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PS4 UI demo at Hong Kong event

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
They haven't shown any different though and at this stage its seeming that what we've seen is what we're getting.

If there was any chance of something the PS4 could do to either match or beat XB1, we'd have seen a million articles and threads on it.

For all we know, the internet browser could be the only "app" (is it even an app in the same sense that a Netflix app is?) that can run concurrently (since its made by the people who built the OS), hence it being the only thing we've seen run concurrently.

Ah... :) This sounds so like some pre-Vita commentary. I'm not saying there'll be no limit to what you can or can't multitask, but the idea that 'if they don't show it, it means it doesn't work'...that doesn't persuade me. If that had been the case, Vita's OS wouldn't have worked either, as they closely guarded any real demonstration of it until it was in people's hands.
 

AmyS

Member
As long as it's fast and responsive, that's all I care about.

I'm guessing it could be much more likely that Sony will be able to free up more RAM for games/ game devs than it will for XBone with its THREE OSs and all-in-one features.

PS4 probably dedicates a smaller amount of GPU resources than Xbone as well.
 

Tsundere

Banned
isnt minimalistic at all eh..just telling u...

is this minimalistic

PS4UI.jpg



or this?
XboxOneUI.jpg


i think that jus tppl have confused idea about the design

Or this?

 

TheKayle

Banned
Design can be personal. I have some professional and personal design experience (never worked in the industry) and yes... i personally see this as minimalist. There is a great balance of used to un-used space (white space or air) and the font fits well with the weight of the lining. The background is muted and there are nice simple gradients that blend areas well.

i can tell you that one of the biggest law of the minimalist design is to work with flat colours....clearly we are talking about differents things....

ppl on here are confused between ergonomy (and i dont find submenu ergonomics at all) and design...


definitely the xb1 ui (or the metro one) is more ergonomic and minimalist
 
Ah... :) This sounds so like some pre-Vita commentary. I'm not saying there'll be no limit to what you can or can't multitask, but the idea that 'if they don't show it, it means it doesn't work'...that doesn't persuade me. If that had been the case, Vita's OS wouldn't have worked either, as they closely guarded any real demonstration of it until it was in people's hands.

I guess.

Given the huge buzz, I'm just surprised to have not even have seen or heard any leaks about it. I guess agent Harrison "working" for Microsoft this time around might have something to do with it ¬_¬
 
really, how come they don't advertise this like MS?

Same reason they don't advertise the Camera.

If your product is inferior, and you bring it to the spotlight, the media/press will naturally make comparisons with competitors. Especially in a critical period where they want the focus to be strictly 'games, games, games' and 'best console.'

It's the same logic that they apparently did not announce their VR headset. Muddying the message does no one any favours.
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
I guess.

Given the huge buzz, I'm just surprised to have not even have seen or heard any leaks about it. I guess agent Harrison "working" for Microsoft this time around might have something to do with it ¬_¬

You might end up being right, I don't know! But I'm optimistic after Vita's OS.

We'll find out for sure in a few days. Or earlier if Sony would just publish the manual online!
 
I guess.

Given the huge buzz, I'm just surprised to have not even have seen or heard any leaks about it. I guess agent Harrison "working" for Microsoft this time around might have something to do with it ¬_¬

Another thing about these kind of 'press stage demos' is that they're extremely scripted.

People demo-ing these features are basically doing it once a week around the world across different game events with different languages, they have scripts, translators, the flow of the feature sets all written down to the dot.

Last thing you'd want is for the Chinese translator to fuck up just because the Japanese demo dude decided to wing it and do something outside the original demo plan.
 

chubigans

y'all should be ashamed
i can tell you that one of the biggest law of the minimalist design is to work with flat colours....clearly we are talking about differents things....

ppl on here are confused between ergonomy (and i dont find submenu ergonomics at all) and design...


definitely the xb1 ui (or the metro one) is more ergonomic and minimalist

At the expense of having less info on the screen, or very badly managed space within the "metro" squares.

tFuIWYf.png


oBPsFZR.png


I reallllllllllllly don't like Metro.
 

Massa

Member
Same reason they don't advertise the Camera.

If your product is inferior, and you bring it to the spotlight, the media/press will naturally make comparisons with competitors. Especially in a critical period where they want the focus to be strictly 'games, games, games' and 'best console.'

It's the same logic that they apparently did not announce their VR headset. Muddying the message does no one any favours.

Actually, when your product is inferior and yet you still keep making comparisons with competitors, it seems that the gaming media's reaction is to brush it under the rug and label it as "not important".
 

Pennywise

Member
TheKayle is still at it..... Wow.

