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[assurdum]

It works the same on both ends, but more so with ps5 fans to be completely honest, especially after the TF confirmations.

Forgive me but more ps5 fans did this? You made a statistical forecast about it?

 

[assurdum]

Just like how you shift + tab to get steam interface, people know to hit Nvidia's overlay and include whatever filters they want.

"People". People can say a difference between 1800p and 4k. People all buy screen with Nvidia panel. Can I say those are not average people? Speaking for me, I'm quite a maniac of such stuff and if it wasn't for the videos analysis I wouldn't have bet Hitman 3 it was at lower resolution. It's not that easy without investigate. But it's quite easy now to say yeah it's clear as the daylight to spot it when a tech site already posted tech evidence about it.

 

[bender]

Finished Hitman 1. Retro levels sound seems bugged (music and other audio tends to cut away abruptly as you move past a certain distance from the source. Club 27 has a bunch of visual bugs:

 

[Snake29]

It works the same on both ends, but more so with ps5 fans to be completely honest, especially after the TF confirmations.

You think? Based on MS marketing around the XSX, those fans already claimed victory even before the consoles where released.

But it was a big slap in the face for those same people after release. The difference in marketing between the two companies was evident. Sony was a lot more professional, in comparison to Xbox marketing.

Have you forgotten all those arguments from xbox fans who kept shouting "let's wait for DF, they will going to show the difference".

Yes indeed we have seen how it went.

 

[quest]

Forgive me but more ps5 fans did this? You made a statistical forecast about it?

Considering the majority of Xbox only fans have been driven away. It is an easy conclusion to draw with the endless threads for every single analysis Sony won in is 200 page nasty affair of rubbing in people's faces like they won the super bowl after the first play of the game. Part of the reason this one is long some people eating crow on things like the tools meme or the series x was designed by the executives at Microsoft.

 

[quest]

You think? Based on MS marketing around the XSX, those fans already claimed victory even before the consoles where released.

But it was a big slap in the face for those same people after release. The difference in marketing between the two companies was evident. Sony was a lot more professional, in comparison to Xbox marketing.

Have you forgotten all those arguments from xbox fans who kept shouting "let's wait for DF, they will going to show the difference".

Yes indeed we have seen how it went.

A lot more professional lmao we believe in genatations. Then hide cross generation games let the game media go on a witch hunt against Microsoft real professional lmao. Hiding cross generation versions of games until 5 minutes before pre orders lol yep real professional.

 

[assurdum]

A lot more professional lmao we believe in genatations. Then hide cross generation games let the game media go on a witch hunt on Microsoft real professional lmao. Hiding cross generation versions of games 5 minutes before pre orders lol yep real professional.

What is it unprofessional about it?

 

[assurdum]

Considering the majority of Xbox only fans have been driven away. It is an easy conclusion to draw with the endless threads for every single analysis Sony won in is 200 page nasty affair of rubbing in people's faces like they won the super bowl after the first play of the game. Part of the reason this one is long some people eating crow on things like the tools meme or the series x was designed by the executives at Microsoft.

Neogaf = world. Ok. From what I know most of the Sony fan can't care less if Xbox perform better. All the Xbox narrative is always built around to be better than the other one and the obsession they have to compare the Xbox with the playstation console is almost part of their marketing brand.

 

[Snake29]

A lot more professional lmao we believe in genatations. Then hide cross generation games let the game media go on a witch hunt on Microsoft real professional lmao. Hiding cross generation versions of games 5 minutes before pre orders lol yep real professional.

Those are really not the things i'm talking about. I'm talking about how they are (were) on twitter before release. They way their tweets looked was not really professional in a lot of ways.

We can also search for bullshit things Phil said over the year. He likes to spin a lot. Like sometimes they don't know what they actually want.

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

"People". People can say a difference between 1800p and 4k. People all buy screen with Nvidia panel. Can I say those are not average people? Speaking for me, I'm quite a maniac of such stuff and if it wasn't for the videos analysis I wouldn't have bet Hitman 3 it was at lower resolution. It's not that easy without investigate. But it's quite easy now to say yeah it's clear as the daylight to spot it when a tech site already posted tech evidence about it.

