ThaiGrocer
Member
I hope there's a way to share specific games while continuing to give up the entire library. If a kid wants to play Terraria and then goes for the Postal 2 option...
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Steam Announces Family Sharing
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Nabs
Member
Valve is prepping Kid Mode. Maybe that'll help?
Yes. Having us share digital games with friends was what everyone was mad about. smh.
Nabs
Member
Oh my goodness.
What scheme would you use to where people wouldn't gameshare plague the system to the point of crippling digital sales like PSN had with the 5 slot DRM?
The only thing I'd do is limit it to two people using the same library at the same time (the lender and one lendee; two different games), but even then I think that's just as powerful as Sony's "gameshare" problem was/is.
Spring-Loaded
Member
Pretty sweet.
only thing i would do is allow two people to play different games from the same library at same time. can't play same game at same time. anything else is just greedy.
Of course, this is a good first step to Valve maybe letting people give their copy of titles they no longer want away or let people borrow them. "Oh, you want to try Dirt 3? Here, and you can use this CD-key." (Of course, you can't do that with Games for Windows but in theory...)
Yeah, I edited that in just as you posted. That's probably the one thing I'd change since losing access to your library for sharing it is kinda shitty. You may want to play a different title from the person you're lending to but Valve doesn't allow that right now.
Yeah, I edited that in just as you posted. That's probably the one thing I'd change since losing access to your library for sharing it is kinda shitty. You may want to play a different title from the person you're lending to but Valve doesn't allow that right now.
No, I think everyone forgot that Ms announced that you'd be able to share digital games with other accounts on the same physical box.
This is the same thing as Steam just announced.
Or am I wrong?
People weren't outraged at that, it was the whole 24/7 connection needed to play single player games, was the main gripe; amongst a sea of other complaints.
Except MS's plan was to make that digital sharing a 24(?)-hour demo. That's what "you're conveniently forgetting," and "GAF" isn't.
MS's share plan was kinda bad from what was leaked. Add in the terrible DRM and it's not hard to see why people are kinda praising Valve (albit maybe a little too early/too soon to be praising) versus Microsoft.
I thought that was debunked. It was the whole game, for any of those ten different machines/accounts; the only restriction was that you couldn't play the same game at the same time.
And you could sell that digital game.
Yes, the always-online thing was a bad thing, and the 'authorized resellers' a nasty side-effect of being able to deauth used-up codes from disc purchases; literally everything else, as far as I can remember, was kind of amazing.
Silphonica
Banned
I have to laugh, now everyone gives a shit about this feature.
What a fucking crock of shit.
Edit:
The MS version wasnt demos.
and
You will have to check in online on steam for your playlist to operate. It's not said directly but it basically says if you play that game when your friend is playing it, he'll get knocked offline. It's just a standard for a feature like that, otherwise no-one would ever buy games again.
What a fucking crock of shit.
Edit:
The MS version wasnt demos.
and
You will have to check in online on steam for your playlist to operate. It's not said directly but it basically says if you play that game when your friend is playing it, he'll get knocked offline. It's just a standard for a feature like that, otherwise no-one would ever buy games again.
Syphon Filter
Member
another person who doesnt get it.
csquared587
Member
Why do people keep saying this? Were there a lot of people down on this specific feature for the Xbox One? If I remember right, its the feature everyone liked.
SephirothRK
Member
wow this is great.
Silphonica
Banned
Then I must have been reading different posts, because when all this was first announced, everyone did not give a flying fuck.
I realise it's not universally ideal. That's why I said it depends on the circumstances.
i dont like it
sure as a game player its pretty nice to have but if i was part of a game company or publisher this is basically a worse system than the used games system we have now
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It's the one thing people actively liked during the initial release of XB1.
I remember there were threads here stating that it was a good idea, or the one good thing Microsoft announced at E3 after the show. The issue was it was surrounded by the rest of the crap Microsoft were pushing at the time (Always Online, no used games etc), and later on the '1 hour demo' rumor dampered peoples excitement.
Probably because of all the other crap that overshadowed it like imposing digital restrictions onto physical copies of game media and the 24 hr check in requirement.
