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Bombs detonated at Boston Marathon finish line

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ElFly

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There's footage of the explosion from the roof of a building.

It'd be hilarious if it was taken by the silhouette in that other picture.
 
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CrushDance

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MoonsaultSlayer said:
Haha. What I was trying to say was we're all here mocking the racial profiling because "that's mean and unfair and so racist", but at the same time if the attackers were a particular group that matches the profile of those being questioned, they were counting on everyone being more lenient and less suspicious because that's how you go unnoticed. Meaning the more the public decries racial profiling rightfully so, the more likely an attack can occur. Terrorists win no matter what. What I'm implying is that we should all cooperate and tolerate these types of checks because you never know. Until we're at absolute peace, no one should be protected from this so whether you happen to match a specific race of interest or happen to be of the majority but look out of place, you're suspect and should cooperate to help the investigation. I say this as a person with social issues who always feels awkward in public gatherings. If something were to happen, I would no doubt be investigated. I'm ok with this.

And I'm talking about non-violent suspicion.
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So have you just never payed attention to the difference in responses depending on what group commits a crime? Muslims aren't praying on the internet and asking for solidarity for fun. Racial profiling only ever works in favour of the majority.

I mean, we could always round up all Muslims like with the Japanese in WW2.
 
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MoonsaultSlayer

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CrushDance said:
So have you just never payed attention to the difference in responses depending on what group commits a crime? Muslims aren't praying on the internet and asking for solidarity for fun. Racial profiling only ever works in favour of the majority.

I mean, we could always round up all Muslims like with the Japanese in WW2.
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In my original comment, I stated I don't support racism, bigotry and violence towards people. I'm just talking about cooperation. Every talks about rights and violations and inconveniences at airports and such. If we all cooperated, only those who won't would remain suspicious. Peace has a price.
 
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Nesotenso

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assume everyone knows that the Chinese grad. student has been named. Feel for her (and all the victim families). even sadder if she was an only child.
 
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jim-jam bongs

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MoonsaultSlayer said:
In my original comment, I stated I don't support racism, bigotry and violence towards people. I'm just talking about cooperation. Every talks about rights and violations and inconveniences at airports and such. If we all cooperated, only those who won't would remain suspicious. Peace has a price.
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Nobody is saying that if a Muslim is a suspect we should dismiss it and not check it out. People are saying that we shouldn't be assuming the person is a Muslim and behaving like bigots. Use your brain.
 
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CrushDance

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MoonsaultSlayer said:
In my original comment, I stated I don't support racism, bigotry and violence towards people. I'm just talking about cooperation. Every talks about rights and violations and inconveniences at airports and such. If we all cooperated, only those who won't would remain suspicious. Peace has a price.
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So let's say another act of terror is committed. Who, what group of people should be looked for? Do those people no longer have a say in being stopped and detained or questioned?

Whether you realize it or not. When people hear Muslim or Islam. It is always a mental image of Arabs. What you're saying is not only a slippery slope, but also fails to take into account that Muslims are a religious group and as such, there are and have been extremists of all backgrounds. Your plan could simply be defeated by the wrong person being ignored.

There is not a single situation whereby racial profiling is honest or legitimate. There is very distinct and different language used if and when a minority commits a crime. Let the authorities do their job instead of trying to guess. It doesn't help anything.
 
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strobogo

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ElectricBlanketFire said:
You just described WrassleGAF.
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You son of a bitch!
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MoonsaultSlayer

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jim-jam bongs said:
Nobody is saying that if a Muslim is a suspect we should dismiss it and not check it out. People are saying that we shouldn't be assuming the person is a Muslim and behaving like bigots. Use your brain.
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CrushDance said:
So let's say another act of terror is committed. Who, what group of people should be looked for? Do those people no longer have a say in being stopped and detained or questioned?

Whether you realize it or not. When people hear Muslim or Islam. It is always a mental image of Arabs. What you're saying is not only a slippery slope, but also fails to take into account that Muslims are a religious group and as such, there are and have been extremists of all backgrounds. Your plan could simply be defeated by the wrong person being ignored.

There is not a single situation whereby racial profiling is honest or legitimate. There is very distinct and different language used if and when a minority commits a crime. Let the authorities do their job instead of trying to guess. It doesn't help anything.
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I'm just talking about the people being circled that actually may seem suspicious. There many races within the pic and people here see a brown man circled and mock the deductive reasoning. I also see an older, white man circled. What I'm saying is those circled weren't picked JUST because of their skin tone. We're a species that finds patterns, and sometimes these attacks follow similar patterns. If another movie theatre incident happened and the shooter got away, of course we'd be circling the loner white kid with crazy eyes. Edit: and if that means me and my friends are stopped and checked before entering, I'm ok with that.
 
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NathanMcMahon

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MoonsaultSlayer said:
I'm just talking about the people being circled that actually may seem suspicious. There many races within the pic and people here see a brown man circled and mock the deductive reasoning. I also see an older, white man circled. What I'm saying is those circled weren't picked JUST because of their skin tone. We're a species that finds patterns, and sometimes these attacks follow similar patterns. If another movie theatre incident happened and the shooter got away, of course we'd be circling the loner white kid with crazy eyes. Edit: and if that means me and my friends are stopped and checked before entering, I'm ok with that.
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I'm not okay with that for me though.
 
