Yes, because price doesn't factor into a product's desirability whatsoever.
It got dropped by £50 in Asda, then a further £50, and then dropped. What does that tell you?
Yes, because price doesn't factor into a product's desirability whatsoever.
Yes, because price doesn't factor into a product's desirability whatsoever.
Mail-in rebate for a free Wii-U with every purchase of a large soda and crisps.It got dropped by £50 in Asda, then a further £50, and then dropped. What does that tell you?
Yes, because price doesn't factor into a product's desirability whatsoever.
There's a lot of room for price drops with the Wii U, hence why I really think people are jumping the gun by saying Gamecube numbers are it's destiny.
I find your cultural sensitivity endearing.Mail-in rebate for a free Wii-U with every purchase of a large soda and crisps.
In addition to ASDA it looks like Blockbuster may be following suit in dropping the Wii U.
They've reduced the price of the console to £149.97 and pretty much every game and accessory to a price ending in 97p, which denotes a clearance product.
It's important to do your research and tailor your message* to your audience.I find your cultural sensitivity endearing.
I find your cultural sensitivity endearing.
When I see this thread, I keep thinking back to the kid I met on BLOPS2 for Wii U and how he told me he saved up all his money working over the summer around his neighborhood so he could buy the Wii U.
It's really sad to think he might not get his moneys worth.
It's a good life lesson. The money I saved up and wasted on the Sega CD and 32X helped make me the man I am today.
It's not doing fine at all though, sales are far below that of the GameCube and retailers are getting extremely impatient with Nintendo so they will likely be forced to cut the price and incur huge losses on the hardware, unlike the GameCube where they initially making a small loss before getting back into the green. At this rate, the Wii U will not get close to matching the GameCube's lifetime sales unless Nintendo are willing to be subject to drastic losses, something they have been historically unwilling to do. Nintendo have found themselves in a situation they have never been in before.
The PS3 wasn't saved only by virtue of good software. It was saved by aggressive price cuts and marketing, repeated hardware revisions, somewhat respectable sales (remember the PS3 at this time was doing far better than the WiiU is right now), competitive hardware that was relevant through the entirety of the generation, and general industry confidence that it would eventually get better.
Retailers didn't outright drop the PS3 from its shelves and refused to stock it further. They weren't shoved to tiny shelf space and left for dead, because Sony made frequent and obvious effort to improve their position. Nintendo at this point is bafflingly changing nothing and instead digging in their heels, refusing to budge in price, SKUs and marketing, somehow hoping that the holiday software will be enough to kickstart sales without them putting in any effort in rebranding, redesigning, or re-pricing their console.
Not to mention the PS3 was not released in a position where the other two competitors were poised to release far more compelling hardware. It's simply not safe to assume that the WiiU will recover simply by looking at other consoles and observing that they too recovered at some point. You have to look into why they recovered and in what market environment they operated.
Then those people from the US would be wrong. It is a big deal, the fourth largest entertainment retailer and second largest retailer in general has dropped Nintendo's flagship product in the run up to Christmas. Seriously, you have basically zero understanding of markets outside of the US, just because you don't get it, don't tar other people in your country with the same brush, they are in this thread and seem to understand it fully.
it's still a big deal, just much less of a deal than people from america would instantly expect after reading the OP
In addition to ASDA it looks like Blockbuster may be following suit in dropping the Wii U.
They've reduced the price of the console to £149.97 and pretty much every game and accessory to a price ending in 97p, which denotes a clearance product.
I never want to glance down at the second screen whilst playing on a TV six feet+ away. Ever.Well, the advantage for many is off-TV play. I don't see why you'd want anything more than a Honk anyway for MK. It's not the type of game where you have the time to glance down at the second screen whilst playing.
Gotta imagine a huge price drop is coming this fall.
Worked really well in Zombi-U precisely because it preyed on your reluctance to look away from the TV.I never want to glance down at the second screen whilst playing on a TV six feet+ away. Ever.
It would have to be MASSIVE to even get the Wii U up to gamecube numbers in the uk at this point, retailers have already slashed prices unofficially for the wii u by massive amounts, and it hasn't made the slightest bit of difference.
What does that have to do with the Wii U?Yeah, pretty sure their 10+ billion cash reserve can help keep them afloat.
Against a £349.99 PS4 the Wii U needs to be £199.99 for the Premium.
Yeah, it really should be commended just how fucking QUICKLY Sony moved the right the ship with PS3. For a while it seemed like every other month we were hearing about some major reshuffling with the company and the console itself. And, again, it must be stressed that PS3 was NEVER doing as poorly as the Wii U is, nor was 3rd party support ever in question.
Nintendo in comparison really isn't doing much to change their position here.
This is the sort of tactics and level of vindictiveness that detracts businesses and publishers from having relations with Nintendo. While it isn't exclusive to them, Nintendo needs to understand that they don't have the same market presence as its competitors (they're exclusively games) and therefore have less leverage to work with. Instead of exacting revenge/control on those businesses that have wronged them in the past, they should adopt a more turn the next cheek policy.
