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[Inferno313]

I mean, the Rolfe thing was dumb because it was a professional critic going on a tirade about a movie without having seen it, based solely on trailers. That's a bad look for someone who presents themself as a critic.

InB4 "The guy who has a website cataloging his 300+ film reviews is NOT a critic!!!"

 

[Cow Mengde]

did not claim everyone who disliked it was a sexist monster.

Search for the thread where James Rolfe said he wouldn't review the movie. Even GAF was giving him shit. The guy was made into a scapegoat.

 

[Nekketsu Kõha]

I mean, the Rolfe thing was dumb because it was a professional critic going on a tirade about a movie without having seen it, based solely on trailers. That's a bad look for someone who presents themself as a critic.

InB4 "The guy who has a website cataloging his 300+ film reviews is NOT a critic!!!"

The reaction to AVGN is what was stupid as were all the accusations against the man.

Anyway love me another plinkett review. Some of the best reviews there are

Going to be sad when it is over because the wait for one is real.

 

[FusedAtoms]

That freaks and geeks statement totally came across as a joke to me 😂

 

[Spirit of Jazz]

I thought the review was mostly well done. Some specific points were a little off like Plinkett criticising them for trying to use death as a joke, but outside of that it did a good job hitting the main flaws of the movie like the product placement and improv focus. A small personal niggle is that as crude as it was I miss the whole Plinkett narrative in the reviews.

Personally some of the criticisms didn't matter to me like the dance and whilst I came out of the movie thinking it was pretty mediocre I thought it was on a similar level to Spy. However, people need to stop pretending sexism wasn't an issue on the internet. Not all the cynicism towards the film was sexist but there was still enough that was for it to be a concern.

Or it's probably because some people don't give enough of a shit to remember things about random posters on a dumb internet forum.

I know I don't even look at the names of the posters most of the time, it doesn't matter to me.

Then maybe they shouldn't talk to posters with a gendered pronoun?

 

[gutter_trash]

I mean, the Rolfe thing was dumb because it was a professional critic going on a tirade about a movie without having seen it, based solely on trailers. That's a bad look for someone who presents themself as a critic.

InB4 "The guy who has a website cataloging his 300+ film reviews is NOT a critic!!!"

Internet Youtubers are now considered "professional"?

Imagine a YouTube Sports League lol, would that be professional?

 

[Inferno313]

Internet Youtubers are now considered "professional"?

Imagine a YouTube Sports League lol, would that be professional?

I mean, Cinemassacre is his source of income, no? It's his profession.

Being self-employed doesn't make you not a professional.

 

[Agent Gibbs]

Having finally managed to watch the full thing (snippets on breaks at work), I had not noticed so many of the things he mentions like the product placement, I certainly wouldn't have thought "why isn't coca cola on those cups next to papa johns" and knowing why now its just awfully slimy! in fact the entire section on adds really pointed out how often they made logo's prominent in shot!

The Eldritch mansion scene with Holtzman having pringles, just being a joke about food and not product placement? I'd believe that if the corporate logo hadn't been orientated directly to the camera at all times, except when she is eating and says their buzz line.

Having not watched the deleted scenes/extras on my blueray, now knowing that they filmed every scene over extended periods specifically to create the scenes out of adlibs, explains a whole lot! it makes it seem like the plot of the film was an outline and the script would have been very light, considering it made it seem like the vast majority of scenes had adlibs to make up the bulk of them.

Which then makes me wonder about all those statements about having a good script, the right idea etc before production started? was that a lie and it was just a thin outline? or was there an original plot that could have been better than the end result? the actors just took over?

It looked like a circus, actors messing around, dancing about, constantly talking and the director taking the approach of record it all and then edit to a movie? I'm surprised it didn't end up with jump cuts like a youtube video?