Marty Chinn
Member
ridethepiggy
Banned
Ugh. The sharing was liked by folks. It was the 24 hour online check/anti-used games that people hated. Steam has a fully working offline mode.
Sure. But again: What would you do that doesn't cut into/cannibalize sales like PSN gamesharing did? Going full-hog "retail-like" wouldn't solve that. Restricting it is the only thing that makes since because people would abuse it and it'd be worse on a digital system. The one thing I can see is that Valve uses this system as some way to evolve the service into
steamrolling for the total unintentional pun
Baby steps and all that.
I don't believe you are remembering the original Xbox One controversy correctly.
charlequin
Banned
If by "debunked" you mean "some guys from MS with every reason to make their parent company look good claimed with no evidence that it was full games but oops, we missed out by misbehaving!" then sure, I guess.
carbonbased
Member
boom. love it.
Sentenza
Member
I will make an attempt to become blood brother with a friend who has a press account and logs in on average once a week.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
This is a semi-dagger. I think (hope) they'll eventually change it so you can both play different games on the same library, otherwise it's going to be a total cluster-fuck trying to coordinate times if you're sharing with several people.
On another note, I'll be able to link the games from my old Steam acc to my new one which is pretty sweet.
Wait what? I can't play anything from your library if you're already playing??
Socially that makes the whole thing sound kinda terrible. Like going back to analogue modems and getting kicked offline when your mum picks up the phone.
I guess there's just too many holes in the system to let it work any other way.
Socially that makes the whole thing sound kinda terrible. Like going back to analogue modems and getting kicked offline when your mum picks up the phone.
I guess there's just too many holes in the system to let it work any other way.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Imagine doing it with 5 people, or 7, or the full 10. It would just be impossible to coordinate the times. You'd be getting interrupted often.
For now I'm thinking the best solution to this is only sharing with people in a completely opposite time zone. For example, I'm from the U.S. and could share with Aussies. They'll be asleep when I play their libraries and vice versa. Now to find some willing Aussies!
For offline i'm guessing that the owner of a library can go offline, but borrowers need to be online to see that library. And any time the owner goes offline, borrowers will no longer have access to that library until they come back online.
So for some situations the 'share a single account, use offline mode' will be more suitable - eg you play game X a lot, family member plays game Y a lot and there may be some overlap. Or for restricting access to certain games until they add parental controls, offline mode on your child's computer seems better
So for some situations the 'share a single account, use offline mode' will be more suitable - eg you play game X a lot, family member plays game Y a lot and there may be some overlap. Or for restricting access to certain games until they add parental controls, offline mode on your child's computer seems better
AdmiralPain
Banned
A neat feature, but one that still doesn't compare to the liberty afforded by a physical copy. I would much rather have the ability to share my library's games separately with a much smaller pool of users, say two or three.
Chairmanchuck
Member
I can see where you are coming from, but it is still possible for retail Games on the consoles.
I think its a neat feature for Games that you just finish once like Bioshock Infinite, Tomb Raider or Remember Me. If a friend has these, I can just finish them once and thats it. It is the same as I would borrow their disc from them.
Another great free feature to have so I don't think anyone can moan about it.
Saying that isn't this very similar to giving your family member your login credentials to use your Steam account? As when they start a game it locks out the entire library. I still think it is a fantastic option to have, probably something I would never use as my family members aren't all that into games but may come in handy in odd scenarios.
For people who already share accounts/games with friends and family it offers a lot more control over your library allow you to gain access to it if you fancy playing a game
Good on Steam for adding it, I don't think it helps me and the whole locking of library is a bit annoying if you were trying to share just one game but it is a bonus either way so I don't think I can moan about the limits of the system
Saying that isn't this very similar to giving your family member your login credentials to use your Steam account? As when they start a game it locks out the entire library. I still think it is a fantastic option to have, probably something I would never use as my family members aren't all that into games but may come in handy in odd scenarios.
For people who already share accounts/games with friends and family it offers a lot more control over your library allow you to gain access to it if you fancy playing a game
Good on Steam for adding it, I don't think it helps me and the whole locking of library is a bit annoying if you were trying to share just one game but it is a bonus either way so I don't think I can moan about the limits of the system
so true. lol