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I am 1 of the 2.1 million that is a satisfied customer.

 

[TheRealTalker]

Dayum we knew but still

East Asia and Middle East GAF it is now your turn
Get closer to the 3 million prediction for the end of this year

 

[leadbelly]

I expected the EU sales figures to be higher. They stated they had over a million preorders in Europe, but didn't actually sell that many.

Also, it was claimed that 250,000 PS4s were sold in the UK alone. So that would mean a third of all PS4s sold in Europe were in the UK?

 

[velvet_nitemare]

Dayum we knew but still

East Asia and Middle East GAF it is now your turn
Get closer to the 3 million prediction for the end of this year

They will easily pass 3 million once they resupply NA and EU.

 

[Minions]

I expected the EU sales figures to be higher. They stated they had over a million preorders in Europe, but didn't actually sell that many.

Also, it was claimed that 250,000 PS4s were sold in the UK alone. So that would mean a third of all PS4s sold in Europe were in the UK?

They likely did not ship enough consoles to fulfill all preorders.... I think some people have preordered in the USA and still not received a console... some are "preorders" to be received before Christmas. I know Walmart was running that promo.

 

[Triple U]

I expected the EU sales figures to be higher. They stated they had over a million preorders in Europe, but didn't actually sell that many.

Also, it was claimed that 250,000 PS4s were sold in the UK alone. So that would mean a third of all PS4s sold in Europe were in the UK?

They never gave location specific preorder details. It was always WW,

 

[Brohan]

I expected the EU sales figures to be higher. They stated they had over a million preorders in Europe, but didn't actually sell that many.

Also, it was claimed that 250,000 PS4s were sold in the UK alone. So that would mean a third of all PS4s sold in Europe were in the UK?

Alot of pre orders were for the second batch.

 

[Suzushiiro]

I expected the EU sales figures to be higher. They stated they had over a million preorders in Europe, but didn't actually sell that many.

Also, it was claimed that 250,000 PS4s were sold in the UK alone. So that would mean a third of all PS4s sold in Europe were in the UK?

1 million pre-orders with less than 1 million sold implies that they sold out and didn't ship enough to satisfy all 1 million pre-orders, not that a bunch of people pre-ordered and then decided they didn't want one.

Like everyone's been saying, PS4/XBone sales in the first few months will be determined more by supply than demand.

 

[Portugeezer]

3 million before 2014 possible? 5 million by March is looking more and more doable.

1 million pre-orders with less than 1 million sold implies that they sold out and didn't ship enough to satisfy all 1 million pre-orders, not that a bunch of people pre-ordered and then decided they didn't want one.

That's true. People with pre-orders are still waiting for the next batch.

 

[DrM]

I expected the EU sales figures to be higher. They stated they had over a million preorders in Europe, but didn't actually sell that many.

There are TONS of people with open preorders that will get their consoles in December all over Europe. Some more unfortunate ones will have to wait till January.

 

[krypt0nian]

When no one was looking, Sony
sold 2.1 million cakes. They sold 2.1 million cakes.
That’s as many as two hundred and ten thousand tens.
And that’s terrible.

 

[leadbelly]

They likely did not ship enough consoles to fulfill all preorders.... I think some people have preordered in the USA and still not received a console... some are "preorders" to be received before Christmas. I know Walmart was running that promo.

Could be that, yeah.

They never gave location specific preorder details. It was always WW,

No, they did at Gamescom

 

[vcc]

No, its still 16 modules, which is a fairly common count amongst mid-level GPUs and up. High end cards can use up to 32.

High end cards are more about prestige, volume is made up of value cards (mid-level). ~$200.

Sony is still consuming a large fraction of the higher density modules. Even titans only have 6GB.

 

[Sulik2]

I bought and resold three, I did my part.

 

[Jomjom]

Am I crazy or is anyone else kind of disappointed with the worldwide numbers? I was thinking they would sell about 3 million (or I guess what I'm saying is I had thought that they would be able to produce 3 million).

 

[Dawg]

Good numbers, although the low stock in EU is showing. Could have been much more, but yeah there's only so much you can produce before the deadline.

 

[Astroroot]

I find it amazingly refreshing that:

1) Sony's announcing sales numbers again outside of financial reports.
2) Sony isn't lumping PS3 and PS4 numbers together.