You mean just like how Sega does it now?
Gotta imagine a huge price drop is coming this fall.
Similar story here in NZ.
Barely any shops stock the WII U. Dick Smith, a relatively big national wide consumer electronic shop discontinued stocking the WII U about 2 months ago.
Only DSE did the fire sale. Others still charging more, although mightyape is doing 369 for a basic I think. I grabbed a Basic from DSE for my dad for $150.Kiwi here. Damn, I had no idea. Where can you get one at retail that isn't an EB Games? JB Hi-Fi?
No one said anything about NintendoYeah, pretty sure their 10+ billion cash reserve can help keep them afloat.
I know literally one person. Got it a week ago. One more person was going to get one but opted for the 3DS instead because "it has better games" (his words, though true)I still don't know anyone outside of a dev friend of mine who owns a Wii U. It's incredible.
Meanwhile, when Asda cut the price of Wii U by £100 three weeks ago, this resulted in just 250 extra console sales compared with the week previously. Amazon followed suit the following week, which caused a further 667 console sales. This shows that the price cut did have an impact, but were hardly talking big increases here.
Before anyone uses this as evidence that a price drop without games will of course not cause a lot of sales, how do you explain the 3DS in August 2011?
Maybe, just maybe, people don't think the Wii U is an appealing product, period?
Did we in Europe get the whole retailers cutting the price before the ambassador cut-off thing? If so there were 20 games (10 indefinitely exclusive). For free. But yeah, you can not compare a national price drop to retailers over a few days.Before anyone uses this as evidence that a price drop without games will of course not cause a lot of sales, how do you explain the 3DS in August 2011?
Post-purchase rationalisation won't allow such concession. In the minds of some owners, to accept that the product is not selling because it's simply not widely appealing seems like admission of some sort of mistake in their purchase.Maybe, just maybe, people don't think the Wii U is an appealing product, period?
Or maybe some owners KNOW how fantastic it feels to use a Wii U, and doubters will see the light when the right game for them comes out. Whether it's Wonderful 101, Mario 3D World, Bayonetta 2 or Smash Bros.Post-purchase rationalisation won't allow such concession. In the minds of some owners, to accept that the product is not selling because it's simply not widely appealing seems like admission of some sort of mistake in their purchase.
Thank you for providing a perfect example of someone who can't separate their own personal like for a product from it actually being a product offering well suited to the market.Or maybe some owners KNOW how fantastic it feels to use a Wii U, and doubters will see the light when the right game for them comes out. Whether it's Wonderful 101, Mario 3D World, Bayonetta 2 or Smash Bros.
Price drop probably won't do much then.
ASDA is not that big. Even in London there are few stores. I know it's owned by the same people as Walmart but it's nowhere near the Walmart of the UK.
What's the Walmart of the UK then?
It's not really the Walmart of the UK, but it's pretty damn big.ASDA is not that big. Even in London there are few stores. I know it's owned by the same people as Walmart but it's nowhere near the Walmart of the UK.
Other owners know that the console doesn't really have anything going for it and aren't surprised that the market at large have rejected and ignored it.Or maybe some owners KNOW how fantastic it feels to use a Wii U, and doubters will see the light when the right game for them comes out. Whether it's Wonderful 101, Mario 3D World, Bayonetta 2 or Smash Bros.
Or maybe some owners KNOW how fantastic it feels to use a Wii U, and doubters will see the light when the right game for them comes out. Whether it's Wonderful 101, Mario 3D World, Bayonetta 2 or Smash Bros.
What's not suited to the market is that you have to pay for a product with still little must have games. What you learn to know when you have a Wii U is how much enjoyable it is to use. The more must have games release, the more people on the fence will discover it. Reading you, one might think Wii U is not worth owning. But you don't have a Wii U so your experience with it and its potential could be more enlightened.Thank you for providing a perfect example of someone who can't separate their own personal like for a product from it actually being a product offering well suited to the market.
"See the light." Good grief.
What's the Walmart of the UK then?
What? I'd say it's Tesco.Waitrose.
What's not suited to the market is that you have to pay for a product with still little must have games. What you learn to know when you have a Wii I is how much enjoyable it is to use. The more must have games release, the more people on the fence will discover it. Reading you, one might think Wii U is not worth owning. But you don't have a Wii U so your experience with it and its potential could be more enlightened.
Proud owner of a PS3* and yet I can see the value the GamePad brings on top of it and, obviously, I see Wii U exclusives that make the product appealing for multi console gamers.Dude, you need to stop stating this stuff as fact as it simply isn't true. Although there will always be people that get a hands-on and really like the console, it's not a guarantee that some lightbulb will appear over everyone's head as they suddenly 'get it'.
May I ask if you ever owned a 360 or PS3? I feel as though that could affect how one perceived the Wii U.