You don't need an Nvidia panel to bring up the overlay. Only an Nvidia GPU.

Forgive me but more ps5 fans did this? You made a statistical forecast about it?

Well there are more Sony fans than Xbox fans on NeoGAF, more Sony fans in the real world, etc, so it's not hard to come to an obvious conclusion. Someone would have to be blind to not see this....

You think? Based on MS marketing around the XSX, those fans already claimed victory even before the consoles where released.

But it was a big slap in the face for those same people after release. The difference in marketing between the two companies was evident. Sony was a lot more professional, in comparison to Xbox marketing.

Have you forgotten all those arguments from xbox fans who kept shouting "let's wait for DF, they will going to show the difference".

Yes indeed we have seen how it went.

Now that tools are being implemented, you are starting to see XSX pull away from ps5, and having superior performance. Slow and steady is already winning the race, and it's only a few months into next gen consoles. Imagine when all devs implement the GDK tools from here on out?

 

[assurdum]

You don't need an Nvidia panel to bring up the overlay. Only an Nvidia GPU.

Well there are more Sony fans than Xbox fans on NeoGAF, more Sony fans in the real world, etc, so it's not hard to come to an obvious conclusion. Someone would have to be blind to not see this....

Now that tools are being implemented, you are starting to see XSX pull away from ps5, and having superior performance. Slow and steady is already winning the race, and it's only a few months into next gen consoles. Imagine when all devs implement the GDK tools from here on out?

Oh God Lord. Why we need to say such absurdity? Have you a single evidence of what you are talking or you like just to feed the console war? Can you imagine if Hitman 3 is just a sporadic case which it will happens a times to times? And every time will happen people will start with the same loop narrative? Is it that necessary?

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

Oh God Lord. Why we need to say such absurdity? Have you a single evidence of what you are talking or you like just to feed the console war?

Go through my post history. I'm a PC guy, haven't owned a console besides nintendo switch, in over 10 years. The same way you are a Sony fan, you aren't allowing yourself to be non biased, as you are as biased as any other fanboy on this site. Me on the other hand, I have no race in this war, so I can see from a better perspective than you when it comes to these comparisons. Go into any comparison thread, and you'll see Sony fanboys claim victory and rub it in everyone's face. They even go after the PC guys, who have hardware that runs circles around the PS5, yet here we are... The Xbox guys never come after PC gamers, cause they know their place.

 

[assurdum]

Go through my post history. I'm a PC guy, haven't owned a console besides nintendo switch, in over 10 years. The same way you are a Sony fan, you aren't allowing yourself to be non biased, as you are as biased as any other fanboy on this site. Me on the other hand, I have no race in this war, so I can see from a better perspective than you when it comes to these comparisons. Go into any comparison thread, and you'll see Sony fanboys claim victory and rub it in everyone's face. They even go after the PC guys, who have hardware that runs circles around the PS5, yet here we are...

You aren't an Xbox fan but is not an excuse to post absurdity without tech evidence just basing in a single game. I don't bias you but it's what you are doing. And no you don't see the thing with a better perspective if it's what you get from such situation.

 

[DarkMage619]

Yes but only Sony fan said is a genius. To the other side seems he is a complete idiot unable to built an hardware to run around the 20% of less perfomance expected by the specs difference. This thing going on from the start of the PR MS marketing campaign and will never end.

Do you know where you are? The MAJORITY of the game fans here are rabid Sony loyalists. Many post Mark Cerny pics and gifs especially if it's to stick it to Xbox fans because of some other head to head match up. It is pure hyperbole to think that any PR from MS could counteract the love Sony fans have for PlayStation. There was a guy who regularly touted the XSX used server parts and that explained performance differences. Which is pretty funny when looking at this specific title but it is what it is. So clearly far more here think that the XSX was just tossed together. The words brute force vs elegant come to mind.

