There's that, there's ShockingAlberto saying that he warned us, and there's the fact that Capcom will not have it playable on Wii U at E3. It's not making Wii U launch.
You didn't read my whole post, did you?
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There's that, there's ShockingAlberto saying that he warned us, and there's the fact that Capcom will not have it playable on Wii U at E3. It's not making Wii U launch.
You didn't read my whole post, did you?
R
Rösti
Unconfirmed Member
As mentioned in the starting post, Deep Silver is apparently hard at work developing several Wii U titles. While you can probably guess that many of these titles are ports, I noticed one thing about Techland (developer of Dead Island) from some kind of investment paper:
Source: http://araw.pl/artykuly_zalaczniki/ARAW CEBIT 2012.pdf
Since Ubisoft now owns the Call of Juarez trademark, it's not gonna be that. So either Dead Island, Naild, Xpand Rally (Xtreme) or some completely new IP, but I doubt it. Seeing as Dead Island has sold very well, they could simply pull out a pack featuring all of the DLC, add some basic function (maps for example) for the DRC and probably make some quick money. What the other titles from Deep Silver are I don't know, but now we have one developer narrowed down anyway.
Source: http://araw.pl/artykuly_zalaczniki/ARAW CEBIT 2012.pdf
Since Ubisoft now owns the Call of Juarez trademark, it's not gonna be that. So either Dead Island, Naild, Xpand Rally (Xtreme) or some completely new IP, but I doubt it. Seeing as Dead Island has sold very well, they could simply pull out a pack featuring all of the DLC, add some basic function (maps for example) for the DRC and probably make some quick money. What the other titles from Deep Silver are I don't know, but now we have one developer narrowed down anyway.
Out of order execution means a larger die, which makes the chip more expensive, and due to the extra heat produced the clock speeds will be lower than an equivalent in-order chip.
Not bad then. If they indeed are using this, I was afraid the downside implied harder programming or some basic design incompatibilities that hindered multiplatform development.
Then I guess Nintendo won't use it. Bigger/hotter is completely out of the question given their target size, wattage, price and design philosophy.
Shadow Hog
Member
I don't think they wait a year. I think Q1 or Q2 2013, Wii U gets a late port with some minor tweaks to use the subscreen like inventory, map, etc.
That way Capcom can still release the Gold edition later in the year and double dip on Wii U owners too!
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Fixed for realism.
Not Wii U related, but this should lift people's spirits.
https://twitter.com/#!/adultswim/status/202866436597743616
How did you know that Nintendo fans would be the ones to respond to this?!
I agree with you Tom. I think Nintendo will go for it with their launch. They have openly talked about how not having good exclusive games at the 3DS launch hurt them, and Miyamoto came out and owned the Vita for not having software, they won't then after all that expect CoD, and AC3 to carry a new Nintendo consoles launch. They have a head-start on building an install-base, they will try and take advantage of it with attractive first-party software, this launch is huge for them, and I think they know that.
Shadow Hog
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TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Bombs Away
AceBandage
Banned
Ouch. Sounds about right though. Best to keep expectations in-check.
If Nintendo devotes 40 minutes instead of 30 to the Wii U during the conference (with 20 going to 3DS), I'll be pleasantly surprised.
AceBandage
Banned
Space is the Place
Advanced Robotics
Broken Promises
Basically, a block of shows that ran on Cartoon Network for ages. Mostly anime stuff (DBZ, Gundam, Big O, Cowboy Bepop, ect). All wrapped in an amazing bubble of awesomeness hosted by Steve Blum.
Father_Brain
Banned
More like three months of waiting for launch details and additional announcements at the inevitable September events, then two more months until launch.
it was an afternoon block of action shows on cartoon network back in the 90s and early 00s. then it became a saturday-only block sometime mid last decade. then they stopped it.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Remember though, it doesn't end after the presentation, we get more information on many of the games through meetings and whatnot.
