Americans are probably more scared of NK than South Koreans are. It is pretty pathetic.

Kim Jong Un wants to stay in power until he dies an old man like his father and grandfather, not commit suicide by nuking America.

 

[Justified]

can someone tell me why its impossible for a revolution to happen in North Korea the same way it happened in America and France?

What others have said, plus, a revolution will have to start from the grass roots, mostly in secret in planning.

N Koreans are extremely paranoid of each other, mostly because your neighbor will turn you in for favor from the government

 

[sant]

This. If NK launched anything at say, Seoul, after it were shot down (or the unfortunate, but unlikely event it wasn't), NK would likely be wiped off the planet mostly by MOABs and the like. Not nukes.

There would never be "nuclear war" with NK. It would be completely unneeded, and the fallout would affect SK, Japan and China.

That is just completely false. Nukes and nuclear bunker busters would be used in the event NK launches a nuke at allied forces. It doesn't even matter if the attack is successful or not.

Trump probably wouldn't glass cities but nukes would be used on military targets and nuclear bunker busters used at hardened facilities.

 

[Justified]

Americans are probably more scared of NK than South Koreans are. It is pretty pathetic.

Kim Jong Un wants to stay in power until he dies an old man like his father and grandfather, not commit suicide by nuking America.

I dont remember Dad and Granddad, killing family with Assassins, or trusted Generals with fake car crashes, and AA guns point blank

 

[Prophaniti]

Hydrogen? Rutherfordium?

He's in that one movie with DiCaprio right?

Are we actively disrupting NK? Cyber attacks and such? Seems like we would be able to attack enough utilities at once to cripple them.

 

[JettDash]

I dont remember Dad and Granddad, killing family with Assassins, or trusted Generals with fake car crashes, and AA guns point blank

That's because dad and granddad were firmly in power.

 

[SDCowboy]

Americans are probably more scared of NK than South Koreans are. It is pretty pathetic.

Kim Jong Un wants to stay in power until he dies an old man like his father and grandfather, not commit suicide by nuking America.

Dude, I've never heard the slightest bit of even concern about NK outside of NeoGaf. lol

 

[sant]

Americans are probably more scared of NK than South Koreans are. It is pretty pathetic.

Kim Jong Un wants to stay in power until he dies an old man like his father and grandfather, not commit suicide by nuking America.

The real scary thing is escalation between the US and the Chinese. The Chinese clearly have contingency plans to invade a buffer zone in the North. They do not want US forces on the Yalu River under any circumstance. I would also assume they have plans to seize nuclear facilities and seal off the border.

Nobody obviously wants war but both sides are clearly getting ready just in case.

 

[Laieon]

before you'd likely have any problem from the results unless you live in Seoul.

I do.

Spoiler

Well, the suburbs anyway.

Americans are probably more scared of NK than South Koreans are. It is pretty pathetic.

Kim Jong Un wants to stay in power until he dies an old man like his father and grandfather, not commit suicide by nuking America.

These past few months I've legitimately found that South Koreans are a lot more afraid of Trump doing something stupid than they are of Kim doing something stupid.

 

[Shauni]

North Korea scares me. I'm not worried about being personally hit by them, but if they do hit SK we're in for a complete different world. Outside of the obvious: innocent lives, we'll lose a tech powerhouse and tons of manufacturing. Tons of economies will crash, and we'll enter a new age of nuclear war. Domino effect.

Lol, bruh, a new age of nuclear war? Nuclear war is, by and large, the end of the world in the sense of human terms. When nukes start flying, there won't be anything left of us to be an 'age' of fucking anything lol

 

[sant]

Lol, bruh, a new age of nuclear war? Nuclear war is, by and large, the end of the world in the sense of human terms. When nukes start flying, there won't be anything left of us to be an 'age' of fucking anything lol

Not necessarily, no.

Limited nuclear exchanges are possible in many different scenarios and not all of them are world ending,

 

[Prophaniti]

Lol, bruh, a new age of nuclear war? Nuclear war is, by and large, the end of the world in the sense of human terms. When nukes start flying, there won't be anything left of us to be an 'age' of fucking anything lol

This is an exaggeration. Unless we are dropping the Russian planet crackers that explode the size of Texas we aren't going extinct over a few nukes. Most modern warheads don't even produce a great amount of radiation.

 

[shira]

That's because dad and granddad were firmly in power.

Jongun was Western educated, he knows the score

 

[Haly]

can someone tell me why its impossible for a revolution to happen in North Korea the same way it happened in America and France?

There's some interviews of escapees on Youtube that can give insight on why the situation is so different.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyqUw0WYwoc

Mostly, it's because the culture and education of the populace is completely stunted by the government and military. There is no capability to organize whatsoever, no means of rebelling even if they could organize, and no will to organize at all because they literally do not know that things could be different. It is 1984 come to life.