Besides the biggest issues with the PS5, (build quality and noise issues), and specific Sony policies (refunds and paid cloud saves) aren't even Mark Cerny's fault. The PS5 is a fine piece of tech and this game doesn't change that. Just enjoy it for what it is and ignore the Xbox. You might be happier.

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

You aren't an Xbox fan but you post absurdity without tech evidence based on a single game. I don't bias you it what you do

How am I am Xbox fan!? Lol, If anything, I'm a steam fan over everything. You are either projecting really hard at this point, or you just can't find a valid rebuttal to the discussion. Like I said, go through my post history, and you'll find all the answers you need.

 

[quest]

Those are really not the things i'm talking about. I'm talking about how they are (were) on twitter before release. They way their tweets looked was not really professional in a lot of ways.

We can also search for bullshit things Phil said over the year. He likes to spin a lot. Like sometimes they don't know what they actually want.

Well if the gaming media went on a 6 month witch hunt on Sony they wouldn't need to do that would they? Sony used a giant lie and deception to build huge negative pr on the competition for 6 months up to the launch. If the gaming media was making daily Sony bad videos and articles you think Microsoft would be trying so hard on Twitter. Sony just let's the gaming media do their work for them. If the roles were reversed I guarantee Sony would be on Twitter. Just like after the cerney presser every Sony developer was on Twitter saying good things about the ps5 because of the bad pr going around.

 

[assurdum]

How am I am Xbox fan!? Lol, If anything, I'm a steam fan over everything. You are either projecting really hard at this point, or you just can't find a valid rebuttal to the discussion. Like I said, go through my post history, and you'll find all the answers you need.

If you don't see the problem of your assumption it's your fault whatever is my post history.

 

[assurdum]

Do you know where you are? The MAJORITY of the game fans here are rabid Sony loyalists. Many post Mark Cerny pics and gifs especially if it's to stick it to Xbox fans because of some other head to head match up. It is pure hyperbole to think that any PR from MS could counteract the love Sony fans have for PlayStation. There was a guy who regularly touted the XSX used server parts and that explained performance differences. Which is pretty funny when looking at this specific title but it is what it is. So clearly far more here think that the XSX was just tossed together. The words brute force vs elegant come to mind.

Besides the biggest issues with the PS5, (build quality and noise issues), and specific Sony policies (refunds and paid cloud saves) aren't even Mark Cerny's fault. The PS5 is a fine piece of tech and this game doesn't change that. Just enjoy it for what it is and ignore the Xbox. You might be happier.

I don't follow you.

 

[assurdum]

Well if the gaming media went on a 6 month witch hunt on Sony they wouldn't need to do that would they? Sony used a giant lie and deception to build huge negative pr on the competition for 6 months up to the launch. If the gaming media was making daily Sony bad videos and articles you think Microsoft would be trying so hard on Twitter. Sony just let's the gaming media do their work for them. If the roles were reversed I guarantee Sony would be on Twitter. Just like after the cerney presser every Sony developer was on Twitter saying good things about the ps5 because of the bad pr going around.

What exactly are you trying to argue?

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

If you don't see the problem of your assumption it's your fault whatever is my post history.

How is my assumption wrong? You are a Sony fanboy. There are more Sony fanboys and warriors in existence in the world and on GAF. This is well known, and factual to be quite frank.

Prime example, go to the cyberpunk RTX 3090 performance thread which was created a few days before Cyberpunk released. Look at all the Sony warriors laughing at PC players, talking about how the ps5 can run the game better, and costs less than half the price of the GPU, etc. Why weren't there any Xbox players doing the same? Cerny gifs, cerny quotes, cerny pictures throughout the thread, mocking PC gamers, only to to have DF threads, gamers nexus, etc threads pop up the next couple of days to show ps5 bested by the 3060 ti. Those threads cause so many meltdowns with you guys, yet Xbox guys still didn't come in and intervene. Why do you think that is?

That's the only proof you need to see, unless you wanna check out every single comparison thread? You'll find the same there. But look man, you seem to be stuck in the fanboy ways, so no point in conversing anymore.

 

[Snake29]

You don't need an Nvidia panel to bring up the overlay. Only an Nvidia GPU.

