Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Pretty basic and a bit ugly. I'll take it if it works fast though. I like the XBO UI more, however.
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PS4 UI demo at Hong Kong event
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That's not a mockup! That's from the live demonstration at Gamescom.
Ludicrous Speed
Banned
Not in my opinion it's not! It's an antiquated UI on a next gen console.
awesomebro
Member
Yup. I wish there wasn't this trade off for hardware and software. Sony products besides phones have terrible UIs. Sometimes I wish they could just outsource it. MS has designed a box that can be personalized and is media oriented. This would help when there are game lulls. I just hope this current ps4 ui isn't and inflexible as the xmb
Agreed. I'm buying my machine primarily for the purpose of playing games. If I'm spending enough time in the UI to really care, I'm doing something wrong.
Also, now that I watched that video, I'm getting Allstate banner ads in what I'm guessing is Chinese.
Nightengale
Member
The thing about PS4's menu is that a lot of attention is put at its central UI, basically the part where we see tiles horizontally spread out with games, browser, etc.
It looks extremely sparsed and boring, mainly because it's pretty obvious that the central UI was designed in consideration of the bottom UI, where you select your games, and you see the dynamic game information pop up ( game achievements, stats, info, etc ).
TOP - the XMB-like menu, where you go to access all the misc. details like settings, trophies, friends. ( this part is fine )
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CENTER - the central UI, where a horizontal piece of tiles are laid out according to what you have ( this part, imo, is flawed because it's designed to be a slave to bottom UI, and looks extremely bland without going into games menu )
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BOTTOM - games UI, arguably the most beautiful part of the UI, where dynamic background kicks in by selecting the game, and we can hear the music change, the achievements pop up, and the background image change to the game.
Design-wise, I can see why Sony did things the way it did, because it has a logical process to it. However, by doing so, they made their CENTER look boring because the design priority was given to BOTTOM.
It looks extremely sparsed and boring, mainly because it's pretty obvious that the central UI was designed in consideration of the bottom UI, where you select your games, and you see the dynamic game information pop up ( game achievements, stats, info, etc ).
TOP - the XMB-like menu, where you go to access all the misc. details like settings, trophies, friends. ( this part is fine )
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CENTER - the central UI, where a horizontal piece of tiles are laid out according to what you have ( this part, imo, is flawed because it's designed to be a slave to bottom UI, and looks extremely bland without going into games menu )
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BOTTOM - games UI, arguably the most beautiful part of the UI, where dynamic background kicks in by selecting the game, and we can hear the music change, the achievements pop up, and the background image change to the game.
Design-wise, I can see why Sony did things the way it did, because it has a logical process to it. However, by doing so, they made their CENTER look boring because the design priority was given to BOTTOM.
TheSinkingKnight
Member
Same here. I don't care if the UI looked like the worst UI ever. As long as it's fast and the console can do everything, I'm quite fine with it.
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Deleted member 20920
Unconfirmed Member
And how the hell do you know that?
Artemis-Thoth
Member
UI is negligible, I'll be playing the games 99% of the time I'm on my PS4. I didn't see anything that bothered me, other than the Power icon being on the right instead of the left.
Other than personal preference over aesthetics, what has Sony "screwed up" about the UI in your mind?
EchoedTruth
Banned
All you metro loving, tablet loving, flat colour people need to just... ..fuck... seriously just fucking .,... god! stop.
ART
Pure motherfucking art.
Look at that shit, so goddamn good.
See my games? I can see in that screenshot it's FIVE clicks to the right.
For each click I do, it will get closer, confirming I'm on target.
See display settings? I can see in that screenshot it's FOUR clicks down
For each clcik I do it will animate closer, confirming I'm on target.
Both top bottom / left and right are HARD - they don't wrap around.
From muscle memory I know, EVEN WHEN MY TELEVISION IS OFF AND STILL WARMING UP.............. just scroll right right right right like 10 times (I'm definitely hard right) then press left left and I'm at my games. The TV doesn't even have to be goddamned on,.......... by the time it's warmed up, I can be at where I need to be.
The animation is minimal and simple - it's not intrusive
I can see more than 1 thing per page, jesus christ is that important
There's icons per page as well.
The XMB fucking decimates the Microsoft user interfaces, not because I'm a Sony fan, not because I'm buying a PS4, not "just because" - it decimates it due to better design, it's more logical, it's faster to work with yet still good to look at.
The XMB won awards and rightly so. It's almost all I could ask for in a basic UI - I'm sure it could be tweaked some but honestly, thank fucking fuck that Sony didn't lose their confidence and think "oh shit, maybe we too can replace the entire UI?!?" - they stuck with it and fucking huge kudos to them.
Long live the XMB.
I think you guys are misinterpreting the design. I wouldn't say its uninspired, but more of a minimalistic 'feng shui', design. I use windows 8.1 and metro makes me dizzy. Too many icons all up in my face. So, maybe the microsoft ui looks snazzier right now, but I guarantee you that it is not as functional as the Sony UI.
Insane Metal
Gold Member
Loved the XMB, loved the new UI, looks a lot like my Bravia's UI, so I approve.
Maninthemirror
Banned
Comparing xbox one UI with ps4 UI is like comparing the bing home page to google home page. Less is more
BruiserBear
Banned
Well for starters we have the list of features that are missing. STILL can't change your PSN ID, can't customize the background, can't sleep suspend/resume a game, no DLNA support, no MP3 or music CD support, etc, etc.
Those are all features that fall on the shoulders of the UI team.
But beyond the basic functionality, I personally see the design as amateur on so many levels, and I'm not even a student of design, but even I can tell this is not *right*. I'm sure actual students of UI design would find a long list of flaws. It's simply not pleasing to my eyes.
