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FRIDAYTON MK II: 5.5 million bears and salmon create unholy allliance to sack SONY HQ

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Yawnier

Banned
AniHawk said:
i remember when i purchased my first sony system. it was after christmas and i had finally gathered enough money with my sibling to plunk down $299.99 (plus tax) at a gamestop. we bought final fantasy vii and final fantasy x. ffx was the most technologically advanced thing i had ever seen. i cried when they cried. i laughed when they laughed. it was a true experience that touched me deeply. there were many more experiences on the ps2 like this that made me the person i am today.

flash forward to ps3. the $599.99 announcement stung, but i knew in my heart of hearts that i would come back to the worlds sony had made so dear. years later in 2009, i purchased one, and only a few months later i experienced the tour de force that was david cage's heavy rain. uncharted 2 and the last of us followed (with beyond still on the way). these were experiences that not only further shaped me as a person, but changed the gaming landscape as we knew it.

just a month ago i reserved a ps4. the promise of 8gb gddr5 meant exciting new worlds, new heights in storytelling, new frontiers to be experienced. now i'm not sure if that will be possible. and i don't know with this betrayal how i could ever trust sony again.
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AniHawk
Cranky. Very cranky.
Rather sarcastic to boot.

Before people take this post too seriously, rofl.
 
Meus Renaissance

Meus Renaissance

Member
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I actually have a spare still in order for me. I have been wanting to cancel one of the orders for a while
 
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Frodo

Member
AniHawk said:
i remember when i purchased my first sony system. it was after christmas and i had finally gathered enough money with my sibling to plunk down $299.99 (plus tax) at a gamestop. we bought final fantasy vii and final fantasy x. ffx was the most technologically advanced thing i had ever seen. i cried when they cried. i laughed when they laughed. it was a true experience that touched me deeply. there were many more experiences on the ps2 like this that made me the person i am today.

flash forward to ps3. the $599.99 announcement stung, but i knew in my heart of hearts that i would come back to the worlds sony had made so dear. years later in 2009, i purchased one, and only a few months later i experienced the tour de force that was david cage's heavy rain. uncharted 2 and the last of us followed (with beyond still on the way). these were experiences that not only further shaped me as a person, but changed the gaming landscape as we knew it.

just a month ago i reserved a ps4. the promise of 8gb gddr5 meant exciting new worlds, new heights in storytelling, new frontiers to be experienced. now i'm not sure if that will be possible. and i don't know with this betrayal how i could ever trust sony again.
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Oh, you!
 
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Neuromancer

Member
AniHawk said:
i remember when i purchased my first sony system. it was after christmas and i had finally gathered enough money with my sibling to plunk down $299.99 (plus tax) at a gamestop. we bought final fantasy vii and final fantasy x. ffx was the most technologically advanced thing i had ever seen. i cried when they cried. i laughed when they laughed. it was a true experience that touched me deeply. there were many more experiences on the ps2 like this that made me the person i am today.

flash forward to ps3. the $599.99 announcement stung, but i knew in my heart of hearts that i would come back to the worlds sony had made so dear. years later in 2009, i purchased one, and only a few months later i experienced the tour de force that was david cage's heavy rain. uncharted 2 and the last of us followed (with beyond still on the way). these were experiences that not only further shaped me as a person, but changed the gaming landscape as we knew it.

just a month ago i reserved a ps4. the promise of 8gb gddr5 meant exciting new worlds, new heights in storytelling, new frontiers to be experienced. now i'm not sure if that will be possible. and i don't know with this betrayal how i could ever trust sony again.
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Ahahaha
 
DietRob

DietRob

i've been begging for over 5 years.
AniHawk said:
i remember when i purchased my first sony system. it was after christmas and i had finally gathered enough money with my sibling to plunk down $299.99 (plus tax) at a gamestop. we bought final fantasy vii and final fantasy x. ffx was the most technologically advanced thing i had ever seen. i cried when they cried. i laughed when they laughed. it was a true experience that touched me deeply. there were many more experiences on the ps2 like this that made me the person i am today.