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CrushDance

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There would be no search for a crazy eyed white kid. There would be a search. But the topic off ethnicity would not be the issue that it often is when it comes to others. That's the entire point. No majority puts themselves under fire. Hence why although I understand what you're saying, most people oppose racial profiling because of how people react. In a perfect world it would be just another factor, yes.
 
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jim-jam bongs

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MoonsaultSlayer said:
I'm just talking about the people being circled that actually may seem suspicious. There many races within the pic and people here see a brown man circled and mock the deductive reasoning. I also see an older, white man circled. What I'm saying is those circled weren't picked JUST because of their skin tone. We're a species that finds patterns, and sometimes these attacks follow similar patterns. If another movie theatre incident happened and the shooter got away, of course we'd be circling the loner white kid with crazy eyes. Edit: and if that means me and my friends are stopped and checked before entering, I'm ok with that.
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The US has had a long and tragic history with terrorism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States

If you look at all of those incidents and tally up Islamic extremist plots versus others you'll realise that there is no more of a reason to suspect a Muslim of being the culprit when a bomb goes off than anyone of any other religion. Also, people are mocking it because it specifically says "look a brown person!!!" And for the hat-trick, Muslim doesn't even necessarily mean brown.
 
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MoonsaultSlayer

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NathanMcMahon said:
I'm not okay with that for me though.
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jim-jam bongs said:
The US has had a long and tragic history with terrorism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States

If you look at all of those incidents and tally up Islamic extremist plots versus others you'll realise that there is no more of a reason to suspect a Muslim of being the culprit when a bomb goes off than anyone of any other religion. Also, people are mocking it because it specifically says "look a brown person!!!" And for the hat-trick, Muslim doesn't even necessarily mean brown.
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I'm assuming those are jokes especially when viewed next to a woman's ass circled claiming "da bomb". At least I hope.

Hell, I'm not saying it is necessarily Islamic extremests. That one white guy seemed more suspicious to me. What I am saying is it's brain scambling to think that if it WAS Islamic extremests, then they are exploiting a comfort zone that we all hope for. That little nugget is what spawned my idea that we should all cooperate to instill peace. No more looking at it as a negative.
 
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Joe Shlabotnik

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MoonsaultSlayer said:
I'm assuming those are jokes especially when viewed next to a woman's ass circled claiming "da bomb". At least I hope.

Hell, I'm not saying it is necessarily Islamic extremests. That one white guy seemed more suspicious to me. What I am saying is it's brain scambling to think that if it WAS Islamic extremests, then they are exploiting a comfort zone that we all hope for. That little nugget is what spawned my idea that we should all cooperate to instill peace. No more looking at it as a negative.
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Maybe we should stop trying to triple-guess what terrorists "want us to do" like it's the fucking battle of wits from The Princess Bride.
 
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jim-jam bongs

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MoonsaultSlayer said:
I'm assuming those are jokes especially when viewed next to a woman's ass circled claiming "da bomb". At least I hope.

Hell, I'm not saying it is necessarily Islamic extremests. That one white guy seemed more suspicious to me. What I am saying is it's brain scambling to think that if it WAS Islamic extremests, then they are exploiting a comfort zone that we all hope for. That little nugget is what spawned my idea that we should all cooperate to instill peace. No more looking at it as a negative.
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Okay, but many of the responses from the American public, at least online, do not in any way support this thesis of yours: http://publicshaming.tumblr.com/post/48093470152/two-explosives-went-off-at-the-boston-marathon-on

What I'm saying is that we shouldn't assume anything about the race of the perpetrator of this revolting act; they could be white, black, brown, yellow or fuschia for all we know. As I said in my last post, there have been a LOT of terrorist attacks on US soil, before and after September 11 2001, which were not linked to Islamic extremism, so there is no reason to assume without any evidence to support the assumption that this attack was the work of Muslims. That means that racial profiling right now is useless and bigoted.
 
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Oozer3993

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Fox News is claiming pictures of two suspects have been distributed to law enforcement officials. Fox has the pictures but aren't releasing them until given the go ahead by the FBI. A Fox reporter said the suspects' faces are clearly visible in the pictures.
 
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BlazingDarkness

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Most of the stuff they mention is just 'is wearing a black backpack' or 'is not paying attention to the race' - doesn't really mean anything when there are hundreds of people with bags, and you'll not find any picture with every person looking towards the road.
 
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sangreal

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DrSlek said:
That is the symbol for Marvel's Punisher anti-hero, and it's incredibly common for earbuds to only be used in a single ear nowadays. I see it all the time with students at work.
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Those guys are staff, whether they're from private military contractor or not (probably are). Look at any random pictures of the site after the explosions and you can find those same 2 guys plus a bunch of other guys in the same uniform. eg:
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Those are just from random photos. I'm actually pretty sure that the picture of them talking on a phone or whatever is from after the bombing too
 
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SquiddyCracker

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So now that it's looking unlikely that hordes of muslims are responsible, what are those crazies who were talking about how Muslims want to destroy amerikuh saying now?
 
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freenudemacusers

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man that hockey game video...

sangreal said:
Those guys are staff, whether they're from private military contractor or not (probably are). Look at any random pictures of the site after the explosions and you can find those same 2 guys plus a bunch of other guys in the same uniform. eg:
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DfOZBV2.jpg


Those are just from random photos. I'm actually pretty sure that the picture of them talking on a phone or whatever is from after the bombing too
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yeah I don't know why people keep reposting that same series of pics that try to single this guy out. I would assume the guy dropping explosives would be hanging out afterward.
 
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