I certainly think if the do, do another film they shouldn't bring Feig back, adlibs should be encouraged, but not at the expense of an original well written script and the intens bias in me would love an adaptation of the Ghostbusters 101 storyline merging the two universes, then the Dumpster fire can pick and choose characters/elements that work for the continuing expanded universe.....and maybe have it as an animated film

I think I appreciate the film even less now, its an amusing romp but it has many many flaws.

 

[Gulz1992]

Since Chris Hemsworth got so much praise in this movie, I have to ask, what did people find so funny about him? I only saw this film once and remember him ranging from dull to insufferable. His character was a complete and total idiot, utterly incompetent at anything, and he was lazy as well. He basically played a typical Danny McBride character, so what did people find so funny about him?

 

[The Elite]

I really enjoyed the movie but I will probably check out this review anyway.

My only problem is that they didn't tie it into the main continuity. But that's because I love continuity porn.

 

[Inferno313]

I really enjoyed the movie but I will probably check out this review anyway.

My only problem is that they didn't tie it into the main continuity. But that's because I love continuity porn.

Yeah, I liked this movie too. Not anything to write home about, but it was totally a solid above-average action-comedy.

 

[SolidSnakex]

I mean, the Rolfe thing was dumb because it was a professional critic going on a tirade about a movie without having seen it, based solely on trailers. That's a bad look for someone who presents themself as a critic.

InB4 "The guy who has a website cataloging his 300+ film reviews is NOT a critic!!!"

How was what James did a tirade? He sat down and calmly described why he wouldn't be reviewing the movie. There was no real anger in it at all. It pretty much amounted to him say "I care about this franchise a lot and this movie looks pretty bad, so I won't be watching it". He didn't even encourage his viewers to not watch it. It was just his personal view on it since it's well known how he feels about the series.

 

[Discotheque]

Since Chris Hemsworth got so much praise in this movie, I have to ask, what did people find so funny about him? I only saw this film once and remember him ranging from dull to insufferable. His character was a complete and total idiot, utterly incompetent at anything, and he was lazy as well. He basically played a typical Danny McBride character, so what did people find so funny about him?

not fair comparing this middle of the mall comedy performance to Danny McBride dude. that guy is so good in Eastbound and Down and Vice Principals.

 

[Big One]

People were mad because he refused to pay to watch a remake he had zero interest in.

Its just...huh?

You and in context of things, remember that James Rolfe for years has always touted his love for Ghostbusters in his videos. So if he DIDN'T review the movie, fans would constantly be pestering him if he didn't put out that video. The point of the video was to tell his fans he wasn't going to watch it.

 

[plasmawave]

I mean, the Rolfe thing was dumb because it was a professional critic going on a tirade about a movie without having seen it, based solely on trailers. That's a bad look for someone who presents themself as a critic.

InB4 "The guy who has a website cataloging his 300+ film reviews is NOT a critic!!!"

You realize most of those reviews are old horror movies he did during the Halloween season, right?

 

[Sanjuro]

Since Chris Hemsworth got so much praise in this movie, I have to ask, what did people find so funny about him? I only saw this film once and remember him ranging from dull to insufferable. His character was a complete and total idiot, utterly incompetent at anything, and he was lazy as well. He basically played a typical Danny McBride character, so what did people find so funny about him?

You think Chris Hemsworth acted like Kenny Powers in this film?

 

[mxgt]

Hemsworth's character is insulting when you compare him to Janine from the original.

 

[Revolutionary]

I mean, the Rolfe thing was dumb because it was a professional critic going on a tirade about a movie without having seen it, based solely on trailers. That's a bad look for someone who presents themself as a critic.

InB4 "The guy who has a website cataloging his 300+ film reviews is NOT a critic!!!"

I don't think you understand the meaning of the word tirade.

Edit: damn it, I need to remember to refresh the page before posting because someone beat me to it

 

[firehawk12]

I mean, the Rolfe thing was dumb because it was a professional critic going on a tirade about a movie without having seen it, based solely on trailers. That's a bad look for someone who presents themself as a critic.

InB4 "The guy who has a website cataloging his 300+ film reviews is NOT a critic!!!"