Never gonna give you up,
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry,
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

We've known each other for so long
Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it
Inside we both know what's been going on
We know the game and we're gonna play it
And if you ask me how I'm feeling
Don't tell me you're too blind to see
 

nynt9

Member
At the expense of having less info on the screen, or very badly managed space within the "metro" squares.

tFuIWYf.png


oBPsFZR.png


I reallllllllllllly don't like Metro.

The repeating monochrome patterns are just so bad. There's no saliency, and since you have 7+ items on screen at any time, saliency becomes a huge factor.
 

daveo42

Banned
Looks pretty clean and simple to me. I'm a huge fan of the XMB, so I like this evolution of the bar itself. Not a fan at the length of time it took Knack to load up its display info though. Hopefully that isn't/won't be an issue, but it's possible.

i think this should open the eyes of someone here...i repost !

windows media player

6a0120a85dcdae970b0128776ff9e8970c_zps2d3737c9.jpg


ps4

ps4-ui-hd-6.png


dat design!

Looks real similar to me. *eyeroll*
 

Goldrusher

Member
Why is everything together in the same screen?

Is it like a "recently opened" screen? Or is everything really thrown together now?


Like when you have this on PS3 today:
Code:
photo     |  audio      |   video       |  game       |  PSN       |  internet
 
- cats      - Katy Perry    - Netflix   - Knack      - friends    - webbrowser
- holiday   - Rihanna       - HULU      - NFS        - Store
- party                                 - ResoGun
                                        - Skylanders
                                        - Tiny Brains
                                        - Warframe


It will become this on PS4?
Code:
Store | Knack | cat | HULU | Rihanna | webbrowser | Tiny Brains | Warframe | Katy Perry | holiday | ResoGun | NFS | Netflix | Skylanders | party
 

Tsundere

Banned
the red one isnt an real screen of the xb1 ui

i think is old 1 year?

You really try too hard.

Why is everything together in the same screen?

Is it like a "recently opened" screen? Or is everything really thrown together now?


Like when you have this on PS3 today:
Code:
photo     |  audio      |   video       |  game       |  PSN       |  internet
 
- cats      - Katy Perry    - Netflix   - Knack      - friends    - webbrowser
- holiday   - Rihanna       - HULU      - NFS        - Store
- party                                 - ResoGun
                                        - Skylanders
                                        - Tiny Brains
                                        - Warframe


It will become this on PS4?
Code:
Store | Knack | cat | HULU | Rihanna | webbrowser | Tiny Brains | Warframe | Katy Perry | holiday | ResoGun | NFS | Netflix | Skylanders | party
No. There are separate sections still for different types of content.
 
cohesive really? theyve tossed some tiles on a page and called it a day.

The Xbox dash is very cohesive

Home_US_1P.jpg


The first thing selected is your most recent activity.
Your profile is one press to the left.
Right and down brings you to your collection
The 4 bottom tiles can be customized so all you have to do is press down once and your 4 most played games are right there.

Pins_US_1P.jpg


1 press of the left bumper brings you to 20 tiles you can customize to have all your games and/or apps.

Store_US_3P.jpg


1 press of the right bumper brings you to the store

Everything is a few button presses away. With Kinect its even easier to navigate because all you have to do is say Xbox, Play *Name of game* and you're off to the races. So the UI is very cohesive.
 

TheKayle

Banned
The Xbox dash is very cohesive

Home_US_1P.jpg


The first thing selected is your most recent activity.
Your profile is one press to the left.
Right and down brings you to your collection
The 4 bottom tiles can be customized so all you have to do is press down once and your 4 most played games are right there.

Pins_US_1P.jpg


1 press of the left bumper brings you to 20 tiles you can customize to have all your games and/or apps.

Store_US_3P.jpg


1 press of the right bumper brings you to the store

Everything is a few button presses away. With Kinect its even easier to navigate because all you have to do is say Xbox, Play *Name of game* and you're off to the races. So the UI is very cohesive.

ergonomic/well designed/fast/and with the wow factor ...i bet ms spent a lots of money/tests/time to develope metro....contrary to what ppl think
 

Goldrusher

Member
This is how I want my home screen to look.

Never has an OS been able to "predict" what program I'll use. A "recently used" section is totally useless to me.
Just show me what I have installed, neatly organised in categories.
 

lord pie

Member
I do like the black background on the xb1, makes the content pop a bit more. But obviously Sony's theme is now blue.

That said, I believe the list of major icons on the ps4 menu are sorted by when you last used them, which hopefully will mean after a few days you'll have your most used programs and games on screen when you boot - which is always nice :)

Hopefully it gets ported to Vita. Although that's just because I feel it's aesthetically dramatically better than the bubbles, usability is fine on Vita as it stands.

I would like to see how the store functions and the 'what's new' area too. Content discovery has never been Sony's strong point.
 
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