Sapiens
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In spite of all the alleged diddling, I'm kind of shocked studios still give mega-money to Singer to makes movies.
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Bryan Singer (X-Men, Usual Suspects) accused of sexually abusing underage boy
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In spite of all the alleged diddling, I'm kind of shocked studios still give mega-money to Singer to makes movies.
Son of Cervantes
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No offense, but he's entitled to his thoughts.
Squiddy hes not exactly got a great reputation. Serious shady shit
As Squiddy is entitled to his.
I disagree.
SquiddyCracker
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I disagree with you then.
People are jelly then, besides, what does someone's reputation matter?
Guilt should not be determined on the basis of someone's reputation. It should be determined in a court, where the accused is allowed a chance to defend themselves from the accusation on as close to neutral grounds as there could be.
But I guess people just love their fucking gossip to death, consequences be fucking damned.
I agree with this
User 100115
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One thing I am wondering: why the hell is everyone talking about the kids age when, if the allegations are true, what Singer did would be rape even if the dude was 50?
Unless something has changed in the past 24 hours, apologies, but what I read yesterday was allegations of forcible rape, drugged rape, and rape that started when the victim was 15.
So again...
Why the fuck is the fact that the victim might be of consenting age in some places even being discussed?
Unless something has changed in the past 24 hours, apologies, but what I read yesterday was allegations of forcible rape, drugged rape, and rape that started when the victim was 15.
So again...
Why the fuck is the fact that the victim might be of consenting age in some places even being discussed?
benjipwns
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No guilt will be determined in this case, this is a civil suit not a criminal case.
Thunder Monkey
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Yeah... I like a lot of Singers work, but if this stuff is true (and the gossip in the thread gives me inklings it is) I'll judge and harshly.
That's about all I have to say. If true the dude is a freaking sleazy rapist.
I'll still like his work. But I can still do that while finding him bugnuts crazy and harmful to society.
That's about all I have to say. If true the dude is a freaking sleazy rapist.
I'll still like his work. But I can still do that while finding him bugnuts crazy and harmful to society.
Stalemate
I think the lack of proof plays into that a bit. I can't see it being proven one way or the other, but the other stuff like age and how often they met is provable.
If Singer did that, then it is clearly rape and I don't think anyone has disputed that. Well, I hope they haven't.
Son of Cervantes
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Doubt he'll get to direct X-Men Apocalypse now.
This is what I'm confused about too, people bringing up the same stupid old arguments about region age legitimacy when the bigger issue is abuse and rape.
PhoenixDark
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If there were pictures of me hanging around with underage girls, giving them drugs, and years worth of rumors of me having an obsession with them, I'd hire a good lawyer.
Thunder Monkey
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Some like em young.
It's the lack of empathy over the rape allegations that irk me.
seriously. Very sad gaffers, pretty dissapointing!
Even worst. Some of them are more worried about a fucking movie.
that too SMH
Thunder Monkey
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It's because some of them get hung up over the pedophile being described as someone attracted to anyone under the federal age of consent.
Don't worry guys, no one is judging you for occasionally flirting with the 16 year old check out boy/girl at your local grocery.
You're not giving them molly and raping them. Singer potentially is. So screw that little piece of shit. Don't do that and you'll be golden GAF.
But please just drop the age of consent arguments. Neither here nor there in this thread.
Brianimaniac
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Where does your idea that "court = truth" come from?
Are you aware that guilty people can get off and that innocent people can be wrongly convinced? OJ Simpson, son.
This is also a civil suit, not a criminal trial.
benjipwns
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Yeah, but what if like they accuse me of that? If we focus on the real issue, getting rid of age of consent laws, then we'll all be golden.
James Woods
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Poor Victor Salva.
Are you surprised? We are on GAF, corporation worshipping is pretty normal here.
I think a lot of people have not read the fine print of the allegations.
Hollywood.
Steve Youngblood
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The standards of a criminal trial don't apply to the court of public opinion. And just in case it's not clear, I point this out not so that it appears as though I'm agreeing with you and suggesting that we should apply the standards of a criminal trial to a discussion such as this one. I write this as a rebuttal to your post because it's not clear to me what point it is that you think you're making.
Laughing Banana
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Ugh reading about the casting couch thingie in Wikipedia:
Not necessarily related to Singer's case but just shows you how the entire thing is still alive and well in Hollywood :/
Not necessarily related to Singer's case but just shows you how the entire thing is still alive and well in Hollywood :/
These stories paint Singer as almost comically depraved.
They paint a picture of him dunking his head into a mountain of fucking coke in his bedroom like a god damn cartoon character and then getting back up with the crazy eyes and chasing some dude in his underwear
They paint a picture of him dunking his head into a mountain of fucking coke in his bedroom like a god damn cartoon character and then getting back up with the crazy eyes and chasing some dude in his underwear
Son of Cervantes
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The coke stories from the X2 shoot were all wild. He would be high on set and would refuse to come out of his trailer, he would fight with the actors, all sorts of shit.
Sounds like a nightmare to work with.
Calamari41
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Never been to a party that turned out to be a coke party, I see.
Walpurgisnacht
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Damn, this guy sounds absolutely insane. Too bad without him we get shit like The Last Stand. As sad as I am to see that happen, it's for the best.
SquiddyCracker
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Let's not start or encourage witch hunts based on celebrity gossip provided by outlets which make a living off spreading celebrity gossip - that's my point. Sure, different standards of determining truth and all, but when it comes to heavy accusations like pedophilia and rape I wouldn't trust the public court one bit.
I'm not going to treat this Bryan Singer person differently just because he happens to be a celebrity, I will treat him just as I would treat your average guy who has been accused of abominable crimes - by being cautious and encouraging others to not draw hasty conclusions.
Damn, this guy sounds absolutely insane. Too bad without him we get shit like The Last Stand. As sad as I am to see that happen, it's for the best.
Too bad with him we got X1 and X2.
So tired of this notion that because a director has directed 1 or 2 good movies for a franchise, it then means no one is worthy enough to be brought in to replace them. When there is probably someone out there who can give us a better X-Men movie, and I say this as someone who enjoyed X2 quite a lot.
Singer Gon Give It To Ya
A director on set is like a father and leader figure combined. He is the the guy that ultimately sends stuntmen to do a dangerous stunt and demands absolute precision from his actors' and crew. Doing drugs undermines all that and it is dangerous to both crew and the film production itself.
If the story about coke on set is true and he did heavy drugs I don't understand why the studio would continue to let him reign. Should have fired him immediately.
If the story about coke on set is true and he did heavy drugs I don't understand why the studio would continue to let him reign. Should have fired him immediately.
If they fire Singer for this then they would also have to fire themselves. Hollywood executives do plenty of drugs/sexually exploit talent.
Jesus Christ
VaultBoy101
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You don't know much about the movie business, do you?
Messofanego
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Speaking from experience? Could just use Ritalin/speed/meth if you're that intent on it lol
yeah, it makes you focussed on finding more cocaine and working to get that cocaine
Holy shit
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