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Gametrailers interview: Kojima answers EVERY question on Metal Gear Solid V
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My personal threshold is probably 30-40 bucks for Ground Zeroes released by Fall this year, with maybe 5+ hours of main story gameplay, and enough content and optional fun stuff to mess around with it as much as I want beyond that.
If the deal is worse than that, I'll seriously have to consider how loyal a MGS fanboy I am.
I was thinking more like $20.
Yes. Kojima could be lying, but he said it in the interview.
I was thinking more like $20.
I really enjoyed Peace Walker's base management and pseudo-simulation stuff, so if Ground Zeroes is based around gimmicks like that to extend replayability without making a TON of content, I'm fine with it. Your mileage might differ!
Sounds like Ground Zeroes is exactly what Kojima stated in the recent interview:
GZ is immediately after PW.
I assume Chico is captive at a base by Vladimir. You spend the entirety of GZ rescuing him with the aid of Mother Base assets. Chico is a trojin horse of sorts, after you rescue him in conclusion of GZ, Boss and co are attacked on Mother Base. Base is destroyed, Boss is in a coma... the end. Game is going to only be that base = short but with tons of replayability given all the supplies you have from Mother Base.
Phantom Pain: 9 years later, Nurse Ratchet realizes you've awakened and runs to tell the doctor. Crippled Boss and no Mother Base = Kojima's typical way of nerfing the character so you start from scratch during rehabilitation.
matrix-cat
Member
Kojima strikes me as the kind of guy who wakes up from a tongue-lolling trance in his private hallucinatorium with the scheme to make Metal Gear Solid V two different games, then puts it into action without ever even considering that Konami's marketing division has to work out how to sell them in two different boxes. There are a lot of things you could say about the guy, but I don't think you could ever accuse him of trying to nickel and dime the customer. The MGS2 and 3 demos had more content in them than most full games.
If Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain really do end up being separate games (and I'm not convinced they will, because calling them separate games when they're actually just different options in one menu screen is exactly the sort of wordplay Kojima loves), I am not worried in the slightest about the value proposition.
If Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain really do end up being separate games (and I'm not convinced they will, because calling them separate games when they're actually just different options in one menu screen is exactly the sort of wordplay Kojima loves), I am not worried in the slightest about the value proposition.
Angry Fork
Member
No Hayter is devastating for me unless internet feedback can manage to change something.
Link that David tweeted yesterday if anyone can ask other people to sign.
https://www.change.org/petitions/ko...-hayter-as-the-voice-actor-for-snake-in-mgs-v
I feel this way as well, I am being completely honest when I say I am less hyped for this without Hayter. MGS is my favorite series, I've played and beaten all of them many times, but that's why Hayter matters so much for me. I would rather play with Japanese voices/english subtitles than hear someone else as Snake, and if it's possible that's what I'll do.
Link that David tweeted yesterday if anyone can ask other people to sign.
https://www.change.org/petitions/ko...-hayter-as-the-voice-actor-for-snake-in-mgs-v
I feel this way as well, I am being completely honest when I say I am less hyped for this without Hayter. MGS is my favorite series, I've played and beaten all of them many times, but that's why Hayter matters so much for me. I would rather play with Japanese voices/english subtitles than hear someone else as Snake, and if it's possible that's what I'll do.
Takamura-San
Member
Looking at the horn and the prosthetic arm, which don't seem apparent on BB on MGS4, I wonder....
Is this a new timeline for MGS?
Is this a new timeline for MGS?
Discotheque
Banned
if it's solid snake then it absolutely must fucking have david hayter as the voice.
if it's big boss then a voice actor change is fine since the decision to have hayter voice him was stupid anyways imo.
if it's big boss then a voice actor change is fine since the decision to have hayter voice him was stupid anyways imo.
MGS 4 BB is made from clone parts?
Graphics Horse
Member
Thanks for finding that, it seems to fit in with my suspicions better than I remembered. It's true he's throwing the Ground Zeroes name around a lot with the descriptions of the map-hopping, base building game, but he's also stressing that this is just a prologue to that. But given all he showed is a guy walking along a cliff, would he need to point that out?
