Isn't it funny how Sony made some great comfort updates to the original PSX controller with the dual analogue AND THEN CHANGED THEM BACK with the DualShock?
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SONY needs to change the controller for the PS4
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Isn't it funny how Sony made some great comfort updates to the original PSX controller with the dual analogue AND THEN CHANGED THEM BACK with the DualShock?
astroturfing
Member
it's all just subjective opinion.
i love the DS3, and can't stand the 360 controller. i have both and use both, and i just can't get used to the latter... trying to play Just Cause 2, The Witcher 2, Crysis etc just feels terrible. something is definitely wrong with the sticks, most certainly with the shoulder buttons and the d-pad is just there for the lulz i guess, it's so bad.
what matters is what you're used to. i'm so used to Sony's controller that i don't even realize it's in my hands anymore, it's like an extension of my body. anything else feels alien.
i love the DS3, and can't stand the 360 controller. i have both and use both, and i just can't get used to the latter... trying to play Just Cause 2, The Witcher 2, Crysis etc just feels terrible. something is definitely wrong with the sticks, most certainly with the shoulder buttons and the d-pad is just there for the lulz i guess, it's so bad.
what matters is what you're used to. i'm so used to Sony's controller that i don't even realize it's in my hands anymore, it's like an extension of my body. anything else feels alien.
EatinOlives
Member
Also, here's a protip for the gaming community. If you want a new Playstation controller so bad, maybe don't bitch so much when a new one is actually revealed. Backlash was the only reason they changed it back to the dualshock design.
CrunchyFrog
Member
Still don't know what you people are on about with the left stick placement, never had any issues with it, though I've never had an xbox (but I did play gamecube fpses pretty regularly on GC back in the day). I think it's fine as is, unless they wanna try to change the form factor to accommodate a screen.
Frack the 360 controller. I hate the analog stick locations.
The only thing I like about the 360 controller is the size. People say the triggers are better but I'm used to firing with the R1 not the R2/Trigger.
This is what sony needs.
Sony, if your reading this, buy/lease/steal this design from Logitech.
The only thing I like about the 360 controller is the size. People say the triggers are better but I'm used to firing with the R1 not the R2/Trigger.
This is what sony needs.
Sony, if your reading this, buy/lease/steal this design from Logitech.
Graphics Horse
Member
I want to know what DJmizuhara meant with "Oh PS4 controller is totally new and radical departure from the current SixAxis controller."
I don't listen to their RSG podcast but I assume nothing else has been said.
I don't listen to their RSG podcast but I assume nothing else has been said.
Indeed.
Captain Tuttle
Member
Do it Sony. The controller is a dinosaur.
This.
schwabdizzle
Banned
Buy one of these
T.M. MacReady
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Frack the 360 controller. I hate the analog stick locations.
The only thing I like about the 360 controller is the size. People say the triggers are better but I'm used to firing with the R1 not the R2/Trigger.
This is what sony needs.
Sony, if your reading this, buy/lease/steal this design from Logitech.
That logitech wireless PS2 controller was so great. Love that thing.
Dual analogue controllers as a whole should change. It just feels clunky, unintuitive, and archaic. The fact that games are still going to be designed around them next generation is terribly frustrating. I'm more of a PC gamer and before that I was gaming pretty hard on the Wii since launch, and it sucks that even Nintendo is caving and making a dual analogue controller.
I don't presume to know how it could really be fixed, but the way things are now is horrible.
I don't presume to know how it could really be fixed, but the way things are now is horrible.
Graphics Horse
Member
Buy one of these
Finally I can put two analogue sticks on the left side!
Buy one of these
The only bummer with that controller is the lack of sixaxis. Which isnt a big deal, but still.
Im thinking of getting one myself.
For the ps3 version you can switch the r1 and r2 buttons. Pretty cool imo.
plagiarize
Banned
'fine the way it is' is a very acceptable opinion.
'perfect the way it is' is just dribble.
not that the boomerang was any less flawed. it was just flawed in other ways. maybe someone next gen will put out a controller that doesn't have some blatantly obvious flaws. fingers crossed.
that Wii U Pro controller looked pretty good until i heard it didn't have analogue triggers. let's have some buttons with really short travels that aren't too hard to press for one. lets have concave sticks. lets keep the d-pad in line with the TV screen (not at an angle like it was on the boomerang). lets have sticks we can push down to click. lets have octagonal gates. where the analogue sticks go, will always be a debate, but mushy or squeaky buttons and convex analogue inputs et al are not good. measurably. in lab settings.