flash forward to ps3. the $599.99 announcement stung, but i knew in my heart of hearts that i would come back to the worlds sony had made so dear. years later in 2009, i purchased one, and only a few months later i experienced the tour de force that was david cage's heavy rain. uncharted 2 and the last of us followed (with beyond still on the way). these were experiences that not only further shaped me as a person, but changed the gaming landscape as we knew it.

just a month ago i reserved a ps4. the promise of 8gb gddr5 meant exciting new worlds, new heights in storytelling, new frontiers to be experienced. now i'm not sure if that will be possible. and i don't know with this betrayal how i could ever trust sony again.
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We needed a new "Shot yourself in the foot post"

This delivers. ;)
 
xaosslug

xaosslug

Member
AniHawk said:
i remember when i purchased my first sony system. it was after christmas and i had finally gathered enough money with my sibling to plunk down $299.99 (plus tax) at a gamestop. we bought final fantasy vii and final fantasy x. ffx was the most technologically advanced thing i had ever seen. i cried when they cried. i laughed when they laughed. it was a true experience that touched me deeply. there were many more experiences on the ps2 like this that made me the person i am today.

flash forward to ps3. the $599.99 announcement stung, but i knew in my heart of hearts that i would come back to the worlds sony had made so dear. years later in 2009, i purchased one, and only a few months later i experienced the tour de force that was david cage's heavy rain. uncharted 2 and the last of us followed (with beyond still on the way). these were experiences that not only further shaped me as a person, but changed the gaming landscape as we knew it.

just a month ago i reserved a ps4. the promise of 8gb gddr5 meant exciting new worlds, new heights in storytelling, new frontiers to be experienced. now i'm not sure if that will be possible. and i don't know with this betrayal how i could ever trust sony again.
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lol
 
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Stoof

Member
AniHawk said:
i remember when i purchased my first sony system. it was after christmas and i had finally gathered enough money with my sibling to plunk down $299.99 (plus tax) at a gamestop. we bought final fantasy vii and final fantasy x. ffx was the most technologically advanced thing i had ever seen. i cried when they cried. i laughed when they laughed. it was a true experience that touched me deeply. there were many more experiences on the ps2 like this that made me the person i am today.

flash forward to ps3. the $599.99 announcement stung, but i knew in my heart of hearts that i would come back to the worlds sony had made so dear. years later in 2009, i purchased one, and only a few months later i experienced the tour de force that was david cage's heavy rain. uncharted 2 and the last of us followed (with beyond still on the way). these were experiences that not only further shaped me as a person, but changed the gaming landscape as we knew it.

just a month ago i reserved a ps4. the promise of 8gb gddr5 meant exciting new worlds, new heights in storytelling, new frontiers to be experienced. now i'm not sure if that will be possible. and i don't know with this betrayal how i could ever trust sony again.
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Just let it go man. Sony is only after your monies and your RAMs.
bravo
 
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FunkyPajamas

Member
AniHawk said:
i remember when i purchased my first sony system. it was after christmas and i had finally gathered enough money with my sibling to plunk down $299.99 (plus tax) at a gamestop. we bought final fantasy vii and final fantasy x. ffx was the most technologically advanced thing i had ever seen. i cried when they cried. i laughed when they laughed. it was a true experience that touched me deeply. there were many more experiences on the ps2 like this that made me the person i am today.

flash forward to ps3. the $599.99 announcement stung, but i knew in my heart of hearts that i would come back to the worlds sony had made so dear. years later in 2009, i purchased one, and only a few months later i experienced the tour de force that was david cage's heavy rain. uncharted 2 and the last of us followed (with beyond still on the way). these were experiences that not only further shaped me as a person, but changed the gaming landscape as we knew it.

just a month ago i reserved a ps4. the promise of 8gb gddr5 meant exciting new worlds, new heights in storytelling, new frontiers to be experienced. now i'm not sure if that will be possible. and i don't know with this betrayal how i could ever trust sony again.
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I swear you and EmCeeGramr should get together and write gaf fanfiction. <3

I still can't forgive you for hating Prime though.
 