Well there are more Sony fans than Xbox fans on NeoGAF, more Sony fans in the real world, etc, so it's not hard to come to an obvious conclusion. Someone would have to be blind to not see this....

Now that tools are being implemented, you are starting to see XSX pull away from ps5, and having superior performance. Slow and steady is already winning the race, and it's only a few months into next gen consoles. Imagine when all devs implement the GDK tools from here on out?

This shit is where i am talking about. This nonsense hyperbole what killed the marketing after release. So previous games where not created with any "tools"? Man you guys look like tools yourself.

Really like to believe everything and desperate. But your post indicates exactly what I am saying. You are looking for that win, and you are constantly working on it. So you are contradicting yourself.

Stop bullshitting yourself, or you like to be disappointed again maybe. How do you even know the GDK is easier to develop with? Do we even know if Hitman 3 is developed with this "magical" GDK?.....i don't think so, since Dirt devs already said they used the new dev tools.

"However, speaking to developers, the development environment they're dealing with...some people seem to be extremely happy with it, other people are having problems with it. Microsoft has moved away from what was previously the XDK, which was specific for Xbox, to the GDK, which is a more general development environment for PC, Xbox Series S/X, and Xbox One.

"The long-term win with the GDK is that you're going to be able to develop for and deploy for all of these different systems. But in the short-term, I have heard some developers having some problems with it, and whether all that is going to manifest in final games is the big question."

Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/7525...mes-for-devs-having-issues-on-xbox/index.html

MS Devtools where never better then PS own tools to begin with, so claiming the new GDK will be better then before is bullshit. Since Sony doesn't have to care a lot for other platforms, its way easier for them or others to develop for the console. DX12 remains an api with many problems and too much overhead.

Edit: ow and the performance is "shit", not superior.

Well if the gaming media went on a 6 month witch hunt on Sony they wouldn't need to do that would they? Sony used a giant lie and deception to build huge negative pr on the competition for 6 months up to the launch. If the gaming media was making daily Sony bad videos and articles you think Microsoft would be trying so hard on Twitter. Sony just let's the gaming media do their work for them. If the roles were reversed I guarantee Sony would be on Twitter. Just like after the cerney presser every Sony developer was on Twitter saying good things about the ps5 because of the bad pr going around.

Well, the PS5 so far delivered. All the xbox fanboys where wrong, That hurt them a lot.

 

[FrankWza]

Considering the majority of Xbox only fans have been driven away.

Is this what happened? Or was it loss after loss after months of telling everyone that the series x was 40% more powerful being too much to take? The narrative was, Sony would have their exclusives but, every multiplat will be better on x. That hasn’t happened and it won’t happen going forward. The fact is, x would have to win every single head to head from here on out to fulfill the amount of bs that was being spread before launch in November. It was such a gargantuan gut punch to lose those head to heads and realize that, not only can Sony more than hold their own in the head to heads, they could flat out outperform AND, still have exclusive after exclusive, month after month and year after year. No one was driven away, they ran away.

 

[quest]

Is this what happened? Or was it loss after loss after months of telling everyone that the series x was 40% more powerful being too much to take? The narrative was, Sony would have their exclusives but, every multiplat will be better on x. That hasn’t happened and it won’t happen going forward. The fact is, x would have to win every single head to head from here on out to fulfill the amount of bs that was being spread before launch in November. It was such a gargantuan gut punch to lose those head to heads and realize that, not only can Sony more than hold their own in the head to heads, they could flat out outperform AND, still have exclusive after exclusive, month after month and year after year. No one was driven away, they ran away.

It was the constant drive by trolling and shitting up every Xbox thread from August until launch. Most got frustrated and just quit posting. Most were gone before the comparison threads.

 

[RoboFu]

Is this what happened? Or was it loss after loss after months of telling everyone that the series x was 40% more powerful being too much to take? The narrative was, Sony would have their exclusives but, every multiplat will be better on x. That hasn’t happened and it won’t happen going forward. The fact is, x would have to win every single head to head from here on out to fulfill the amount of bs that was being spread before launch in November. It was such a gargantuan gut punch to lose those head to heads and realize that, not only can Sony more than hold their own in the head to heads, they could flat out outperform AND, still have exclusive after exclusive, month after month and year after year. No one was driven away, they ran away.