'perfect the way it is' is just dribble.
not that the boomerang was any less flawed. it was just flawed in other ways. maybe someone next gen will put out a controller that doesn't have some blatantly obvious flaws. fingers crossed.
that Wii U Pro controller looked pretty good until i heard it didn't have analogue triggers. let's have some buttons with really short travels that aren't too hard to press for one. lets have concave sticks. lets keep the d-pad in line with the TV screen (not at an angle like it was on the boomerang). lets have sticks we can push down to click. lets have octagonal gates. where the analogue sticks go, will always be a debate, but mushy or squeaky buttons and convex analogue inputs et al are not good. measurably. in lab settings.
The pad doesn't need that much of an overhaul. Can keep the current design, just fix those damn sensitive/floppy sticks. It doesn't take much, after replacing my sticks with ones from a 360 fps games are way more enjoyable to play now. Subtle movements and minute adjustments are so much easier now, especially when sniping or trying to to line up that shot as well as driving games. Shit, Gran Turismo is even enjoyable with the pad now I changed sticks.
My DS3 pad.
Pics of said fingers holding a Twinkie please.
My DS3 pad.
Pics of said fingers holding a Twinkie please.
i use this:
maybe make that part of the joystick.
everything else is fine
Makes a huge difference, even when playing a game that rarely uses the L2/R2 buttons. Fingers rest nicely on it.
Giant Panda
Member
They need to ditch the DualShock entirely if they want to succeed next-gen.
Dlacy13g
Member
The DS controller is fine the way it is... except the stick placement....and the triggers (or in reality lack of) .... and its ridiculous tiny size.
Scratch that, sh*t can the DS and make something better Sony, its the one major thing that keeps me from enjoying games on my PS3.
Scratch that, sh*t can the DS and make something better Sony, its the one major thing that keeps me from enjoying games on my PS3.
The Mana Legend
Banned
The DS3 has a garbage d-Pad and awful placement of the left stick.
Not to mention the garbage triggers.
Just give me a decent d-Pad, switch it with the left stick, and give me 360-styled triggers and I am happy.
Not to mention the garbage triggers.
Just give me a decent d-Pad, switch it with the left stick, and give me 360-styled triggers and I am happy.
Buy one of these
I have one, and both of the included d-pads aren't good. I love the idea though.
Convex triggers say fuck no.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
i disagree. bring back the ds2 l2 and r2, add some gyro mumbo jumbo or whatever they want (i don't care), but the layout is just fine.
mclaren777
Member
Nailed it. I'll actually be really upset if the DS4 is noticeably different from the DS3.
Chittagong
Gold Member
Bring back the dildorang.
Syphon Filter
Member
what about r2 and l2?
Dlacy13g
Member
My main issue with that solution (which I own btw)... is one its after market so its not a standard on the DS, and two given its after market for some reason most friggin games on the PS3 come with the L1/R1 buttons as the default trigger / gas buttons, so you have to go in and change the buttons (if you can) to make this a viable option to play with. Sony just make L2/R2 the main triggers already and stop living in the year 2000.
On the contrary, i can't use it with real triggers. Bought some, used them for a while, and threw them in the bin because i get on better without them
blizzardjesus
Banned
I think I hate the D-pad on it the most, I always get blisteres/sore from it.
storafötter
Member
I think it should be modified and improved upon. Not changed drastically. The 360 controller is my favourite this game by far (ever since I held it at launch I was inlove).
It's because the controller is still better than any of the competitors.
EatinOlives
Member
And yet it still plays every modern console game perfectly with it.
A lot of people fail to realize that it lasting this long is a GOOD thing, because a controller that can play games across a span of well over a decade means it was designed well enough to stand the test of time. Care to play Uncharted 2 multiplayer with an N64 controller?
The Mana Legend
Banned
It's unbelievably stiff, and it amazes me that people think the d-pad is "perfect."
Or they just have a different opinion than you. No need to be insulting.
storafötter;41957117 said:
Same here. Tweak it and everything, but there's a reason the PSone controller kind of became the design all others branched from (and, yes, the PSone was working on the SNES standard).