Well their other main division DID remove the start button from windows...
DOES ANYONE THERE LISTEN TO THEIR CUSTOMERS.
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Rumor: Microsoft removing Kinect requirement for Xbox One
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Well their other main division DID remove the start button from windows...
DOES ANYONE THERE LISTEN TO THEIR CUSTOMERS.
Liquidsnake
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They had an idea, it just wasn't the correct one.
I've been saying this for the last few pages but no one listens to me.
Maybe it's not being picked up because it's a friggin email to a PR relations company doing Xbox work, who obviously got mixed up as to what's required or not.
This is exactly the same as if Target priced the XB1 at $399, then corrected it to $499 one minute later, with a thread going up saying "RUMOR: Xbox One price to be at $399?"
We had a few years now to see what Kinect was all about. It was complete trash.
The only genres it did anything remotely for was mini-game trash and dance party games, and those had their day in the sun already (as if we needed more shallow, emptyminded garbage in the industry). Virtually every other genre is ruined by the product, because without tactile feedback and the efficiency and reliability of a button press, the vast majority of game experiences are inferior. That's just the way it is, and that's something that can never be improved with Kinect technology given what it is. By its nature it removes tactile feedback, and thus relegates itself to the realm of paltry, forgettable gimmicks more appealing to ADHD set who constantly needs "TEH INNOVATIONS" regardless of whether those innovations are any good or not to stay interested than to hardcore gamers who actually care about things like responsive and reliable controls.
In the YEARS we've had Kinect out, there has hardly been a single new idea brought to the table, a single genre outside of those two I mentioned improved in any appreciable way.
What's left with Kinect now is a heartbeat sensor (oh boy I can't wait for what crap devs are going to do with this *roll eyes*) and the microphone, the ladder of which could have been done with a simple headset or microphone built into the console and thus removing the need for a $100 increase in price for a gaming device that is worthless for most gaming applications.
Even better! But they need to be at most $399 to compete.
I do. I don't care about used games, I have wonderful internet, and I have multiple Xboxes at home(s) and work. And I'm in a pretty large family with a lot of gamers, so it really sounded like the perfect proposition for me.
I want my digital content to be on digital shelves wherever I go. Not on crappy plastic rings littered across my house.
Instead of something truly unique and pioneering, we're stuck with a boring lump of crap, no different to the PS4. If I just wanted better graphics, I'd have bought a PC.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Yup and that is the way it should be. I think most Xbox fans just want a more powerful 360 without any bullshit attached. They might get it after all if we are lucky. But I dunno how invested MS is in having Kinect bundled till the end of time.
commanderpepper
Member
Oh lawd, what is next for Microsoft?
Not really. Most people already committed to ps4 games and bundles on promotion after e3. If these people switch they can't get Xbox games on these same promotions. That ship has sailed. Details wise they are almost even with ps4 but the price difference still leaves them behind.
Not to mention they have done a tremendous amount of damage to their image not just in the details but mainly in the spinning of all the bad policies and treating is like idiots.
I'm sure they still will include kinect built in.
True or not, Microsoft's PR effort over the last month has been hilariously awesome. They're so incapable of selling their vision and have been reduced to being entirely reactive in such a short time period. I wouldn't trust a damned thing Microsoft says to be true for more than a week at a time.
At this point they could offer to blow me and I wouldn't trust them.
At this point they could offer to blow me and I wouldn't trust them.
Exactly.
Randolph Freelander
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Kinect can only make the experience worse. Smartglass, too.
I had no interest in the Kinect this gen and have no interest in it next gen. Not to the tune of a 25% increase in cost of the system at least. If it was included at essentially no cost then I'd accept it.
Motion controls suck in general -- we've had a long time to figure this out. It isn't about being close-minded when you've already determined for the better part of a decade that something is not appealing.
SRTtoZ
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They still aren't looking that great but it is early. According to cheapassgamer Microsofts change of plans had about a 10% increase (PS4 was at close to 60% preorders and now is at 50%) in preorders.
Some people can't be pleased.
Either way, I'm happy with all the changes they've made except for axing the family plan. Hopefully they can bring that back some time down the road.
Really, all I want from them is indie self-publishing. That's it. I don't know why they didn't have it in place in the first place, as that seemed like a no-brainer, but it doesn't matter. Just do it, please!
Tallshortman
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This whole saga has me questioning MS's decision making as a whole. Sure, they aren't completely blind and backtracked but boy I don't know what they were thinking when they came into this thing with that sort of message. It seems like they are scrapping a lot of their "vision" for the console and shoehorning new software at the last minute (relatively speaking) in a desperate bid to respond. Why this wasn't well thought out in the first place is beyond me. Then again MS decision making in the consumer market has been lacking since Gates left.
Vincent Alexander
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Yep. That's what happens when you try and fuck someone. Microsoft has a long, hard road to travel to win me back.
Nothing appealing? You have to be trolling. Dead Rising 3 looks pretty appealing to me.
bish do something you have to stop the madness in here!
People are hoping they are hoping to remove Kinect next, which would be the dumbest thing they could do.
Yeah. To be fair anything below 400 bucks would be maybe even TOO troublesome for PS4.
JetBlackPanda
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yeah, everyone is going to buy a more expensive less powerful console.
cyberheater
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I've got Kinect for my Xbox 360 and it wouldn't bother me in the slightest if I never had another one for Xbox One.
Just navigating by voice is a chore. It's much faster using the gamepad.
Just navigating by voice is a chore. It's much faster using the gamepad.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Same.
My launch 360 RROD'd again a couple days before Halo 3 hit.
I went straight out and bought another one, then sold the launch unit when it came back from repair.
Napalm_Frank
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Because if the plugged in thing is true it opens a way for a Kinectless SKU with cheaper price?
Not saying it's happening (.gif) but I'm in the camp that thinks it would be the smart thing to do.
They can probably remove the 'mandated' part of kinect but still recommend it is plugged in at all times. They need to sell all that fisting action to shrink the screen to mainstream consumers.
And if yields are bad there is no point getting preorders up (unless they just want to clock lock Sony and have customers waiting until January for their consoles)
And if yields are bad there is no point getting preorders up (unless they just want to clock lock Sony and have customers waiting until January for their consoles)
Giving Xbone for free?
SRTtoZ
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Garrett 2U
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another tweet he made
https://twitter.com/mr_liedtke/status/348115930057961472
idk, this is all too much
No they haven't. They'll break even with Sony again just like this generation.
And it's even coming from just one (questionable) source, with no one else picking it up. TALES FROM MY ASS?
mohsinkhan
Member
Do it, and release a 400 $ sku without the camera and we have a deal.
Zen_Arcade
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There were plenty of people who disliked an always on Kinect just as much as they didn't like the DRM. I personally am still not buying it until a price drop or a Kinectless bundle that reduces the price.
Hopefully you're wrong and they will push the Kinect as hard as you want them to, because I'm always up for more options that will intrigue people to play something they wouldn't usually play.
Yea...I don't think there's any way it won't go as planned and be packaged in.
RobotRocker
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This is going to be a Gamestop wet dream as well.
People not happy with Kinect start trading in Kinect. Core Game comes out that shows unique application of Kinect to the core experience. People run back in and buy used Kinects. Everyone named Gamestop wins!
This whole reversal is Microsoft outside Gamestop's Balcony window holding up a radio playing this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3kFPBtc9BE
People are going daft over some email and turning it into entire novels of meaning.
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