I wonder why there's the sudden change in policy? </sarcasm>

 

[socialQ]

yup, this hit facebook

Well done sony. Gangbusters. Next gen is theirs.

#4theplayers.

 

[Elor_Nocudee]

Great number's there Sony, my household contributed two PS4 sales to that NA total.

 

[Triple U]

Could be that, yeah.


No, they did at Gamescom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCkC6NGkS0Y
01:40:00
House at GC:

The response that we have received has been nothing short of incredible. You have made it clear that you&#8217;re excited about the platform with more than one million preorders worldwide.

High end cards are more about prestige, volume is made up of value cards (mid-level). ~$200.

Sony is still consuming a large fraction of the higher density modules. Even titans only have 6GB.

You're not understanding. There are multiple densities of GDDR5, but they ship in about three configurations of 8,16 or 32 modules. 16 being the most common among discrete GPUs. PS4 uses 16 in a clamshell. Even selling at a Wii pace, Sony would hover somewhere under 15% of the total market for GDDR

 

[Almighty]

Great number. I hope Sony can keep it up I would love for them to dominate this gen with the Ps4.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Good for them.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

You're not understanding. There are multiple densities of GDDR5, but they ship in about three configurations of 8,16 or 32 modules. 16 being the most common among discrete GPUs. PS4 uses 16 in a clamshell. Even selling at a Wii pace, Sony would hover somewhere under 15% of the total market for GDDR

Your joking Sony is going to have way more than 15% of the total market .
Sony just sold 2 million PS4 that means they already use 320 million GDDR5 chips
Also 16 is not the most common in GPUs because most GPUs don't have 8GB of ram Sony uses the latest 4Gbits chips.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

Bu-Bu-Bu Black Friday Bunduru!!

No, it's the Brack Friday Bunduru. It's the only thing that could possibly lead to this type of result, but do you know what you get for pre-ordering a game? Do you?

Let's just say that 2.1 million is a lot of mouths to feed.

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/11/south-park-pre-order-doesnt-mean-st/

These episodes are killing me. I can't wait for the rest.

 

[Raist]

Also, it was claimed that 250,000 PS4s were sold in the UK alone. So that would mean a third of all PS4s sold in Europe were in the UK?

Well yeah. The UK is about a third of the EU market in general terms. They most likely prioritized it as well, considering that's the only country in EU where the PS3 didn't outsell the 360.

 

[leadbelly]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCkC6NGkS0Y
01:40:00
House at GC:

Yeah. I was wrong about that. Although, I wasn't entirely basing it on that announcement. I remember watching an interview (I think it was Jim Ryan) and he stated in it that those figures were really conservative and that it was about that number in Europe. I think I was reading too much into it.

I have no idea what interview it was now, been trying to find it.

 

[Dragonborn]

I find it amazingly refreshing that:

1) Sony's announcing sales numbers again outside of financial reports.
2) Sony isn't lumping PS3 and PS4 numbers together.

I wonder why there's the sudden change in policy? </sarcasm>

And you can bet MS will start lumping things into "Xbox Family" or not announcing anything at all. All companies do this dude.

 

[Hoodbury]

So wait, does this include the 1 sale in Brazil or not? Kinda important.

 

[Respawn]

Via PS Awards stream just now.

http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps-awards/

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/12/03/ps4-global-sales-update/



http://scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/131203b_e.pdf

Bless the mofo chips.

 

[Pain]

Vita sold 2.1 units during that same time frame.

Huh? I don't think so.

 

[Rad-]

Nice numbers. I just ordered mine. First I thought about waiting for the first price drop but then I found a deal that gave 50€ discount on PS4 and that's a sort of price drop right there. I have to wait till January though for it to ship but I'm not in any rush.

 

[Pain]

Spetacular, but apparently PS4 sales after launch in US are very poor.

NPD november may surprise because XOne was more available on Black Friday.

Sales are limited by supply.

It is cheaper now, this can change.

No, it can't change. By the time Microsoft cuts their price, Sony won't be far behind it undercutting them again. Xbone will always be more expensive than PS4 as long as Kinect is included in the box.