I'm wondering how they will actually do side content in an open world, will they just be selectable like Peace Walker, or will there be multiple objectives at the same time, or will you head to markers on the map and pick up missions like other open world games.
Such an obvious bluff.
My personal threshold is probably 30-40 bucks for Ground Zeroes released by Fall this year, with maybe 5+ hours of main story gameplay, and enough content and optional fun stuff to mess around with it as much as I want beyond that.
If the deal is worse than that, I'll seriously have to consider how loyal a MGS fanboy I am.
Such an obvious bluff.
Will the soldier system from PW be in GZ at all? It'll make sense in TPP with the Diamond Dogs starting fresh, but in GZ, Big Boss should have a fully equipped squad and base already. I also hope they flesh out the Outer Ops mode if it returns, I'd love to actually command my troops.
For one I'm glad Peace Walker is getting shitcanned by setting the proper game nine years later. I was almost worried the entire game would be set directly after its events.
I see you think Ground Zeroes is some massive game with side missions and different environments and whatnot, but I'm almost completely certain it just takes place on the base we see at the end of the GZ trailer. After you're done there you you probably get an emergency call and fly off to Mother Base, and then "game" culminates with its destruction(seen in the TPP trailer) and the capture of BB. Kojima's comments in that GZ interview probably refer to MGSV as a whole. I think it's going to be comparable to the Tanker chapter in MGS2, which is barely an hour long.
I see you think Ground Zeroes is some massive game with side missions and different environments and whatnot, but I'm almost completely certain it just takes place on the base we see at the end of the GZ trailer. After you're done there you you probably get an emergency call and fly off to Mother Base, and then "game" culminates with its destruction(seen in the TPP trailer) and the capture of BB. Kojima's comments in that GZ interview probably refer to MGSV as a whole. I think it's going to be comparable to the Tanker chapter in MGS2, which is barely an hour long.
Chittagong
Gold Member
No. You got it wrong.
Ground Zeroes is set right after Peace Walker ends, and 9 years before The Phantom Pain starts. The Phantom Pain starts with a "tutorial" in the hospital which is more of a gimmicky Kojima style simulation of how a person would feel after waking up from a coma (so you start crawling, and then you slowly regain the ability to walk).
Ground Zeroes is a product which will be released before The Phantom Pain, and serves as a prologue and teaser. It is smaller than The Phantom Pain, but more familiar to fans (because it's set right after Peace Walker), and introduces the open world mechanics of MGSV.
Well that makes more sense now. Thanks.
"From FOX, two phantoms were born."
I'm going to guess a Big Boss clone is in here somewhere. You might actually play as Big Boss in Ground Zeroes, then his clone in Phantom Pain. They could do a whole "Big Boss clone" spinoff of the story like how they spent several games focusing on Big Boss instead of Snake. This is happening, BOOK IT.
To bad I will gladly offer my wallet.
Graphics Horse
Member
Indeed. Question is, will there be any gameplay on the Mother Base attack also? I've had some practice defending Mother Base from volleys of missiles with a machine gun, so that could come in handy.
Well you do see Snake defending the thing with machine gun from a helicopter.
Weltall Zero
Member
What the hell has speaking the language have to do with being able to judge emotion in voice acting? Also, what the hell in his post warranted you to call him a weeabo? The fact that he prefers the Japanese voice actor?
(ironic disclosure: I prefer David Hayter to the Japanese voice actor, and find the latter more one-note. That said, I don't think he fits Big Boss as well as he did Solid Snake).
Box of Bunnies
Banned
Metal Gear Solid V: Ghost Babel 2 - Big Boss' Revenge
Graphics Horse
Member
Yes that might be before he lands as there's no blood on his face there, the opening shot of that scene in the trailer is probably him flying away into the sunrise.
Which obviously raises the question... how does he end up in hospital if it wasn't the mother base attack? :/
Well it's much harder to judge acting if you don't know the language-
matrix-cat
Member
Gawd, imagine if you get back to Mother Base and you have to fight an enemy-controlled Metal Gear ZEKE (only it's an actually well-designed boss battle, not a Peace Walker slog).