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battlefieldfan1

Banned
LCfiner said:
I think you're misunderstanding me.

yeah, that demo looked amazing. And it used less than 4 GB of available RAM. The point is that late next gen, we should expect stuff to look like that and take place on much larger scale. That level of fidelity in a bigger space with more characters and more interactive items requires more memory.

my point was that we can't sit back and say that 4.5 GB will be plenty because of the tech demos we saw. More memory is always better.

And, honestly, it still makes zero sense to me for Sony to double the RAM, eat that extra BOM cost, and only give developers an extra GB o so to work with. Especially since they said publicly that devs were asking for 8 GB - assuming that most of it would be usable to them.

This whole thing is just super weird. Either Sony wants to shoehorn multiple running apps into the PS4, or the OS as they've shown it so far is just a RAM hog
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Maybe it's because SONY is thinking about bigger things than pleasing basement-dwelling core gamers.
Gaming isn't about playing The Last of Us anymore. Gaming is about ordering pizza through xbox LIVE apps. Gaming is about talking to your mom through skype on a Friday night.
 
J

Jellzy

Neo Member
Just can't see how we've went from 4GB of Memory with 512MB allocated to the OS to 8GB with 2.5/3.5GB of memory allocated to the OS.

1/8 to 3.5/8

So effectively we've multiplied our memory by 2 but our OS by 5 to 7 times.

Then again one of Sony's biggest mistakes this current generation was it's lack of properly implemented social features (Party chat, System level cross game invites etc.).

Making sure they have enough memory allocated to the OS and releasing it back to developers again as they reduce the footprint whilst still keeping parity in terms of features with the One is understandable though.
 
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iratA

Member
Again... if the Dark Sorcerer taught us anything, its that 4GB of GDDR should be enough for all but the most insane graphics. 4GB's ran Quantic Dream's beast.
 
R

Rat Salad

Banned
RoadHazard said:
The PS4's RAM is still significantly faster and more suited for games though. So the PS4's advantage hasn't disappeared here, it has just gotten smaller. (Of course, the major GPU advantage is still there as well.)
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You trying to move the goal posts? :) Im still laughing at the dick wavers who got kicked in the nads here. That'll teach these fools for shitting up X1 threads with the ram usage for games agenda they were preaching. Now its a backpeddle. Its quite funny. Both machines are becoming more alike as we near launch.
 
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NullPointer

Member
Dennis said:
Then how can it be that Sony almost went with 4GB RAM?

That would have left 0.5GB for games..........

.........something doesn't add up.

3.5GB for OS? lollers
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Maybe it was originally 1GB reserved out of 4GB, but later extended to 3.5GB out of 8GB?

That'd be my guess, pulled whole cloth from various and diverse nether regions.

3.5GB? I don't understand. Is this confirmed?
 
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CadetMahoney

Member
SolidusDave said:
Maybe Sony isn't sure how well MS's 3xOS + Kinect is received and want to implement the same in case people are complaining the PS4 can't do all that? (like assuming the PSEye runs at all times in the background for gestures etc. even though it's optional for gamers, then DVR stuff etc.).
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Isn't Kinect sopposed to be garbage right off the bat and many ppl saying they won't buy x1 with Kinect, yet Sony is somehow scared of features it might add to gaming so are backpeddling/reactionary trying to reserve memory "just in case".
 
dragonfart28

dragonfart28

Banned
netBuff said:
Unless this is well hidden sarcasm: 8 GB of GDDR5 RAM were announced back in February, where PS4 was first revealed. There was no public "upgrade".
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Ah crap sorry.. I thought I read someone's post earlier in this thread that said otherwise. You guys are right, it was revealed at the getgo.

Which kinda makes sense because they also revealed the sharing feature, etc. at that time.
 