I expected the EU sales figures to be higher. They stated they had over a million preorders in Europe, but didn't actually sell that many.

Also, it was claimed that 250,000 PS4s were sold in the UK alone. So that would mean a third of all PS4s sold in Europe were in the UK?

False. Sony never claimed EU pre-orders were above 1million.

The only pre-order figure we ever received was 1 million+....worldwide.

I find it amazingly refreshing that:

1) Sony's announcing sales numbers again outside of financial reports.
2) Sony isn't lumping PS3 and PS4 numbers together.

I wonder why there's the sudden change in policy? </sarcasm>

We got an sales figures for US and for EU launches. Don't expect weekly updates.

 

[Triple U]

Your joking Sony is going to have way more than 15% of the total market .
Sony just sold 2 million PS4 that means they already use 320 million GDDR5 chips
Also 16 is not the most common in GPUs because most GPUs don't have 8GB of ram Sony uses the latest 4Gbits chips.

There's 400 million plus GPUs sold a year. AMD and Nvidia make up about 35 percent of that, roughly 140 million. The vast majority of their best selling GPUs feature GDDR5. Say that 120 million of those GPUs are GDDR5 enabled, if Sony sold PS4s at a 20 million a year pace, that would still be only ~17%. Mind you that's a very rough estimate that 1) puts PS4 at a ridiculous rate that it won't sell near and 2) leaves out the entire market beyond AMD/Nvidia for GDDR5.

And it's because Sony uses the latest 4Gb modules that they can use 8 GBs in the clamshell. GDDR5 scales all the way to 512Mb.

PS4 is a pretty small fish in GDDR5s pool, which was there years before the PS4. The notable thing would be that Sony is among the first to use the newest density chips not the volume of chips they are using.

 

[Boombloxer]

What? Halo 4 is 8+ million. He's not right with his statement either, but he's closer than you are. Christ, even ODST is above GoW levels.

Link por favor, Halo 4's online has been dead forever. Also, even so, the overall point stands. GT is the big one for Sony, Halo is for MS. All of the other franchises have sales on par with each other.

 

[leadbelly]

False. Sony never claimed EU pre-orders were above 1million.

The only pre-order figure we ever received was 1 million+....worldwide.

Yes. I already stated it was wrong.

As I said though, I remember watching an interview, in which someone (may have been Jim Ryan) stated the figure Andrew House gave was really conservative and that it was around 1 million in Europe. However, looking for it, I noticed other interviews where he wouldn't give a figure, only that demand was very high.

I don't really know what I am looking for now, I watched dozens of interviews back then, I just know it was in a video. Not that it matters because it could have been just speculation. Not sure now exactly how he phrased it.

 

[Pain]

Link por favor, Halo 4's online has been dead forever. Also, even so, the overall point stands. GT is the big one for Sony, Halo is for MS. All of the other franchises have sales on par with each other.

He's probably using

Spoiler

vg chartz.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

There's 400 million plus GPUs sold a year. AMD and Nvidia make up about 35 percent of that, roughly 140 million. The vast majority of their best selling GPUs feature GDDR5. Say if 120 million of those GPUs are GDDR5 enabled, if Sony sold PS4s at a 20 million a year pace, that would still be only ~17%. Mind you that's a very rough estimate that 1) puts PS4 at a ridiculous rate that it won't sell near and 2) leaves out the entire market beyond AMD/Nvidia for GDDR5.

And it's because Sony uses the latest 4Gb modules that they can use 8 GBs in the clamshell. GDDR5 scales all the way to 512Mb.

You are wrong 400 million GPUs don't get sell per year with GDDR5 .
Where are you getting your numbers from ?

 

[Triple U]

You are wrong 400 million GPUs don't get sell per year with GDDR5 .
Where are you getting your numbers from ?

I broke the numbers down, did you stop at the first sentence or something?

Numbers come from jon peddie

http://jonpeddie.com/press-releases...ts-levels-for-the-quarter-quarter-to-quarter/

 

[Boombloxer]

He's probably using

Spoiler

vg chartz.

Well, if that's the case, then never mind. Either way, point still stands.

