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so anything before the sexual relationship is okay? ok cool.
No it not okay, but she was not disturbed or put off by it. She even admits she had a sexual relationship with him later.
so anything before the sexual relationship is okay? ok cool.
That's your defense for that behavior? Men will be men?
It's not like Evilore regretted his actions, he doubled down on them in the forum. From his side this wasn't a drunken mistake, it was something positive, something he prided himself in.
That's something I like on reddit. Mods can toggle their mod color on when they say something in their position as mod and otherwise can just post as normal users. If something like that could be implemented that would be nice. That way they can still have their opinions and be taken accountable for their mod actions. That's the general thing. Make mods accountable.
Why not? A person with close to 0 posts might as well be a lurker. If you're not participating, why are you a member?So I wouldnt consider post count a fair way to judge members.
Jesus Christ how has this been twisted into sexual assault...
Do people need to manufacture things so they can rage more.
Please ban this account. I've taken care of what I need to here and don't want it hanging around and I'd rather not have to post porn to get my ban.
Later gaf.
There are some Gaffers that mostly lurked. I don't think it's right to dismiss people solely on their post counter.
Wanna play the internet rep game? Try my post counter.
He left the shower when asked. When did he sexually assault her against her will? Anyone with as lick of commonsense can see this is an overblown nonstory.
We're a message board in the end. Yet so many who never set foot here had something to say. Kept watching us.One of the things I have found interesting is the rise of posters on other sites discrediting gaf and its entire user base. It's a shame to see the reputation get eroded as Gaf was/ hopefully is a place where sexism/ racism/ discrimination is not acceptable. Making it a much much nicer community than many out there on the internet. It almost feels like it's being attacked by those with agenda's who want to make people with those values look bad.
Neogaf isn't a blog for one person, it's a community of thousands, hopefully the recent events don't make the internet in general a less tolerant place.
No it not okay, but she was not disturbed or put off by it. She even admits she had a sexual relationship with him later.
The moment you give into dissent any discussion becomes a cesspool. I do not care about the opinions of the alt-right or gamergaters and I'm hopeful that the majority of NeoGAF feels the same way.
But oftentimes... the disagreement to the consensus was racist, sexist, etc.
Whew. I'm just glad GAF is back.
Thanks to the staff.
No it not okay, but she was not disturbed or put off by it. She even admits she had a sexual relationship with him later.
All the more reason to make a statement quickly and take control of the situation before it got larger.
But that would have required some forward, critical thinking, and I think that a specific someone might not have the requirements for that.
Wienstine was harassing women who did not feel the same way. This is thing you people are failing to see in this case. She admits she liked him before the shower incident, and after was not disgusted he had exposed himself to her. She later jumped into bed with him and felt those parts he exposed to her ( this is the reality) and you people need to stop overreacting to things you read on the internet or hear from others
Oh, please, stop calling this childish thing a protest, you are devaluating the word everytime you do. Protesting because some private forum works in a way you dislike? No wonder the right is reigning free, when the self-called lefties behave like this.
o7Please ban this account. I've taken care of what I need to here and don't want it hanging around and I'd rather not have to post porn to get my ban.
Later gaf.
I mean, maybe? Does banner advertising actually make that much money anymore?Is being a mod on NeoGAF a paid job? I imagine it could be, I mean the site isn't hurting for money, is it?
If this is the case, you could hire someone to be a forum-police exclusively, and not participate in any of the conversations.
The reason why so many with small post counters post here is simple because many of those with big counters left for Reset or waiting out or are busy saving old posts and threads before it all comes down again. Not mention the amount of veterans who previously were culled for random stuff.Yes, I'm aware. My point was that the community is shifting now to be represented by those that had previously mostly lurked. People who talk about the "good ol' days" of NeoGAF before movements like GamerGate were shut down and removed. Those who came into this thread armed with talking points and phrases ripped straight from less reputable sites. They've always been GAF members, but are just now feeling emboldened now that EL's dirty laundry has been aired and given the seal of approval.
Hi.
An allegation of sexual misconduct has been made against me by an ex. It's not true, the individual making the accusation isn't credible, the story doesn't reconcile logically with the facts, and there's plenty of evidence and witnesses to corroborate that. It'll be a process.
All allegations of this nature are serious, of course. I first got word of it on Wednesday when a screenshot of a Facebook post was handed to Voat. I immediately talked with my mod team about the contents of the screenshot and clarified that it was baseless and explained some of the details concerning my former associations with her, and tried to ensure any concerns from the team were addressed fully and transparently to everyone's satisfaction. On Thursday I heard that she had deleted the accusation from Facebook, and wasn't entirely sure how to proceed from there or how this would all play out in the public space at that point. Then, Friday morning, the screenshot made its way to NeoGAF and chaos ensued.