I would say that Ground Zeroes will be longer than the Tanker chapter and Virtuous Mission, if only because Camp Omega just looks like a larger environment. Big Boss ostensibly only has to rescue Chico and rescue/murder Paz, but I'm sure Scarface will have set a trap for him so he won't get back to Mother Base too soon.
Not really.
I don't think it'll be massive, but I do think the destruction of Mother Base will come some time after the first mission, and not immediately after. I definitely expect there to be tons of option missions, and Big Boss basically continuing their expansion post-PW, before it all comes crashing down.
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Deleted member 30609
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That was an entertaining interview.
Is there any chance this whole Hayter-thing is another weird Kojima prank?
Is there any chance this whole Hayter-thing is another weird Kojima prank?
Don'tBeWeird
Member
I'd pay full price for both, even if GZ is only an hour long with 50 minutes of cut scenes and 10 minutes of gameplay. I'm willing to bend over backwards for Metal Gear Solid, and Kojima has me by the balls.
I want them both on PS4, though. Please.
And yeah, fantastic interview. Well done, Geoff.
I want them both on PS4, though. Please.
And yeah, fantastic interview. Well done, Geoff.
matrix-cat
Member
That original GZ trailer suggests that Mother Base is being destroyed during Snake's infiltration of Camp Omega. Scarface and his men tear off all their XOF logos and fly off in the direction of Mother Base, while Kaz tells Snake that Mother Base is expecting an inspection from a UN team. I'm pretty sure Scarface captured Chico just to lure BB away from Mother Base, and as soon as they get confirmation of him leaving they fly off to wreck the place.
Helicopter is shot down, wake up in a hospital, fade to black.
"MGSV, please look forward to it".
Didn't seem like it from the interview to me. But if they really want to progress the character with a new voice (leading up to, well, his
MGS4
But it doesn't really make any sense that his voice would be different in Ground Zeroes since that takes place immediately after Peace Walker, not after a 9 year coma.
Or the XOF squad only entered Camp Omega to get information from Paz and Chico, before removing all evidence and leaving the place.
I somehow missed that connection. Ground Zeroes bomba.
Valkyr Junkie
Member
I just spent $500 on a scale model Rex; make Hayter happen dammit, Kojima!!!
Imagine how the guy feels about it lol.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Yeah he is.
But I'm also of the opinion that Hayter post MGS2 (and especially in MGS4) was beyond ridiculous... I like him, but I can't deny I always hoped he'd be more grounded and less forced in the next MGS game... unfortunately that never happened, and even tho I'd wish he was givn one last chance (if that was indeed the reason for changing) since I doubt I wouldn't have tried to reprise his MGS1 voice if Kojima had asked.
And the problem wasn't really Hayter alone, honestly all of MGS's dubs are horrible, anime quality shit that pales in comparison to the Uncharted and whatever western gme you have relying heavily on cinematics.
You mean the same Kris Zimmerman who is responsible for the "best of Western competition" like the Legacy of Kain games and God of War?
Yes, I do.You mean the same Kris Zimmerman who is responsible for the "best of Western competition" like the Legacy of Kain games and God of War?
Although she did Bayonetta, that was good at least. But that game is the right kind of stupid.
matrix-cat
Member
That could certainly be the case, but they do leave in the general direction of Mother Base (Big Boss is approaching from the south cliff, and they fly out over his head). Scarface says "The Trojan Horse is in" immediately after removing the XOF logo from his chopper, then when they're about to lift off he says "this pirate crackdown's a go" (Snake and friends are referred to as a band of pirates in Peace Walker). I'll be in for a tasty meal of crow if I get Kojima'd on this, but that's just how it looks to me now.
zerokoolpsx
Member
I'll probably get Phantom Pain and skip Ground Zeroes unless they release a collection that includes both games.
You have defended my honor, I will always remember that soldier.
How can you be happy they're changing a character's voice that has already been well established? If you do that, it isn't the same character anymore. How can ANYONE support that bullshit?
Hey guys look on how i talk about things i don't know anything about...
I'm glad that they are two separate pieces of software though, i'll probably buy the japanese version of GZ to see if i can manage to play the game Hayter-less ( i doubt it).