What do you mean that hasn’t happened? It just happened in this thread!

But yeah I get it. It wasn’t a run away lead like people thought. Which is good for gamers all around.

 

[Snake29]

It was the constant drive by trolling and shitting up every Xbox thread from August until launch. Most got frustrated and just quit posting. Most were gone before the comparison threads.

And who was wrong after release?

 

[Stuart360]

Is this what happened? Or was it loss after loss after months of telling everyone that the series x was 40% more powerful being too much to take? The narrative was, Sony would have their exclusives but, every multiplat will be better on x. That hasn’t happened and it won’t happen going forward. The fact is, x would have to win every single head to head from here on out to fulfill the amount of bs that was being spread before launch in November. It was such a gargantuan gut punch to lose those head to heads and realize that, not only can Sony more than hold their own in the head to heads, they could flat out outperform AND, still have exclusive after exclusive, month after month and year after year. No one was driven away, they ran away.

Yeah you may not want to go there, not with the way the forum became a ghost town for weeks after the Cerny presentation.

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

This shit is where i am talking about. This nonsense hyperbole what killed the marketing after release. So previous games where not created with any "tools"? Man you guys look like tools yourself.

Really like to believe everything and desperate. But your post indicates exactly what I am saying. You are looking for that win, and you are constantly working on it. So you are contradicting yourself.

Stop bullshitting yourself, or you like to be disappointed again maybe. How do you even know the GDK is easier to develop with? Do we even know if Hitman 3 is developed with this "magical" GDK?.....i don't think so, since Dirt devs already said they used the new dev tools.



MS Devtools where never better then PS own tools to begin with, so claiming the new GDK will be better then before is bullshit. Since Sony doesn't have to care a lot for other platforms, its way easier for them or others to develop for the console. DX12 remains an api with many problems and too much overhead.

Edit: ow and the performance is "shit", not superior.



Well, the PS5 so far delivered. All the xbox fanboys where wrong, That hurt them a lot.

You sound tilted to the point of projection. Get some help man. Anyone who can take a step back, will see that Xbox tools are starting to make traction. "I'm" not looking for a win, I could care less honestly, it's just something that only a blind person or fanboy could miss.

You can also check out my Xbox and PS profile to see my accounts have been dormant for years. (Exception being Xbox, as I play forza and a few other games from time to time, but on my PC or course). But haven't owned a console since 360 and ps3, so don't try that with me. Not sure why you guys try and label people who doubt share the herd mentality like yourself, Xbox fans.

 

[Redlight]

From what I know most of the Sony fan can't care less if Xbox perform better.

Oh God Lord. Why we need to say such absurdity? Have you a single evidence of what you are talking or you like just to feed the console war? Can you imagine if Hitman 3 is just a sporadic case which it will happens a times to times? And every time will happen people will start with the same loop narrative? Is it that necessary?

Awesome.

 

[Great Hair]

Is this what its come to?, no name Youtubers sat in front of their tv with a camera?.
I like the way he just happens to be 'testing' the one level where the XSX version drops, even though all 6 missions are available from the start.

I think you're being harsh, i mean he used the oh so professional metric of "it feels smoother", there's no denying that kind of in depth analysis.

Been searching pretty hard all this time for something and this is what you got? Lmao

Time to stop posting

Its sad and pathetic. If you think its bad now can you imagine what it will be like if Resident Evil 8 runs better on Xbox, and we've already seen on the only 4K mode that DMC5(RE Engine) ran better on the Xbox.

Spoiler

Bruh, c'mon. What are we doing here? I might as well start recording myself playing PS5 with my iPhone to become a "trusted source" like this random dude you found.

Random guy claims performance issues that literally no one else has mentioned in any analysis thus far. But he can FEEL it, brother! CAN YOU FEEL IT TOO!?!?!?!?!?

