SniperHunter
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Really? Cause their own Planetside 2 looks way better than Dust 514. Are you sure it was Sony who said that? If so wow....
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Theres no arrogance like Sony arrogance.
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Really? Cause their own Planetside 2 looks way better than Dust 514. Are you sure it was Sony who said that? If so wow....
ThusZarathustra
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This thread has not yet reached full salt-saturation point. Shit is going to be like the Dead Sea soon...
(1) Was there some sort of mentality of invulnerability or inevitable success permeating the company, or could there have been some PR doctrine requesting everyone simply come across as being as ridiculously, absurdly confident as possible?
First option. Just like Atari. Companies tend to get arrogant and it's very annoying. Sony is just unrivaled in this aspect, they'll be all smug and condescending even from 3rd place.
(2) Did comments like those listed above tarnish your opinion of the Sony brand in any way, or were you happy to dismiss them as eccentric ramblings of detached execs?
No, it just makes me chuckle when they fall on their face after saying absurd things. And I still like and buy their products, so yeah.
(3) What's the silliest/most ridiculous/your just-plain-favourite quote?
DS being for kids who like Pokémon, when official numbers show the DS user base being older than the PSP user base at least in Japan.
(4) Am I being unfair - is there a company in the industry that has provided more arrogant quotes than those above? (Examples please).
No, I don't believe there's one.
First option. Just like Atari. Companies tend to get arrogant and it's very annoying. Sony is just unrivaled in this aspect, they'll be all smug and condescending even from 3rd place.
(2) Did comments like those listed above tarnish your opinion of the Sony brand in any way, or were you happy to dismiss them as eccentric ramblings of detached execs?
No, it just makes me chuckle when they fall on their face after saying absurd things. And I still like and buy their products, so yeah.
(3) What's the silliest/most ridiculous/your just-plain-favourite quote?
DS being for kids who like Pokémon, when official numbers show the DS user base being older than the PSP user base at least in Japan.
(4) Am I being unfair - is there a company in the industry that has provided more arrogant quotes than those above? (Examples please).
No, I don't believe there's one.
chertipros
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I remember clocking in 9 extra hours at work and getting a second job just to buy a wii.
But hot damn. Was it worth it.
God I love this thread.
Herbspiceguy
Member
I never paid much attention to PR (smack)talk, but going through that list of quotes was great. Can't believe some of those are real. Some of the reactions in this thread is are icing on the cake.
The_Hitcher89
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There's a tiny number of possible responses, tbf to people calling this a shite thread
a) lol Sony
b) Sony are fine regardless
c) This is a pointless thread, waste of effort
d) Entitled to arrogance
e) lol butthurt Sony fans
f) lol insecure MS/Nintendo fans
a) lol Sony
b) Sony are fine regardless
c) This is a pointless thread, waste of effort
d) Entitled to arrogance
e) lol butthurt Sony fans
f) lol insecure MS/Nintendo fans
I remember during E3 2010 that I expressed a distaste for the arrogance showed. I told people that Microsoft (I'd never seen an E3 presser before 2010, so I had no idea what to expect) seemed genuinely excited about Kinect. Sony, on the other hand, with Kevin Butler and Jack Tretton's snide remarks about the competition, just seemed full of it.
Whenever I watch the big three on stage, I feel like Sony's got this "we're better than the competition" mentality, while Nintendo and Microsoft seem excited to be there and love talking about how great the stuff they have is.
I feel like this translates into their consumer base as well. I remember shopping for my first console, and when asking which one I should get, the Microsoft and Nintendo owners were like "well, I have this, and here's why I love it," but the Sony fan? One of them started off by calling me a "fucking piece of shit" and proceeded to tell me exactly why the other companies sucked. He wasn't the only one.
In general, it feels like Sony, both the company and its fans, have an arrogance that is just... not something I enjoy at all. Can't even have a discussion about why the Dualshock is ergonomically bad for the human hands without insults getting slung.
Whenever I watch the big three on stage, I feel like Sony's got this "we're better than the competition" mentality, while Nintendo and Microsoft seem excited to be there and love talking about how great the stuff they have is.
I feel like this translates into their consumer base as well. I remember shopping for my first console, and when asking which one I should get, the Microsoft and Nintendo owners were like "well, I have this, and here's why I love it," but the Sony fan? One of them started off by calling me a "fucking piece of shit" and proceeded to tell me exactly why the other companies sucked. He wasn't the only one.
In general, it feels like Sony, both the company and its fans, have an arrogance that is just... not something I enjoy at all. Can't even have a discussion about why the Dualshock is ergonomically bad for the human hands without insults getting slung.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
I guess it's an AAA project in terms of ambition, but other than that.. yeah, no.
Here's one:
Hiroshi Yamauchi said:
That's one of my favorites. I want to say this was said shortly after Nintendo lost both Final Fantasy 7 and Dragon Quest 7 to the Playstation.
Nothing wrong with quote threads.
thehypocrite
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Those quotes are pretty arrogant indeed.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Seriously?
Now it's just sad
The thread is now is complete troll fest
I love how the people that wants their lulz and using the comments quoted by Mama are now not even considered, using post comments now... wow
LOL
Wuthering_Heights
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Hmm.
They were also more expensive than the 360 and the two are nearly identical in terms of what they can do.
You random quoted a lot of people who just pointed out this thread being bad, nothing defensive or salty about that. Read better. Now you'll probably say I'm salty because dare I criticize what I find to be a bad thread. The ones who are taking this too seriously are people like you and the OP, there's nothing to discuss about stupid PR quotes, it's just the daily dose of hate most Gaffers need to vent their frustration, a typical day on NeoGAF.
I don't recall gamers complaining about the Wii's price back then. If anything, people complained about how they couldn't find any in stock at retailers.