And of course the showfloor.
shadyspace
Banned
oh god I'm so glad I grew up in America.
True. I hope that Nintendo goes for another "knockout punch"-type move with the Miyamoto roundtable that evening, showing another huge game and releasing a trailer, just like they did with Brawl. Gotta hammer home the notion that this year is Nintendo's and Nintendo's alone.
True. I hope that Nintendo goes for another "knockout punch"-type move with the Miyamoto roundtable that evening, showing another huge game and releasing a trailer, just like they did with Brawl. Gotta hammer home the notion that this year is Nintendo's and Nintendo's alone.
It wouldn't surprise me if they host a second third party round table again, as well. Maybe with UBI again, or even EA or Activision.
I think it's be great if they did a true round table, with the heads of those publishers sitting down with Iwata or Reggie and talking about Wii U.
"..than an equivalent in-order chip."
Nintendo weren't choosing between a OoO ~3.2Ghz 3-core chip and an in-order ~3.2Ghz 3-core chip, the choice was between what they have now (the OoO chip) and some hypothetical in-order chip with more cores and a higher clock speed which would have fit the same price/wattage criteria. They went with the out of order chip because, like with most of Nintendo's hardware design, they favour efficient real-world performance over raw power.
It would be funny if Wii U becomes Caccpoms console of choice. As in, Wii U gets demos first, exclusive local online co op, and additional DLC characters that the PS3/360 versions of their games don't get.
Know ccapapacom, I could see it happening.
AceBandage
Banned
Which is exactly why playing the numbers game with the Wii U is kind of misleading.
The way Nintendo creates hardware is insanely efficient.
And the lower clock speed might help explain what's going on with those devs who told CVG that the CPU is weaker than Xenon. (Meaning that they may still be using code optimized for an in-order CPU.)
They're going to use it. The GC/Wii CPU is OoO, in fact. They're just going to use a much lower clockspeed than current consoles.
If it's not being worked on for launch, it's due to lack of resources. This means that it's unlikely that work will start on a Wii U version until the other versions go gold.
I love you.
True. I hope that Nintendo goes for another "knockout punch"-type move with the Miyamoto roundtable that evening, showing another huge game and releasing a trailer, just like they did with Brawl. Gotta hammer home the notion that this year is Nintendo's and Nintendo's alone.
Yeah I'm really interested to see how the distribute all the information. I really hope it's a hype fest as I tend to think Nintendo need it and are generally a little bit staid (Apart from Zelda of course). Get the big name partners, preferably individuals like Rein/Cliffy or Gabe etc out there. Show/talk about the big games and engines coming. Show us cool shit about their online approach etc. Skip the charts and bullshit. In fact I wish they'd skip the 3DS even
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Nintendo E3 2012 Conference |OT|: Wii would like to play... with U.
Not Wii U related, but this should lift people's spirits.
https://twitter.com/#!/adultswim/status/202866436597743616
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
FUCK E3, THIS IS THE MEGATON
Big mistake, imo. It's going to hurt them big time with getting next-gen games.
I swear, Nintendo is the only company that will spend more to get less every single time. They did it with Wii, and they're doing it with Wii U.
R
Rösti
Unconfirmed Member
Nintendo's E3 2006 media briefing saw 8.32 minutes of Nintendo DS footage/presentation. Nintendo's E3 2011 media briefing saw 30.99 minutes of Wii U footage/presentation, that's approximately 44.2 % of the briefing in comparison with approximately 87.3 % of Wii for 2006's presentation. Nintendo 3DS I believe could need a few big titles more publicly shown so I don't expect such a great portion of the media briefing this year for Wii U, but I think the focus on the new system will be great.
AceBandage
Banned
That's... the exact opposite of what Nintendo is and has always done.
They spend more and get more. However, what they get it usually different from the standard. It's not that it's weaker or slower, it's simply that it isn't the norm.
