FUNKNOWN iXi
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Halo |OT 23| Thruster is Love, Thruster is Life
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link1201
Member
Oh yeah? That's cool.
I loved the customization in Halo: Reach. I hope Halo 5 returns to that level.
I am hopeful one day I'll see the return of my leather leg pouch.
Is that a peach that swings both ways? Anyhoo - congrats! Now make me a fun Halo game and put a hammer innit
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
Take those goggles off they're affecting your critical thinking skills.
When played with competent players, Halo Ball and Reach Hockey were every bit as competitive and intense as Grifball.
Dino Blasters was just one of my favorite lol-random gametypes. I can't recall exactly, but I don't think you could make that gametype exactly without modding. It was force players as Elites, infinite ammo Concussion Rifles with bottomless clips and everyone has jetpacks. It was the jetpacks I'm not sure you could replicate as it was like infinite jetpacks but they basically were "hover packs" instead of providing a ton of vertical movement.
Prinz Eugn
Member
So... not?
I did always enjoy Dino Blasters, leading shots and moving in three dimensions was fun.
User 73706
Banned
I'm guessing .edu accounts get immediate priority compared to other extensions.
I'm realizing the error of my ways now, Sensei.
Still, they were basically non-stop action and damn fun, though.
Definitely a cult-classic!
Poodlestrike
Banned
Your concern is registered.
Havoc2049
Member
Here is a cool Matt Chat interview with Ed Fries, former head of Microsoft Game Studios. A few cool Halo related stories in the interview. It sounds like Halo 2 was about to go down the MCC path, but luckily Ed Fries and Jason Jones fought the "non-gaming suits" at MS to get an extra year of development.
The Matt Chat interview with Ed Fries is part three of a four part series. If you're an Xbox and Halo fan, the whole series is worth a watch. Part four comes out next week.
The Matt Chat interview with Ed Fries is part three of a four part series. If you're an Xbox and Halo fan, the whole series is worth a watch. Part four comes out next week.
Do not fault the goggles for his brain problems
#notbiased
...ew...
Leyasu
Banned
Not a great map, but it looked gorgeous..
I always felt meltdown was a pretty good map. I liked the cross fire over the vehicle road thing. The tunnels were also quite fun to pop in and out of.
Could have done without the mantis though.
Didn't need to mod to make Dino Blasters, you can build it off the built-in Elite Slayer gametype.
Just give all players Infinite Ammo and Infinite AA Usage.
Ah okay, I just wasn't sure. I guess jetpack with infinite battery simply becomes a hover-jet at it's max height then? That's what was the unique thing about Dino Blasters. Hell do you move slow just hovering at one altitude like that.
Agreed on both counts.
Jetpacks in Reach have a very nonlinear thrust curve after engagement. They have an initial kick that provides huge upward power but then taper off to a hover (and even get to where you're slowly falling).
This is standard behavior even without infinite AA energy. For instance, to make some big jetpack climbs (i.e. on Paradiso), you have to use your jetpack energy in two bursts, rather than 1 big burst.
I suppose it just isn't very visually appealing to me.
I can understand why it might be fun from a gameplay perspective; the tunnels and figure 8 design of the map have a cool flow to them. The map itself though is just too... busy? The color scheme is weird and the rocks and cliffs look so artificial. Maybe that was intentional but it just doesn't look very good imo...
Learning the arc and thrust of the jet pack was fun in Reach.
Once you understood it you could use it to get to really cool heights and sniper spots. I think it could be really fun as a pick up for campaign and multiplayer modes (fun party stuff). It just sucks for competitive multiplayer sadly.
I came from Halo 3 in an extremely competitive mindset and that's probably why Reach was a complete letdown for me. Through time I learned to appreciate the casual fun it held, and I did enjoy the Arena system, but the gameplay was just god awful. It's still better than 4 in almost every aspect though.
Ah, aesthetically I actually think it's very cool. The sky box is awesome. I agree it does look pretty busy though.
Who are you calling a hipster you shill?
Oh man, I haven't been called a shill for a long time. Brings back memories of the X1 reveal...
Good stuff, some old some new to me.
I always thought it was a rumour EA got a slice of the Xbox Live Gold pie but Fries said they made a deal, wonder if it still exists.
Ed Fries managers sound like complete tools. Halo 2 needs another year, like really and the person wants a vote with all the suits, everyone votes stick to the original schedule. No wonder Fries almost walked out. Curious to know who the other people were. Could even be the other Xbox bosses and team members. Bizarre.
NobleGundam
Banned
It's the age-old story. If you let "the suits" run the place you end up with sloppy games and cash-grabs, if you let the developers go wild with no constraints you'd end up with massively ambitious projects that don't end up working (see Bioshock Infinite, Duke Nukem). Best case scenario is there's a happy balance and mutual respect for each other's work.
While I might be mistaken from time to time, I have never knowingly typed a lie on this forum. OK?
Welfare
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Don't say that. DetectiveGAF is going to pull something up.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Meltdown was Shit.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Are we discounting leak suppression and tease misdirections?
Scandalous!
ElzarTheBam
Member
Yes. If I make a claim or a statement, it is either true or I 100% believe it to be true. If I distract you with vague look over there's then you should be used to that by now.
Reach certainly did suffer from a competitive standpoint. It was especially frustrating to try and be an effective solo player when your team sucked. To be honest I didn't really touch arena much. I played ranked H3 a lot but Arena just put me off for whatever reason.