"Feel it, feel it!" - Marky Mark

Spoiler

 

[Shmunter]

PS5 framerate wins 10/10
Xbox resolution wins 1/10

Xbox wins the WAR

 

[CatLady]

Prime example, go to the cyberpunk RTX 3090 performance thread which was created a few days before Cyberpunk released. Look at all the Sony warriors laughing at PC players, talking about how the ps5 can run the game better, and costs less than half the price of the GPU, etc. Why weren't there any Xbox players doing the same? Cerny gifs, cerny quotes, cerny pictures throughout the thread, mocking PC gamers, only to to have DF threads, gamers nexus, etc threads pop up the next couple of days to show ps5 bested by the 3060 ti. Those threads cause so many meltdowns with you guys, yet Xbox guys still didn't come in and intervene. Why do you think that is?

Why? Because the majority of Xbox fans are not stupid and/or delusional. The Series X is an amazing piece of tech especially for the price, and it will perform better than lower-end PCs and probably in some cases equal to or maybe even better than mid-level PCs, but it's NEVER going to beat a top of the line PC.

When was the last time you saw an Xbox fanboy/girl claim the series X is RDNA 3 or that it's the equivalent or better than a RTX 3080/3090? NEVER, because we aren't stupid or delusional.

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

Why? Because the majority of Xbox fans are not stupid and/or delusional. The Series X is an amazing piece of tech especially for the price, and it will perform better than lower-end PCs and probably in some cases equal to or maybe even better than mid-level PCs, but it's NEVER going to beat a top of the line PC.

When was the last time you saw an Xbox fanboy/girl claim the series X is RDNA 3 or that it's the equivalent or better than a RTX 3080/3090? NEVER, because we aren't stupid or delusional.

That's why you guys (or in your case, girls) are so much easier to conversate and reason with. Y'all don't attack people, or raise pitchforks at others or DF, etc. Y'all understand technology more, and don't wish upon a star/worship a single person.

Again, I have no place in this war, but I do like to see progress on gaming as a whole, and I've had my bets on: a wider gpu is better than a faster ssd and gpu with less CU's. Overclocking RDNA2 doesn't provide much performance compared to having more CU's, which was obvious if you kept up with gpu's over the past decade.

 

[Aguero9320]

I think it’s because ‘Xbox gamers’ are more just ‘gamers’ with multiple systems whereas many Sony fans seem more likely to put all their eggs in one basket for some reason, then lose their fucking minds at the mere suggestion of their machine not being the best (which it clearly isn’t technically - it goes PC, then Series X, then PS5 IMO, but positions 2 and 3 are still to be decided).

I’m okay with that because I own all three, but can see why the thought of being so all in on number 3 is concerning lol.

 

[CatLady]

I think it’s because ‘Xbox gamers’ are more just ‘gamers’ with multiple systems whereas many Sony fans seem more likely to put all their eggs in one basket for some reason, then lose their fucking minds at the mere suggestion of their machine not being the best (which it clearly isn’t technically - it goes PC, then Series X, then PS5 IMO, but positions 2 and 3 are still to be decided).

I’m okay with that because I own all three, but can see why the thought of being so all in on number 3 is concerning lol.

There are actually a lot of PS fans that are "just gamers" that happen to prefer PlayStation but often have and enjoy other platforms too. You just aren't aware of them because they aren't out evangelizing and get drowned by the zealots that treat Sony like a religion.

I've seen more than one Sony fan say that they are big PlayStation fans but can't stand the Sony fanboys. It's not fair to paint all PlayStation gamers with the same brush.

 

[Aguero9320]

There are actually a lot of PS fans that are "just gamers" that happen to prefer PlayStation but often have and enjoy other platforms too. You just aren't aware of them because they aren't out evangelizing and get drowned by the zealots that treat Sony like a religion.

I've seen more than one Sony fan say that they are big PlayStation fans but can't stand the Sony fanboys. It's not fair to paint all PlayStation gamers with the same brush.