What a blast from the past. Sony's arrogance was quite amusing and not just because they were funny, but how out of touch they were. I'd love for Sony to try to defend those comments now that we have a very clear picture of who was victorious and who wasn't and how Sony's plans have unfolded over the course of these 6 1/2 years... and there's still 4 to go!
What a blast from the past. Sony's arrogance was quite amusing and not just because they were funny, but how out of touch they were. I'd love for Sony to try to defend those comments now that we have a very clear picture of who was victorious and who wasn't and how Sony's plans have unfolded over the course of these 6 1/2 years... and there's still 4 to go!
blame space
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does anyone have the thread where some guy tried to prove that god must exist because of a gran turismo sunset or some shit? i've been looking forever for that thread.
Wuthering_Heights
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Damn, look at all that salt!
Man-is-Obsolete
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It's developed by CCP so maybe they said it? Otherwise Sony as the op shows, and like other companies do, likes to hype their exclusive products. not that there is anything wrong with that, but consider the source as they say.
Napalm_Frank
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What the fuck?
blitzcloud
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;D
Yeah, i exaggerated with the example to fit the madness of the thread.
No one can deny that wii was overpriced. So that quote may have been directed to the technology used for the launch price... hell, it only makes sense that was the reason since ps3 price was already unveiled at that point. So yeah... some of the quotes look dumb as they are taken out of their original context.
Hey, just like this:
Original context:
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/10/sony-australia-wii-a-bit-pricey/
Included a bigger hdd and a blu-ray player (that according to the internet, shouldnt have)
MisterAnderson
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ZombiePlatypus
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Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
That was largely due to the high cost of blu-ray diodes at the time IIRC (plus the cost of the Cell). Had Sony not decided to go for BD as their disc format the PS3 would most likely have been quite a bit cheaper. In hindsight it is definitely arguable whether it was a good idea or not for Sony to sacrifice console sales in order to boost the BD format.
If HW rumours are to be believed, 720 seems like it'll have superior specs.
metalslimer
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Oh man between this and the Kamiya thread I've been rolling on the floor. All the people asking for this topic to be closed and getting butthurt are funny as hell.
Well since the market decides the prices of things, I can certainly deny that.
Well since the market decides the prices of things, I can certainly deny that.
If it wasn't for the recession and people not being able to hold on to their second jobs, people would have been able to afford a PS3 by mid-2008. Truly an unfortunate turn of events for Ken.
SniperHunter
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I don't know...it looks pretty bad to be honest. It should have been a PS4 game since you need a lot of ram and horsepower for mmo FPS's. Planetside 2 on the other hand looks awesome! I hope it comes to PS4.
Boss Man
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This is a great post. Thank you so much.I remember during E3 2010 that I expressed a distaste for the arrogance showed. I told people that Microsoft (I'd never seen an E3 presser before 2010, so I had no idea what to expect) seemed genuinely excited about Kinect. Sony, on the other hand, with Kevin Butler and Jack Tretton's snide remarks about the competition, just seemed full of it.
Whenever I watch the big three on stage, I feel like Sony's got this "we're better than the competition" mentality, while Nintendo and Microsoft seem excited to be there and love talking about how great the stuff they have is.
I feel like this translates into their consumer base as well. I remember shopping for my first console, and when asking which one I should get, the Microsoft and Nintendo owners were like "well, I have this, and here's why I love it," but the Sony fan? One of them started off by calling me a "fucking piece of shit" and proceeded to tell me exactly why the other companies sucked. He wasn't the only one.
In general, it feels like Sony, both the company and its fans, have an arrogance that is just... not something I enjoy at all. Can't even have a discussion about why the Dualshock is ergonomically bad for the human hands without insults getting slung.
Gaz Pwnage
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Not sure if serious....? This reads like a GameFAQs post
Not sure why there ate so many upset defenders in here.
The OP doesn't suddenly make the PS3 a terrible console with no games that is no longer for sale.
The company's feeling won't be hurt by this thread either.
This thread was made this morning (AU Time), but I'm still going to go home tonight and play post patch MGS4.
What are you guys getting do upset about. Sony has been arrogant for yeeeeeaaarrrs. And?
The OP doesn't suddenly make the PS3 a terrible console with no games that is no longer for sale.
The company's feeling won't be hurt by this thread either.
This thread was made this morning (AU Time), but I'm still going to go home tonight and play post patch MGS4.
What are you guys getting do upset about. Sony has been arrogant for yeeeeeaaarrrs. And?
Wuthering_Heights
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Where have you been? It's been 'cry about Sony' week for awhile now. =P
Uno Venova
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put this in the list too.
OldJadedGamer
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There was also an interview with Jack Tretton saying that MS must be embarassed that the PS2 was outselling it at launch... then the PS3 launched and the PS2 was still outselling that as well and did outsell the PS3 for many months. Was an EGM interview I think.
So this is what gaf is turning into?
ZombiePlatypus
Member
It's neat to re-visit them in the context of how things have actually panned out. Also, they're kind of hilarious. And totally in a laugh at the person who said it way, as opposed to laughing with them.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
This reminds me of how arrogant Mike Tyson was before he got dismantled by Lennox Lewis.
butter_stick
Banned
You're masturbating to the prospect of people being shamed by an internet post too much. You need to stop.
metalslimer
Member
It's also apparently been white knight week. Reading some of the people in this thread you would think Sony was in almost as bad a position as RIM
Oh man next gen gaf is so fun
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Then MS and Nintendo haven't done anything disastrous... amirite?
old manatee
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Can we all de-escalate this console war, and maybe agree that Capcom was the most arrogant video game company this gen?
Clairvoyance
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It gets funnier when you realize that the butthurt people in the Kamiya thread are the same people crying in this one.
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