I don't get why this keeps being brought up. Rolfe is a weird Ghostbusters fan who goes to NYC to film himself standing in front of Ghostbusters locations. Fans expected him to review the movie and for him, it made sense to explain why he wouldn't bother.

People keep making it out like he made some kind of anti-feminist Alex Jones-style rant video or something.

 

[eot]

Is this better than the TFA review? I couldn't get through half of that thing

 

[Azoor]

Hemsworth's character is insulting when you compare him to Janine from the original.

Janine was arguably one the smartest people in that movie, she had a strong personality and took shit from no one. Contrasting her with that Loony Tunes character is pathetic.

 

[BassForever]

Is this better than the TFA review? I couldn't get through half of that thing

Much better, review is almost entirely focused on showing how the remake is bad and no focus on fan conspiracies or any of the interner circus drama from pre launch.

 

[phanphare]

Is this better than the TFA review? I couldn't get through half of that thing

absolutely yes

 

[Agent Gibbs]

Hemsworth's character is insulting when you compare him to Janine from the original.

Yeah, gotta agree with that! at first I thought Kevin was amusing, but it got old fast on my first viewing, when I look back now its actually ridiculous that the man is alive he was so dumb let alone hired for being eye candy at a ghost busters.

I think the other issue is this movie at times pandered to childish humour like it was a kids film, but at other times made blatant (crude) adult jokes, it wouldn't be so bad if they were less plentiful and added something.
I'm not even sure now who the film was aimed at? kids? adults? fans? That examination really highlighted how all over the place it was

 

[groansey]

This was much better analysis than I expected.

The line about Patty being Louis made me lol.

I feel bad for going in so hard on the RLM guys when this was announced now.

 

[Eidan]

Is this better than the TFA review? I couldn't get through half of that thing

It's much better. The TFA review really feels like an anomaly.

 

[BassForever]

The original ghostbusters also had a mix of jokes for all ages, crude jokes for adults, and smart jokes for adults.

 

[The Elite]

I assume Rogue One will be next.

 

[The Scollard]

I mean, the Rolfe thing was dumb because it was a professional critic going on a tirade about a movie without having seen it, based solely on trailers. That's a bad look for someone who presents themself as a critic.

InB4 "The guy who has a website cataloging his 300+ film reviews is NOT a critic!!!"

Rolfe also doesn't usually review more modern movies, so he didn't have any obligation to see it anyways. He usually sticks to old stuff.

Another thing certain people choose to ignore was that he was in the middle of a Ghostbusters franchise retrospective when he made that video, talking about the different parts, and the production of the unmade Ghostbusters 3.

 

[LakeEarth]

I don't get why this keeps being brought up. Rolfe is a weird Ghostbusters fan who goes to NYC to film himself standing in front of Ghostbusters locations. Fans expected him to review the movie and for him, it made sense to explain why he wouldn't bother.

People keep making it out like he made some kind of anti-feminist Alex Jones-style rant video or something.

That's the other thing, the video wasn't even supposed to be a "fuck you new Ghostbusters!" thing, it was directed specifically to his fanbase.

 

[SpaceWolf]

I assume Rogue One will be next.

He's already done Rogue One, really.

 

[Agent Gibbs]

The original ghostbusters also had a mix of jokes for all ages, crude jokes for adults, and smart jokes for adults.

True but there is a difference between, jokes kids can 'get' and oh look the fat person fell over, this guy thinks a phone goes in a fish tank, fart joke.
Likewise between the pacing and placement of the adult jokes, compared to queff jokes, pushy jokes etc that come out of left field

Hmm I suppose I'm back to its badly written, adlibbed and paced
scratch my comment on tone, I've followed this through to being an element of Feig just lost control

 

[NotLiquid]

I assume Rogue One will be next.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJgfxlgUIZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9-vP7kJheI

 

[Gulz1992]

You think Chris Hemsworth acted like Kenny Powers in this film?