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Metalmurphy

Member
I H8 Memes said:
I will wait for Sony to confirm, but it's not likely that this isnt true. It's the video recording feature. Even using the best compression techniques video with audio takes up a ton of space and resources. Just starting to record gameplay will drop my ingame performance from 60 fps to 45 fps when recording at only 35fps.

I'm sure what they are using is probably more efficient than something like Fraps. But using fraps recording at only 900p I easily go over 1gb of data per minute on the hdd. Not sure how much memory the program uses to record but we are talking about the recording + compression on top of the normal OS features.
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PS4 has dedicated hardware for this... and an hard drive.

iratA said:
Again... if the Dark Sorcerer taught us anything, its that 4GB of GDDR should be enough for all but the most insane graphics. 4GB's ran Quantic Dream's beast.
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On a very limited and closed environment. 4.5GB is not enough for the entirety of this next gen.
 
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anexanhume

Member
Isn't it pretty god damn obvious the OS team did a mad grab when the RAM increased for fear they'd get hosed on OS features like they did last gen?
 
C

Crisco

Banned
Sony will never respond to this, to confirm or deny. There's just no incentive to do so. Even if it's absolutely true, no one outside of this forum will understand or care. If it's false then they've just validated shoddy journalism by giving them time of day. Besides, their employees probably get a kick out of reading this crap during lunch breaks.
 
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vctor182

Member
AniHawk said:
i remember when i purchased my first sony system. it was after christmas and i had finally gathered enough money with my sibling to plunk down $299.99 (plus tax) at a gamestop. we bought final fantasy vii and final fantasy x. ffx was the most technologically advanced thing i had ever seen. i cried when they cried. i laughed when they laughed. it was a true experience that touched me deeply. there were many more experiences on the ps2 like this that made me the person i am today.

flash forward to ps3. the $599.99 announcement stung, but i knew in my heart of hearts that i would come back to the worlds sony had made so dear. years later in 2009, i purchased one, and only a few months later i experienced the tour de force that was david cage's heavy rain. uncharted 2 and the last of us followed (with beyond still on the way). these were experiences that not only further shaped me as a person, but changed the gaming landscape as we knew it.

just a month ago i reserved a ps4. the promise of 8gb gddr5 meant exciting new worlds, new heights in storytelling, new frontiers to be experienced. now i'm not sure if that will be possible. and i don't know with this betrayal how i could ever trust sony again.
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This has to be a joke post right guys??
.....
Guys????
 
Eclectic Jabber Monkey

Eclectic Jabber Monkey

Member
N2NOther said:
Here's how the math works for me:

=~= 500mb of RAM = Uncharted 3 and The Last of Us.

4.5 gigs of RAM = mind blown
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I have most of the settings on Battlefield 3 maxed out on my PC and it uses around 2GB of system memory and 1.5GB of video RAM when playing with 64 players on a server. It looks pretty darn good at 1920 x 1200, IMO.

With BF4 they are making it a 64-bit application which will allow them to surpass the 2GB system memory limitation that BF3 had. Looking forward to seeing what DICE can do with the memory shackles removed with BF4.

Check out some BF3 videos for a taste of the future.
 
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RK9039

Member
iratA said:
Again... if the Dark Sorcerer taught us anything, its that 4GB of GDDR should be enough for all but the most insane graphics. 4GB's ran Quantic Dream's beast.
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Quantic Dream don't make games though. But whatever they decide to make it will look nice.
 
PSYGN

PSYGN

Member
I don't understand why they need that much. Is it because of streaming gameplay or something on top of a full OS experience (I'm assuming) even in game?
 
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battlefieldfan1

Banned
PSYGN said:
I don't understand why they need that much. Is it because of streaming gameplay or something on top of a full OS experience (I'm assuming) even in game?
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Future-proofing the system so that they can add more social features down the line.
Gaming is about dancing, singing, skyping with your mom and ordering pizza now. Sorry, but you core gamers are just gonna have to deal with it. There's not much you can do when you guys only make up 2 million out of the hundreds of millions of gamers on the planet.
 
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