It's true. By the end of III Kratos killed every god including Zeus and was, more or less, dead himself. People are tired of his constant moodiness, and there is no more reason for it either. Where does the story go from there? More prequels? We've seen where that road leads. Trying to make up some reason for Kratos to soldier on? Difficult and unlikely. Change lead character? Perhaps, but then people will be pissed. This is a story dead end. Not insurmountable but difficult to surmount.

This isn't even difficult really. Even though I'm ready for a new protagonist, if they wanted to keep Kratos and have him restore the world he destroyed while fighting a new pantheon of gods, I'd be up for it. He did give hope to the world, after all.

R2 is a story dead end example, where the main character is shot in the face and Earth is somewhere else, the Chimera have basically won. Then why fight? Then comes R3 with "So there's this tower in NY..."

Kratos being ambiguously alive/dead is an easier problem to solve because they left it open.

 

[jelly]

I can't find anything near that either. It was at 4 million last december, and as of july there was this:

Microsoft has declared Halo 4 as MS Studios best-selling title ever in the US.

The company announced that 343 Industries’ franchise entry has bested Halo 3 “for sales during each respective launch year,” – meaning the game has surpassed its predecessor in terms of launch year sales, but not yet in total sales.

In related news, Major Nelson has announced 'The Halo 4 Global Championship' planned for later this summer. It will be made up of live and online events, and promises to boast $500k in prizes – with $200k of that set aside for the tournament winner alone.

The worldwide event kicks-off at this weekend's Rooster Teeth Expo in Austin, with play-offs beginning July 15 on Xbox Live.

Since Halo 3 sold about 8 million, it's safe to say Halo 4 isn't anywhere near that yet.

That bolded part is key. Not the best selling Halo. Launch year which isn't surprising considering the increased Xbox 360 user base.

In the first 24 hours of its release, Halo 4 made more than $220 million worldwide, eclipsing the record for the biggest-day one opening in US box office history. The figure is also bigger than the 24 hour totals for Halo 3 and Halo Reach, which made $200 million and $170 million, respectively.

The game also smashed the record for the largest number of players in the history of the Halo franchise, with over 4 million players in the first five days.

Microsoft revealed the Halo franchise has now sold more than 50 million copies worldwide. Prior to the launch of Halo 4 Microsoft said Halo franchise sales stood at over 46 million.

Considering the online numbers dropped ridiculously fast I doubt Halo 4 is rocketing to Halo 3 sold numbers.

 

[FalsettoVibe]

That is insane.

 

[Celine]

Hell, some were even doubting PS4 would ever become reality.

Oh god, I remember that thread.
I got banned for the first and only time in there since I express how stupid the whole premise was.

In before being banned again for talking a about a ban.

 

[zomgbbqftw]

That bolded part is key. Not the best selling Halo. Launch year which isn't surprising considering the increased Xbox 360 user base.



Considering the online numbers dropped ridiculously fast I doubt Halo 4 is rocketing to Halo 3 sold numbers.

Halo 4 was more front loaded and had worse word ofmouth than Halo 3 which was uuniversally praised by fans, casuals and the press alike.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

I broke the numbers down, did you stop at the first sentence or something?

Numbers come from jon peddie

http://jonpeddie.com/press-releases...ts-levels-for-the-quarter-quarter-to-quarter/

Your break down makes no sense because you oversimplified it .
How many 2GB GPU were ship or how many 6GB GPU were ship all of those are factors you have to think about .
Then you also have to think which chips there are using because Sony would never care about 2Gbits .
Which matters if you want to talk about demand of certain chip and prices .

 

[God Dayumm]

So wait, does this include the 1 sale in Brazil or not? Kinda important.

That 1 sale could determine who wins this generation and therefore the direction gaming will take into next gen.

 

[Deku Tree]

Crazy crazy numbers.

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

That 1 sale could determine who wins this generation and therefore the direction gaming will take into next gen.

Praise Entei.

 

[TrojanBlade]

I wonder if Vita also got some boost because of the remote playing on PS4. Probably not a lot but a little?

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-12-03-sony-expected-to-ship-1m-ps4s-per-month

According to the article (posted earlier in the thread), half of the incoming PS4's will be going to Gamestop. I would have exepected Walmart to get half. How odd.

 

[beast786]

2.1 pleaseeeeeeeee

50million hours is so bigger than 2.1m