The skybox isn't half bad. Honestly I love color in maps (if my previous posts haven't eluded to that already
) but something about Meltdown just doesn't mesh well to me I guess lolThere you have it true believers!
Prinz Eugn
Member
I have a hard time feeling strongly about Meltdown either way, but it was hilarious how low the framerate was for the host.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Oh shit, looking forward to the grenade that explodes into CE Magnums now.
Gabotron ES
Member
I really want to see H5's BTB.
True but guess it doesn't always work out that way. Need strong but not overly stubborn folk with understanding and common sense.
GringoSuave89
Banned
Ditto. And Campaign. In fact, just release the whole game today.
NobleGundam
Banned
So.. When do we get the grenade that explodes into more grenades?
Just me or is Battlefield Halo without the attachements and carrot on a stick XP stuff what I hope BTB is like sometimes?
Maybe 343 could save that for an ODST game or something.
GringoSuave89
Banned
If they made a spin off game focusing on standard armed forces, I wouldn't mind a standard FPS kind of game. Could be interesting.
when you see a fake edited post in some scumbag's youtube video, that's the true truth
Poodlestrike
Banned
I think I'd prefer that BTB stays standard and they just go nuts with an Invasion 2.0 type mode.
Yeah, I remember Bungie mentioning in an interview way back that beancounters originally wanted Halo 3 as a 360 launch title. The time scheduling would have just been a LITTLE bit absurd.
A similar thing was almost pushed for on the One as well:
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/mi...o-game-as-xbox-one-launch-title/1100-6416386/
So what are your predictions for H5's BTB?
Upscaled Invasion?
It really sucks when a game gets screwed by this kind of stuff. Luckily H3 and to a lesser extent H2 managed to come out fine.
You're thinking of Star Wars Battlefront
Delta Unit Hinkle
Member
So There will Soon Be an Update For MCC that hopefully will fix most issues.
ANd we know that they are working on a way to incentivize player to return and hopefully rebuild the population.
Does anyone think that they might give us Halo reach?
I know it might create more issue and might not be worth it to alot of folks but i think it would be kind of cool, Maybe keep updating MCC with more halo games.
Maybe?
ANd we know that they are working on a way to incentivize player to return and hopefully rebuild the population.
Does anyone think that they might give us Halo reach?
I know it might create more issue and might not be worth it to alot of folks but i think it would be kind of cool, Maybe keep updating MCC with more halo games.
Maybe?
There is no recovering the number of players MCC bled through, first (and in this case second, third, and fourth) impressions matter. Most of the people who picked up the game to casually play it probably haven't but it in their console in a while and there's only so much amount of time that you can keep stringing your core audience along with updates before they lose hope as well. They won't port Reach either, ODST is coming because the work has already been done in H3 and ODST might've already been in the future content pipeline as paid DLC. They'd have to port over Reach and its engine to the One and then deal with integrating it into the technical mess that MCC is.
Imagine if there had been a population counter in this game...
Is the H2A OST missing some percussion? I remember being kinda confused during some cutscenes where I expected snares and they weren't there.
Sometimes I wonder if I got a special copy of the game or something. "Just muffling"?
The new music is full of tons of bangy, brassy noise (among other things) which doesn't exist in the original. It's a substantial style difference.
I've also found spots with timing issues, like at the end of the fight when you get to the marine HQ on Metropolis. The music is supposed to quit for the "oh shit" scarab moment, but they left it just sort of doing its thing continuously from the start of the vehicle battle until the scarab exits behind the HQ for you to chase after it.
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Admittedly, the old audio isn't quite perfect for use in MCC; Classic Mode does and doesn't sound like the original. It does sound like the original in that the audio was seemingly ported in a reasonably precise way. It doesn't sound like the original in that the peculiarities and strengths/weaknesses of TV audio setups have changed over time.
Hook my oXbox up to my new HDTV? Sounds a lot like MCC. Hook it up to my 15-year-old Trinitron? Glorious.
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I must be in the minority for liking the way BTB was in past games CE, 2, 3 etc. While I can and do play games like Battlefield, nothing comes close to the BTB matches I've had in Halo. I just don't get it.
Edit: I meant I don't get why people want to get rid of the BTB we've had to copy games they can readily play anytime. I mean hell BF4 premium was just on sale, Hardline is coming out, who knows how Star Wars: Battlefront will be soon, why make Halo be like them.
Edit: I meant I don't get why people want to get rid of the BTB we've had to copy games they can readily play anytime. I mean hell BF4 premium was just on sale, Hardline is coming out, who knows how Star Wars: Battlefront will be soon, why make Halo be like them.
It's pretty simple, player to player combat on an infantry level is just more satisfying in Halo than the vast majority of other shooters. Big ass battles in Battlefield is its own thing, but a typical engagement with another player on foot is extremely forgettable and a means to an end to get to a vehicle or objective.
Whereas in Halo, those engagements can be far more interesting and more drawn out. Also have more impact because the weapon spawning and cycling system with on map pickups, instead of just spawning with a power weapon as a part of your loadout. So the swings in momentum are decided more in infantry engagements than they would be in a game where you spawn with that shit.
I personally just want a higher player cap and vehicle count.
I'm not really into classes and whatnot. I mean I suppose they could be done in a way that works but from what I've seen of H5, not so much. There's no real reason for it. To clarify I mean there's no reason for classes to exist as there aren't things like health packs or trip mines or even engineerable things. Spawning from a drop pod would be cool though imo (depending on the size).
Booshka's explanation is right on point as well.
Infantry combat in Halo is a whole other level of fun than other games.