Yeah I know, wasn’t my intention - I did say ‘more likely’ not exclusively. To clarify, I was only talking of the wildly annoying fanboys. If not, I would be including myself, as I’ve owned every Sony console

 

[CatLady]

Yeah I know, wasn’t my intention - I did say ‘more likely’ not exclusively. To clarify, I was only talking of the wildly annoying fanboys. If not, I would be including myself, as I’ve owned every Sony console

Sorry if that came across like I was picking on you. Yours was a good post. I understood what people you were talking about, but thought others might not, so I just wanted to clarify that PlayStation gamers are not all raging Sony fanboys.

 

[Md Ray]

Finished Hitman 1. Retro levels sound seems bugged (music and other audio tends to cut away abruptly as you move past a certain distance from the source. Club 27 has a bunch of visual bugs:

Yes! I noticed this too (bugged sound) in the new HM3 levels, on PC.

 

[MonarchJT]

Neogaf = world. Ok. From what I know most of the Sony fan can't care less if Xbox perform better. All the Xbox narrative is always built around to be better than the other one and the obsession they have to compare the Xbox with the playstation console is almost part of their marketing brand.

good so relax xsx won perform better in this game you will be ok don't worry

 

[sinisterpanda]

Xbox drops to 50 just in one case and Sony fanboys are saying xbox runs at 4k@50 lol. Xbox giving %40 more pixels at locked 60 fps except the lavender encounter and that’s a win for Xbox. I have to say that I’m a playstation gamer before everyone attacks me.

 

[Shmunter]

Xbox drops to 50 just in one case and Sony fanboys are saying xbox runs at 4k@50 lol. Xbox giving %40 more pixels at locked 60 fps except the lavender encounter and that’s a win for Xbox. I have to say that I’m a playstation gamer before everyone attacks me.

As a gamer are you honestly advocating for native 4k over better performance?

Is this where we’ve come to after all this time? After all the conclusions from not just DF, but majority of interested parties of the diminishing benefits of 4k in the next gen.

I’m sorry, I cannot accept the narrative being driven that resolution is the defining factor of ‘better’ here. There is no way in hell Anyone should chose resolution over pristine performance, and those doing so are doing a disservice to all gamers.

Framerate > resolution all day, any day when it comes to such high density pixel counts. The lavender performance is simply not good enough on XsX and deserves to be lambasted, not the other way around.

I hope the devs aren’t taking this egregious feedback as some kind of reality.

 

[sinisterpanda]

As a gamer are you honestly advocating for native 4k over better performance?

Is this where we’ve come to after all this time? After all the conclusions from not just DF, but majority of interested parties of the diminishing benefits of 4k in the next gen.

I’m sorry, I cannot accept the narrative being driven that resolution is the defining factor of ‘better’ here. There is no way in hell Anyone should chose resolution over pristine performance, and those doing so are doing a disservice to all gamers.

Framerate > resolution all day, any day when it comes to such high density pixel counts. The lavender performance is simply not good enough on XsX and deserves to be lambasted, not the other way around.

I hope the devs aren’t taking this egregious feedback as some kind of reality.

I agree that framerate>resolution but framıerate is equal here except for that max.10 min gameplay. I would prefer play at 4k and 10 min fps drop rather than playing at 1800p and 10 minutes more locked 60 instead of 55. Choice is yours. If Xbox had run that game constant 55 then i would say ps5 is better.

 

[Zathalus]

As a gamer are you honestly advocating for native 4k over better performance?

Is this where we’ve come to after all this time? After all the conclusions from not just DF, but majority of interested parties of the diminishing benefits of 4k in the next gen.

I’m sorry, I cannot accept the narrative being driven that resolution is the defining factor of ‘better’ here. There is no way in hell Anyone should chose resolution over pristine performance, and those doing so are doing a disservice to all gamers.

Framerate > resolution all day, any day when it comes to such high density pixel counts. The lavender performance is simply not good enough on XsX and deserves to be lambasted, not the other way around.

I hope the devs aren’t taking this egregious feedback as some kind of reality.

Sure, if the drops are only in one section in one specific level then drops to the 50s is hardly breaking the game. If the drops to the 50s occurred often then I would have agreed to not push a native 4k image, but they don't.