AceBandage
Banned
TheCongressman1
Member
Not Wii U related, but this should lift people's spirits.
https://twitter.com/#!/adultswim/status/202866436597743616
So, Adult Swim is going to be airing Toonami? Wow, I wonder what shows they'll have. Probably DBZ... I wish they would show DB instead.
Anyway, it's strange how unhyped I am considering how close it is. I think I've learned how to keep expectations low. Not to say I think this conference is going to suck, but I'm prepared for it, I think.
Yeah I'm really interested to see how the distribute all the information. I really hope it's a hype fest as I tend to think Nintendo need it and are generally a little bit staid (Apart from Zelda of course). Get the big name partners, preferably individuals like Rein/Cliffy or Gabe etc out there. Show/talk about the big games and engines coming. Show us cool shit about their online approach etc. Skip the charts and bullshit. In fact I wish they'd skip the 3DS even
I usually tend to think that Nintendo over-emphasizes its portables to the detriment of their home systems, but the 3DS might need a tiny bit of stage time, if only to announce a few major titles and/or features. Not much though - there'll be plenty of time for the press to spend on the show floor for 3DS reporting, as the 3D features would be better-demonstrated there in person anyway.
With the Wii U, I think Nintendo needs to throw everything they've got into that presentation and the ensuing smaller events throughout the week. Make it a relentless flow of information, news, game announcements, feature surprises, etc. Dump so much information on the press to the point where they have trouble keeping-up, to the point where many of them don't find-out about all of the news events until they return home. Overwhelm them, I say!
Hah! I try not to include "there will be news soon" posts in my news list. Otherwise, you-know-who would totally dominate my entries.
he actually does have the lion's share of my entries, but that's because he posts not only his own tidbits but also pertinent news found on the Internet
/whistle
"you-know-who"... wait... i've reached voldemort status now ?
hey, i never asked for that ! i'm a superhero, i'm the best bud of the Justice League
oh, new tidbit about the Wii U, specifically the units brought at E3 2011, in a moment.
Nothing groundbreaking, but still interesting
There's that, there's ShockingAlberto saying that he warned us, and there's the fact that Capcom will not have it playable on Wii U at E3. It's not making Wii U launch.
You didn't read my whole post, did you?
Hmm, didn't know about Alberto's comment.
My bad.
Good suggestions. I don't know which one to pick.
And who wants to bet that the conference will start with something Wii U related?
I'm thinking it will start similarly to their 2004 conference. They'll show a video package of hardcore games. That or something like 2006 with people playing on stage.
Edit: I still get chills down my spine watching this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pB647PE-80
I'm sure that Nintendo would have gotten more performance for Wii is they had used more modern tech instead of the GC's archaic tech. No way such old tech offered a good price-performance ratio.
And it doesn't matter. They're still putting themselves first and it's going to bite them in the ass. The CPU is what's going to cause Wii U to get very few next-gen ports.
maquiladora
Member
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toonami_(UK)
I loved Cartoon Network (UK/Europe version) back in the 90s growing up. Centurions, Space Ghost, Dexter's Laboratory, Jonny Quest.....
R
Rösti
Unconfirmed Member
I never had Cartoon Network, so I never watched any Toonami. What I did have however was Nickelodeon, I used to follow shows like Doug, Rocko's Modern Life and Rugrats to name a few. The fun thing was that the channel I had Nickelodeon on also featured The Playboy Channel starting 11 pm. So you could say I had some angry beavers on both channels. ¦¬°
Not Wii U related, but this should lift people's spirits.
https://twitter.com/#!/adultswim/status/202866436597743616
I hate to crush everyone's dreams, but... Toonami only really worked during the age of dial up Internet. Back when everyone was exposed to DBZ for the first time. Today, I just don't see much of a point. Any anime that Toonami airs could probably be found on DVD, for a fair price (vs. $30 DBZ tapes that contained 3 episodes a pop), dubbed and subbed.
The only positive that can come out of this is if they air One Piece and its popularity increases in the States.
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