He think he acted more like McBride from This Is the End, the difference being that McBride was intentionally unlikable.

 

[SillyEskimo]

I thought this was a really good deconstruction of the 2017 Ghostbusters movie. I'm hard pressed to immediately point out any flaws in the criticisms raised in the review.

It really makes me want to watch the original again. Lightning in a bottle.

 

[BattleMonkey]

I mean, Cinemassacre is his source of income, no? It's his profession.

Being self-employed doesn't make you not a professional.

He didn't claim it was a review, and he makes it clear from the start of the video that he hasn't even seen the movie.

The anger at AVGN over it was so stupid.

 

[Spieler Eins]

It's much better. The TFA review really feels like an anomaly.

TFA was 'We're the Star Wars guys, gotta prepare our takedo - oh my gaaawd, the movie was good? Uhhh, have you heard about that ring theory!?!?'

 

[The Elite]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJgfxlgUIZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9-vP7kJheI

Thanks. Missed this.

 

[Afrocious]

LIGHTSABER

 

[Nekketsu Kõha]

People still claim all plinkett reviews are suppose to be takedowns and just shit on movies lol there are many of them that praise a movie from the start. They also frequently recommend movies in half in the bag.

The salt over this and AVGN is hilarious.

 

[BatDan]

I didn't bother to see the movie because I could tell this would be a giant pile of shit.
I knew a real Ghostbusters movie wouldn't work without Harold Ramis.

But WOW I did not realize how ANNOYING this movie is. It's the same shit they pull with terrible kids movies or shows, where they believe that kids will stop paying attention if there's silence (look up Lull Destruction).

A couple things he could have brought up though. Like the overinflated budget ($144 million for what's meant to be a comedy, not to mention Feig admitting that they need $500 million to break even... OOPS). Or the pathetic sequel hook.

Also, anyone still complaining about James Rolfe's video, has never actually seen it.

 

[Sanjuro]

He think he acted more like McBride from This Is the End, the difference being that McBride was intentionally unlikable.

I still don't see the parallel in any McBride role to be honest.

That being said, I thought Kevin was arguably the most enjoyable character in the film. I feel like most people are on either end of the spectrum in terms of that opinion.

 

[Cow Mengde]

Someone should send this review to Patton Oswald. As I recall, he acted like a huge douchebag towards James when he made his "no review" video.

 

[DrArchon]

That whole bit about not being able to show them drinking Coke while eating Papa John's blew my damn mind.

And fuck them for claiming that whole bit with the Pringles was just off the cuff/spur of the moment. When the logo is facing the camera constantly? Yeah right.

 

[Whompa02]

Started watching it after a long hiatus on Red Letter Media and just kinda got bored.

I mean, it's just a terrible movie that has a lot of structure and writing problems. I don't see the reason on going on for an hour about it.

 

[UncleSporky]

That whole bit about not being able to show them drinking Coke while eating Papa John's blew my damn mind.

And fuck them for claiming that whole bit with the Pringles was just off the cuff/spur of the moment. When the logo is facing the camera constantly? Yeah right.

Yeah, with their excuse being "no, no, we just wanted to have her eating something in that scene," I hear an implied "[didn't matter what she was eating, as long as we could collect some ad revenue from it]."

 

[Onlinehero]

I mean, it's just a terrible movie that has a lot of structure and writing problems. I don't see the reason on going on for an hour about it.

It feeds right into their base audience.

 

[mxgt]

That whole bit about not being able to show them drinking Coke while eating Papa John's blew my damn mind.

And fuck them for claiming that whole bit with the Pringles was just off the cuff/spur of the moment. When the logo is facing the camera constantly? Yeah right.

And the fact she says the catchphrase too.

It's laughable

 

[Astral Dog]

I was looking for another of his reviews to watch and only found Star Wars and Trek ones shame i wanted to watch another.

 

[Nekketsu Kõha]

It feeds right into their base audience.

People who love movies and great entertaining analyzes of them.