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Microsoft Confirms 53MHz GPU Speed Upgrade For Xbox One
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Uhh, hardly.
Garrett 2U
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So much positive news coming out of Microsoft the past few weeks.
I can't wait to see what else they have in store for Gamescom.
I can't wait to see what else they have in store for Gamescom.
Klocker, give it a rest.
You don't even really know what you're talking about!
cyberheater
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What did the cboat thing say. I couldn't really understand it.
Yea. Sure buddy
12 Gb ram upgrade! All silliness aside I'm just hoping for more concrete details on everything and maybe a LIVE demo of the kinect UI features.
CambriaRising
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I am inclined to agree with him as you tried to say that ram was the only difference between the two on a previous page.
It's about messaging. They're trying to get people to associate the platform with tech since Sony has been eating their lunch in that regard for the past 6 months.
What they say isn't as important as the fact that they're saying something - anything, at all. It's a bet that most won't know what it means and won't know that PS4's GPU is still better - which is probably a pretty safe one.
SEGAvangelist
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It was vague to the point of not knowing if it's good news or bad news, and pointed to some sort of cancellation in response to a poster commenting about a lack of interest in non-gaming related apps.
They have not "announced" it.
BlastProcessing
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Thomas
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
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Thomas
Still not news worthy...
If it were over/under 100 or so then it MIGHT be worth talking about.
RoadHazard
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Once devs start getting into GPU compute for real you're gonna start seeing some things on PS4 which are not possible on XBO (at least not without a significant visual downgrade). Sony intentionally made the PS4 a bit "unbalanced", with more GPU compute units (and some other stuff) than it might have needed if all the GPU was going to do was conventional graphics work.
demosthenes
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What post #?
ThisWreckage
Banned
They should probably just go ahead and call this thing the 720 because the Xbox One that was announced in no way resembles then one we have now. They've backtracked, altered, and cut out so much of the philosophy and design that it is hilarious.
Zombie James
Banned
Well, have they ordered new APUs from AMD and switched to those or are they just overclocking what they have now? Overclocking is risky because GPUs are not all are created equally even when they're the same type, so MS is running a risk here even though it's only a 53MHz bump. It also still doesn't come close to matching what the PS4 offers. So, to me, it's a risky move without reward.
PanicFreak
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Exclusive developers. I got suckered into thinking that games on the most powerful system would look tons better than the other console and it turned out to be wrong.
Don't expect multiplatform games to look any different on the PS4 and Xbox One.
Would we be better off with it being the original non used/rental game playing system for the same price?
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The Everyman
kaz hirai.
Why do people think that determining the precise final clocks at this point of development (or more precisely, over the last months) cannot be something they planed all along?
Fine-tuning is something that you can only do at the final stage of development when the major architectural, engineering, and production decisions and outcomes are fixed.
Andronicus
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still blank staring at MS & all the last minute shit
ALBOFIGHTER
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I'm glad about the minor spec boost. Hopefully multiplatform games will be a little better. Ps4 all the way though
cboat AKA Phil Harrison.
ThisWreckage
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Why on Earth should I give Microsoft the benefit of doubt at this point?
CBOAT's, "stay Mad like mikelsen" was hilarious.
Possibly but that may be a ways off , similar to how long it took Cell spus to perform..
Possibly not seen at all in Multiplats for a while if at all.
Still does not negate my post saying applying a % or factor to the power difference is mental masturbation. As compared to conjecture of possible execution of an unknown closed system.
The console makers don't even know for sure what these things are completely capable of yet and will take a year or so until we know the whole picture.
God, I'll never understand why people compare the cost of an entire console, with controller, to the price of a graphics card that is equal to or greater than the price of said console.
Does it matter either way?
Dreams-Visions
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so that's like maybe 1 or 2fps? I'll take it.
Storm Chamber
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They are. =/
Because fine-tuning clock speeds at this stage of development is nothing extraordinary.
Zatoichi's Cane
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I bet folks at sony are just sitting back and laughing at the almost weekly Xbone announcements fixing this, reversing that.
Microsoft looks to be in shambles right now. The fact that they are even announcing this "upgrade" just reeks of desperation.
Sony hasn't had to play any of its cards, just sitting there quietly. I'm guessing as we get closer to the release date, they'll have some pleasant surprises for us.
I wouldn't be surprised that the entire executive team who dreamed of this cockamamie Xbone strategy to be fired after the launch.
Microsoft looks to be in shambles right now. The fact that they are even announcing this "upgrade" just reeks of desperation.
Sony hasn't had to play any of its cards, just sitting there quietly. I'm guessing as we get closer to the release date, they'll have some pleasant surprises for us.
I wouldn't be surprised that the entire executive team who dreamed of this cockamamie Xbone strategy to be fired after the launch.
Mine was a Pentium 200mhz with 64MB RAM in 1997. I eventually put a 12MB Voodoo II in it in 1999.
RoadHazard
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I absolutely do expect multiplatform games to look better on PS4. Not by any drastic amounts, but noticeably. Even if you're a dev who doesn't have the time to learn how to take full advantage of the extra compute stuff the PS4 can do, that additional performance is still there. Taking advantage of it, if only for some more refined effects or what have you, won't take much work. And that's not even counting the discrepancy in memory bandwidth, which isn't exactly impossible to figure out what to do with. If you can move a lot more data to the GPU each frame, why wouldn't you do anything with that? It doesn't have to take months of extra work, it will basically just be like cranking up a few settings in the game engine.
Also, GPU compute is gonna start happening a lot more everywhere over the next few years. It's not gonna be some exotic way of doing things for very long, but rather the standard. The days of GPUs only doing graphics work are coming to an end, and Sony seems to be more prepared for that shift than MS.
Not that it's actually impossible, but it seems ridiculously late. That basically says that the console isn't even in production yet, and they have ~3 months left.
But I guess that might explain it launching in a really small number of countries.
Chiaroscuro
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Mine was a 8MHz XT, later upgraded to a incredible 33MHz 386. Good times.
Gemüsepizza
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Baseless assumptions. We don't know where and why downgrades were made. I also expect those "downgrades" to hit the PC version. I suppose things like this happen because only a minority of PC gamers have GPUs like the GTX680, so they focus on a version that most PC players can play.
So you believe a 7850 OC is sufficient to run all nextgen games at the same fidelity as the PS4?
MMaRsu
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They weren't?
By announcing, you mean, mentioned in a podcast?
It's not like they're holding a press conference here.
Kazuma Kiryu
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You're claiming that people are doing "ego massages" by comparing the hardware, when you posted earlier that the only major difference between the consoles is that one uses ddr3 and the other gddr5.
That sounds "about right", if we ignore the difference in both gpu's, which isn't something easily ignored.
The time at which they randomly dropped this information during a podcast is not necessarily the time at which they decided on the final clocks. They almost certainly performed analyses during the last months, not just the last week. People forget that the leaked documents mentioning 800mhz are relatively old.
For people like me who like to know every small detail about the hardware it is newsworthy. Even if it barely impacts the experience when playing games.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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So does this make games better? Or is it just an upclock of a "possible" downclock but used as an upclock to sound good?
Zombie James
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I don't entirely disagree, but we're three months until November and Microsoft needs to start manufacturing and not making hardware changes at this point. For reference, the earliest manufactured 360 I could find was July 11th and it launched on November 20th.
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