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Tomb Raider Definitive Edition - PlayStation 4 = ~60fps, Xbox One = ~30fps
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FunkyLounge
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This has gone absolutely insane.
The only really bad thing is that if 30 and 60 are the average framerates, than the XBO version could have serious immersion breaking dips. It would be better to just turn off some the additional physics or scale down few textures to ensure framerate staying above 25 all the time.
Gameplay should always come first, especially in an action game like this.
But then again, it's just my opinion.
The only really bad thing is that if 30 and 60 are the average framerates, than the XBO version could have serious immersion breaking dips. It would be better to just turn off some the additional physics or scale down few textures to ensure framerate staying above 25 all the time.
Gameplay should always come first, especially in an action game like this.
But then again, it's just my opinion.
Please tell me, what is better: 30 or 60 pages?
silver.tongue
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You can't afford a 1080p TV and yet you bought the most expensive console?
I don't understand this logic. Why not get the cheaper one?
Edge_Maverick
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LMAO
Are you saying that developers will intentionally gimp PS4 ports down to XB1 levels to avoid pissing off MS?
Can you imagine the shitstorm the developer would face if this was ever proven to be true?
SEGAvangelist
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Well I've thought about this more and I see this as nothing but positive news. While this news provides more fuel to the current console war, it also means XB1 owners get a great looking 1080p game with a solid frame rate and PS4 owners get an even smoother playing version at 60fps. Both consoles are getting better than their respective console norms in the performance category and this means we may see similar performance in a Tomb Raider sequel.
I would like to see this trend continue, as BigDug wrote earlier. I think targeting 1080p 30fps on XB1 for games of this type is preferable over any other option because it means the XB1 version maintains high fidelity visuals and the PS4 version will likely be smoother and feel a bit better (unless more effects are added for that version.) Both versions end up looking great and playing well with the PS4 version still taking advantage of the hardware difference. Crystal Dynamics made the right call here.
I would like to see this trend continue, as BigDug wrote earlier. I think targeting 1080p 30fps on XB1 for games of this type is preferable over any other option because it means the XB1 version maintains high fidelity visuals and the PS4 version will likely be smoother and feel a bit better (unless more effects are added for that version.) Both versions end up looking great and playing well with the PS4 version still taking advantage of the hardware difference. Crystal Dynamics made the right call here.
No, I'm saying developers will likely use the extra power in the PS4 to make the game look better instead of keeping the framerate higher. At least, that's what I think is most likely.
He already said his brain is too slow and his decision to buy one over the other was a no brainer.
Stop rubbing your intellectual superiority in!
Freedom = $1.05
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30 pages with the feel of 60 pages
This is like being upset that multiple different phones come out every year and companies try and sell each despite some being inferior to others. You can't think of other industries that do this because you're choosing to ignore them.
moltonasty
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Ouch, $100 less for double the performance.
What happened to that Great Powerful Cloud?
Honestly though, 30 fps is not bad for this game. On the PC version, without TressFX, it would run around 60 fps for me, and sometimes over 60 fps. And actually it was TOO fast for me. It kinda made me dizzy and nauseous. But with TressFX on it went down to around 30 fps, which didn't make me feel sick.
Still I do understand 60 fps is preferable for most people, so yeah this is kind of a big deal.
What happened to that Great Powerful Cloud?
Honestly though, 30 fps is not bad for this game. On the PC version, without TressFX, it would run around 60 fps for me, and sometimes over 60 fps. And actually it was TOO fast for me. It kinda made me dizzy and nauseous. But with TressFX on it went down to around 30 fps, which didn't make me feel sick.
Still I do understand 60 fps is preferable for most people, so yeah this is kind of a big deal.
qa_engineer
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I'm with you, man. Sounds like some PC elitists came in with micrometers to measure penis size, then PS4 fans were like "nuh uh." And then Xbox fans were like "30 FPS is better for storytelling." Also Brick killed a guy with a trident.
Boogalogist
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I go off for a few hours and this thread just derailed and exploded. WTF just happened in here?
BotoxAgent
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has Tim Dawg said anything yet?
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Is this our friend Bud?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps7q7TykxAI
Same argument, exactly the same analogy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps7q7TykxAI
Same argument, exactly the same analogy.
PJV3
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Most people are just messing about, it's working out which ones aren't that is half the fun.
badcrumble
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Did this thread actually have people making the claim that 30fps is better for storytelling? I thought low-framerate-GAF had been sent packing long ago.
Platinum_D
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Ouch the truth.. that is a big ass gap
qa_engineer
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Going to be wild? Did you not notice that the thread is already in the 60 page range? Shit got real in this thread 59 pages ago.
Hi.
You may notice a lot of gray names in this thread. They were largely people who thought this was a good place to fight about PC/PS4, rather than discuss the topic of the thread. They also include the people who brought up the PC in the first place.
So, some advice for the continuing thread:
1) Stay on subject.
2) Control your impulse to engage in console warrior silliness.
3) Quit discussing moderation, meta discussions, PC vs. PS4, etc.
This is the second time you've been warned. We have more gray pixels, if that's what it takes.
You may notice a lot of gray names in this thread. They were largely people who thought this was a good place to fight about PC/PS4, rather than discuss the topic of the thread. They also include the people who brought up the PC in the first place.
So, some advice for the continuing thread:
1) Stay on subject.
2) Control your impulse to engage in console warrior silliness.
3) Quit discussing moderation, meta discussions, PC vs. PS4, etc.
This is the second time you've been warned. We have more gray pixels, if that's what it takes.
Pai Pai Master
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Those people will never truly go away.
They will continue to pop up throughout the gen every time this happens with a multiplat game (often).
Thank you for the detailed answer, sounds great!
silver.tongue
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lol, I guess you're right... my bad.
plagiarize
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unfortunately people spouting this stuff (or claiming they can't tell the difference) are still a thing.
I have no problems with people that don't care about the difference, but they exist, and a game running at 60 fps controls better than that same game running at 30 fps. IE play better.
This upsets a lot of people who have lashed themselves to a particular console. They say something like 'if you want better framerates you should be gaming on PC anyway so why do you act like you care about framerates because obviously if you'd have already played this on PC' and then crazy people from the PC crowd stop by to tell us all how their PC which only cost $600 ran this game at 60 fps and 1440p with all the settings on high...
which is... well nonsense.
most Xbox One owners are sane. most PS4 owners are sane. most PC owners are sane. for the record. crazy PS4 owners are harder to spot when the facts favor them, but you can still pick them out in this thread. they're the ones saying things like 'PC gaming is redundant if you can play this game at 1080p and 60fps on a $400 console'.
There's plenty of entertaining crazy to go around.
This game still generally runs at 60 fps on PS4 and at 30 fps on Xbox One. The type of PC required to run Tomb Raider at equivalent settings as on PS4, due to all sorts of things, costs a lot more than $400, but still offers all sorts of other benefits like being able to choose whether you want to favour graphics, IQ or performance in instances where you can't have all 3.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
I would edit this quickly. Look above you.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
It's actually a very good game. My only problem with the PS3 version is the slightly tepid colouring but that's been rectified in the PS4 version.
Shin-Ra
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Did they? I thought most of the hardware reviews glossed over the rendering spec difference and we had a few weeks buildup of playing down large resolution and AA differences.
I have zero fun trying to figure out who is joking around or not.
So this thread is now the PS4 version?
That's great to hear, a couple of friends who have played it also have said great things as well.
Yup. Always think of MGS2 as being the first recognizable 60fps experience for me.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
I bet you been sat there all night waiting for the opportunity to write that.
It's the PC version since it's heavily modded.
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