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Rumor: Joker origin movie will feature a young, bullied Joker with a permanent smile

zeemumu

Member
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It's super dark and cool and Joker is there and he's cool but dark too and everything is heavy and dark and really captures the zeitgeist and it's going to be all things to all people but also dark and real goddamnit and cool too. It's going to take place in the streets of Battle Creek Michigan in the shadow of Big Cereal and Joker has like an allergy to cereal or whatever and he gets picked on at school in a real way that will hit you in a dark place emotionally because it's holding up a mirror to the dark world we live in.

It's going to be Rated R because the world is Rated R and it's real like the world and it's totally divorced from the last shitty movie we made with Joker in it unless you liked that movie in which case it's building right atop that movie's foundation. We're gonna get some fuckin auteur to direct it. I don't know someone dark and cool who came from somewhere real.
 

theWB27

Member
Leto is the DCEU Joker, so same as the Harley Quinn Joker and all.

This one is a separate thing. It's unclear if Batman or other Gotham characters will show up, much less other DC characters.

Only two Jokers, although Lauren Cohan might be Flashpoint Joker. That's technically part of DCEU.

Amazing
 

Johndoey

Banned
At what point do you just say fuck it and roll with the idea of Joker as a demonic figure hanging around Gotham, because why not.
 

kswiston

Member
I bet one of the bullies will be a young Bruce Wayne.

Nah.

The film will end with Joker living as a homeless teen in crime alley. We'll see him hunched over on a wall, with the big grin and lifeless eyes. We'll then see a well dressed couple and their kid, who is dancing around pretending to be a sword fighter, go by. There will be a 30 second slow zoom on the Joker's face as we hear the footsteps recede, followed by two gunshots. Then the smile will finally reach the Joker's eyes.

Complex writing achieved. Queue Down with the Sickness and fade to black.
 

CHC

Member
I really, truly, honest-to-god have no horse in the DC-Marvel race or anything like that but..... DC has got to get their shit together here. Take a year off or whatever you need guys, but these ideas are, well, not good.
 

Johndoey

Banned
My real hope is all this shit being thrown out somehow leads to a Mister Miracle & Big Barda movie.
It's not an intelligent or realistic hope, but it's the one I have.
 
I really, truly, honest-to-god have no horse in the DC-Marvel race or anything like that but..... DC has got to get their shit together here. Take a year off or whatever you need guys, but these ideas are, well, not good.

I think most elseworlds stories sound odd in concept, but it comes down to execution. My concern here is director and writer not instilling much confidence that they could pull it off.

It's a shame this is the first elseworlds movie. Its success or failure likely influences future elseworlds movies.

Like, way back when Aronofsky's idea for a year one movie came out, people hated the direction as a mainline Batman movie. But that's the sort of project that works well under this initiative.
 

Demoskinos

Member
That description was all I needed to know they have no idea what they are doing with this character. A joker origin story *could* be cool. But this is... just not the way.
 

hobozero

Member
Pretty sure they already made that movie:

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Fun fact for the "Hey its that guy" actor thread. The Man Who Laughs was played by Conrad Veidt, Col Strausse in Casablanca.
 
I don't like this idea but since this is supposed to be an elseworld type story than I guess I can stomach it. I just want this movie be a well made Joker film.
 

grandjedi6

Master of the Google Search
The only good Joker backstory is the ones where he has no back story or one where it's all questionable & vague. The character functions best when he pops out of nowhere in response to Batman being Batman. Trying to give him a literal tragic backstory ruins the character.
 

kmfdmpig

Member
One of the worst parts of this is that they're putting a clear spotlight on the director by focusing on the word "auteur", which is ironic given that it's an existing property and was apparently developed by two people together. Do they really want to showcase the director when it's a scrub like Todd Phillips. Even if people still think Hangover is funny is it funny because of the direction or the screenplay he didn't write (sounds like a real auteur to me).
 
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