Banderas.gif with him looking at the XMB on his laptop.All you metro loving, tablet loving, flat colour people need to just... ..fuck... seriously just fucking .,... god! stop.
ART
Pure motherfucking art.
Look at that shit, so goddamn good.
See my games? I can see in that screenshot it's FIVE clicks to the right.
For each click I do, it will get closer, confirming I'm on target.
See display settings? I can see in that screenshot it's FOUR clicks down
For each clcik I do it will animate closer, confirming I'm on target.
Both top bottom / left and right are HARD - they don't wrap around.
From muscle memory I know, EVEN WHEN MY TELEVISION IS OFF AND STILL WARMING UP.............. just scroll right right right right like 10 times (I'm definitely hard right) then press left left and I'm at my games. The TV doesn't even have to be goddamned on,.......... by the time it's warmed up, I can be at where I need to be.
The animation is minimal and simple - it's not intrusive
I can see more than 1 thing per page, jesus christ is that important
There's icons per page as well.
The XMB fucking decimates the Microsoft user interfaces, not because I'm a Sony fan, not because I'm buying a PS4, not "just because" - it decimates it due to better design, it's more logical, it's faster to work with yet still good to look at.
The XMB won awards and rightly so. It's almost all I could ask for in a basic UI - I'm sure it could be tweaked some but honestly, thank fucking fuck that Sony didn't lose their confidence and think "oh shit, maybe we too can replace the entire UI?!?" - they stuck with it and fucking huge kudos to them.
Long live the XMB.
The XMB is woefully under-rated. It existed before the smartphone revolution and though I have no proof, arguably influenced the minimalist designs of Apple.
Gen.Grievous
Member
Yeah that looks like a mess. Works well as a touch screen but not with a controller.
Louis Cyphre
Banned
The camera was not able to auto-sign the user, I wonder if they will be able to simply update the software? Other than that it looks pretty good as long as it's quick and easy to navigate to all your content and settings quickly, especially within the store.
Nightengale
Member
Now, if you look at the game menu above, it's quite nicely designed. It pops out with visuals and sounds pertaining to the game, and information is densely populated across the screen with little wasted page.
Now, the problem is that the UI was designed giving priority to this, above everything else. This was clearly what Sony wanted their UI impression to be.
However, it's practically impossible to have this UI be the centerfront of the interface, because that would mean a very distracting UI that constantly changes the moment you move from one game to another.
This is where Sony made the poor design choice to accomodate BOTTOM with a sparsely placed CENTER, where the positioning of the game info of BOTTOM is maintained at CENTER, but without everything else that makes the UI more dense.
This! Really the only next Gen UI feature I was really wanting. Cause it directly related to games and that's what I'll be doing....Playing games not the interface.
Dude, it's letterboxed, in a box. It's terrible looking.
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Deleted member 80556
Unconfirmed Member
No, the fact that it has advertisements makes it bad. The good thing is that they're allowing modification to the background and tile colors, so they have that.
I hope that the PS4's next update allows modification, but definitely not because I hate blue, just because I like black a little more.
Anuson.Phan
Banned
The xb1 ui got this beat but so long as they let us use live themes like on ps3,i can't complain.
Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
This. I hate metro with the fire of a thousand suns. Xbone reminds me if people that go overboard with rainmeter(?) on their xp machines. I don't need to have all those options and buttons in my face all the time. I need something simple and sleek.
Do you really believe the decision to not support mp3 was made by the ui team
Yeah I'm not sure why the PSN ID Change would be handled by the UI team either.
BruiserBear
Banned
Well, upon second thought, maybe not. Strike that if you want.
H_Prestige
Banned
Meh, ps3 XMB looks better. I like the music and sound effects though. Would be nice if they updated the ps3 with that.
gamechanger87
Member
Just feels blah. Really hoped that they would do something to add a little flash to it.
While a lot of us on here say they love the minimalist design, its really boring. Feels like the PS3 XMB with a few add ins.
While a lot of us on here say they love the minimalist design, its really boring. Feels like the PS3 XMB with a few add ins.
I've seen this complaint a lot and I don't get it. Who is spending so much time looking at the UI of any device that they absolutely need to put their personal spin on it? I'm saying this not to challenge but really out of ignorance because to me, this is a non-issue.
TheCanisDirus
Member
This... so much this. It really does have that "ad widget-meets-trendy-sans-serif-hipster-minimus" feel going on. XMB is a great, simple UI.
I don't think you know what the UI team is responsible for.
Nobody needs to, but after the war ps3 custom dynamic themes and the ability to have different wallpapers for each page in vita, it is very disappointing not to be able to customize my background as I wish. Especially since I can on the other Sony platforms.
There's a reason they won an Emmy for the XMB.
I guess I can see that. My Vita and PS3 both have the default background on both.
I wonder if the reason they didn't include it with PS4 is that it seems like the background changes depending on what you're navigating to. If you're on a game's "page", the background changes to match and will cover whatever your custom background would be. Maybe they're expecting you to not spend much time in what would be the customizable sections
Xbox one has an activity feed, also has. Statistics of how many people is playing what game.
show this to a famous graphic designer and will insult who did it..for the rest of his life
Most of those things, as already pointed out by others, really have nothing to do with UI. So your personal insights on how "amateur" the UI really is, suddenly become very hollow. Why can't you guys ever just say "this thing doesn't appeal to my tastes" instead of trying to turn your personal preference into market-defining dogma?
You don't seem to have any actual arguments to contribute to this thread and yet you keep posting.