I was in the process of writing a statement that entire day to address formally address the allegation, but the community had erupted in a flash that morning. While the moderation team was trying to restore the peace, accusations and threats concerning the screenshot started shifting to them as well by association with me, and I was asked by my team to do something to fix things and get the heat off of all of them at least. I was beyond exhausted by that point, though, stretched too thin in the time since the post had first appeared and seeing unprecedented events unfold on NeoGAF. I was slow and weak. I failed to handle it quickly enough and let the team down. Before I could finish a statement and get it out there, understandably some mods hit their emotional limit, expressed concerns about the community coming after them, and decided to leave. A few people resigned, and many more quickly followed for similar reasons, citing stress and harassment. The site started breaking under load spikes leading up to the first resignations, too, and then flatlined altogether, so issuing a statement at that time on NeoGAF itself became impossible for the time being, and my attention shifted toward the moderation team's future.
Since that whole mess, lasting from Friday morning through Saturday, before we formally went offline for maintenance and repair and restructure, we've just been trying to figure out the best course of action for NeoGAF going forward. And as stories began being published by various outlets, I issued some comments to the press, since everything coming out was proving to be sensationalized, opportunist, and unprofessional.
We've all become increasingly stressed and weary this year in ways even I'm not accustomed to by now, and discussions on heated news, political issues, and social issues on the off-topic side of the site have become areas no one has wanted to moderate in the open for fear of backlash or just general exposure to the inevitable toxicity. I've gone in there myself to take the heat, since it's very much my responsibility to do so before anyone else's, but there's been little headway, mostly just more anger and resentment and a lot of bans. I don't think this necessarily reflects on our community; more so the tone of the entire internet this year with regards to heated issues.
That's all going to inform the way forward for NeoGAF as we refocus on what the main goals are supposed to be for the site. The mod team will talk about more specifics on what that will entail below.
One last thing. The NeoGAF mod team is here for this community; all of you. You have no obligations to respect me or believe anything I say about my personal life one way or another, but if you're going to be here and participate on NeoGAF, respect the mod team by following the rules and behaving. The team is diminished at the moment and the folks who stuck around care very much about this community and its future. Be considerate of them. That's non-negotiable.
Thanks.
What's weird is there are a ton of people coming out of the woodwork that I don't recognize. I've been on GAF every day for like 5 years now, and I've never seen more people that I don't "recognize" than I do now.
Man those suicide threads are still coming in how out there, a mile a minute. Must be somebody's full time job right now to keep that stuff tidy. I know gaf hates the term "virtue signaling" and think it's solely an alt-right concept. But that concept does a pretty damn good job of describing what all those LOOK AT ME ban requests look like.
Fuck me, what a cop out.
In other words, you think it's true but you're going to ignore it? Therefore pretty much enabling such behaviour and giving it a free pass?
Thanks to the staff jumping ship and going to ResetEra to move the community into a positive place?
Yep, thanks staff!
I think there's no point in bringing back the OT when all that place was was ban central.
Enjoying the drama?
I mean, maybe? Does banner advertising actually make that much money anymore?
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You definitely wouldn't. You don't contribute shit.
No, because GAF has been my place for community discussion since 98. Evilore could've handled this situation with dignity and maybe made moves to move on, for the sake of the community.
Maybe, but I won't leave nor take the opportunity to seek attention.
I have already sent you a pmFeel free to come join resetera with the rest of the decent community.
Can pm you details if you want. Site going live in a day or so.
Feel free to come join resetera with the rest of the decent community.
Can pm you details if you want. Site going live in a day or so.
Ok Formula. Are you a bot? Because the responses you are giving to me, are barley responses to anything at all I am asking. It seems as if you are purposely ignoring reasonable requests or debate and instead are focused solely on attacking this woman.
You keep saying that she was ok with it, because she got into bed afterwards with him, while he was naked.
I want you provide citation and unless you don't this is all you will see in response from me from now on.
Understand that this is me trying to be polite right now. Because right now it looks like you have a vendetta against this woman.
No, because GAF has been my place for community discussion since 98. Evilore couldve handled this situation with dignity and maybe made moves to move on, for the sake of the community.
The moment you give into dissent any discussion becomes a cesspool. I do not care about the opinions of the alt-right or gamergaters and I'm hopeful that the majority of NeoGAF feels the same way.
The smartest thing to do would have probably been to hand the reigns to someone else, no? Like, step aside from all "day-to-day" operations and have someone else be the 'face' of gaf? Atleast in the interim while the allegations are worked through?
The moment you give into dissent any discussion becomes a cesspool. I do not care about the opinions of the alt-right or gamergaters and I'm hopeful that the majority of NeoGAF feels the same way.
Pm details to me as well please. I keep telling everyone to move over, but I have not the details.
I have already sent you a pm
What's weird is there are a ton of people coming out of the woodwork that I don't recognize. I've been on GAF every day for like 5 years now, and I've never seen more people that I don't "recognize" than I do now.
I don't about all of the crap being talked about here but Dennis needs to become a moderator for this place to be restored to it's proper order.
Please ban this account. I've taken care of what I need to here and don't want it hanging around and I'd rather not have to post porn to get my ban.
Later gaf.