 

[kikii]

37 pages of "cry me a river"

 

[EdGalTBR]

Xbox drops to 50 just in one case and Sony fanboys are saying xbox runs at 4k@50 lol. Xbox giving %40 more pixels at locked 60 fps except the lavender encounter and that’s a win for Xbox. I have to say that I’m a playstation gamer before everyone attacks me.

44% more pixels.

 

[Superayate]

As a gamer are you honestly advocating for native 4k over better performance?

Is this where we’ve come to after all this time? After all the conclusions from not just DF, but majority of interested parties of the diminishing benefits of 4k in the next gen.

I’m sorry, I cannot accept the narrative being driven that resolution is the defining factor of ‘better’ here. There is no way in hell Anyone should chose resolution over pristine performance, and those doing so are doing a disservice to all gamers.

Framerate > resolution all day, any day when it comes to such high density pixel counts. The lavender performance is simply not good enough on XsX and deserves to be lambasted, not the other way around.

I hope the devs aren’t taking this egregious feedback as some kind of reality.

To be honest, sometime I don't understand how you can conclude such thing. Honestly, when these drops that are just visible during one particular area in one level, I don't understand how you can really say that this small performance difference offers more interest than the increase in resolution which is here 100% of the time in this game...
So just a question now, with ACV, do you think now that XsX versions is more interesting than PS5 versions (with VG Tech stats that was showing XsX more stable at 60fps with patch 1.04) for example ?

 

[Shmunter]

To be honest, sometime I don't understand how you can conclude such thing. Honestly, when these drops that are just visible during one particular area in one level, I don't understand how you can really say that this small performance difference offers more interest than the increase in resolution which is here 100% of the time in this game...
So just a question now, with ACV, do you think now that XsX versions is more interesting than PS5 versions (with VG Tech stats that was showing XsX more stable at 60fps with patch 1.04) for example ?

My reasoning is plain. Any game dropping frames in favour of resolution is doing it wrong.

There is argument that an occasional blip can be looked past, but the lavender level is clearly putting excess stress on the GPU in a sustained fashion; not a blip. Were I to play the game, I would choose to compromise on resolution first and foremost as a net positive effect. That is all.

 

[MonarchJT]

As a gamer are you honestly advocating for native 4k over better performance?

Is this where we’ve come to after all this time? After all the conclusions from not just DF, but majority of interested parties of the diminishing benefits of 4k in the next gen.

I’m sorry, I cannot accept the narrative being driven that resolution is the defining factor of ‘better’ here. There is no way in hell Anyone should chose resolution over pristine performance, and those doing so are doing a disservice to all gamers.

Framerate > resolution all day, any day when it comes to such high density pixel counts. The lavender performance is simply not good enough on XsX and deserves to be lambasted, not the other way around.

I hope the devs aren’t taking this egregious feedback as some kind of reality.

yes when is 99% of the time locked 60fps ..it would be embarasingly stupid to cut 44% more pixels to win that 1% ......is so much stupid that just who aren't accepting that xsx running better ..can say it

 

[Loope]

As a gamer are you honestly advocating for native 4k over better performance?

Is this where we’ve come to after all this time? After all the conclusions from not just DF, but majority of interested parties of the diminishing benefits of 4k in the next gen.

I’m sorry, I cannot accept the narrative being driven that resolution is the defining factor of ‘better’ here. There is no way in hell Anyone should chose resolution over pristine performance, and those doing so are doing a disservice to all gamers.

Framerate > resolution all day, any day when it comes to such high density pixel counts. The lavender performance is simply not good enough on XsX and deserves to be lambasted, not the other way around.

I hope the devs aren’t taking this egregious feedback as some kind of reality.

If i had the time, i would go through many users post history here on threads about 30 fps vs 60 fps on the previous gen. I bet i would caught many with their asses showing off. Also, you're right that performance trumps resolution, but it happens on one level (at least going by this video) and not exactly across the board.

 

[93xfan]

XSX is a beast.

what’s his name is a genius!

 

[Concern]

44% more pixels and medium shadows.

FTFY