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95% of women who've had abortion don't regret it, study
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igordennis
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Sho_Nuff82
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Ouch.
TheLostBigBoss
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People don't regret being responsible and choosing what they do with their bodies and lives?
I'm fucking shocked.
I'm fucking shocked.
ebullientprism
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It doesnt matter what they think. It only matters what people who dont know them think about it.
Thats what a woman's decision should be guided by. People who have nothing to do with her life.
Thats what a woman's decision should be guided by. People who have nothing to do with her life.
The whole abortion "controversy" is silly to me. Its none of your business people.
Ganzlinger
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I expected numbers like that.
balladofwindfishes
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I remember in Catholic school we were told women who had abortions had a really high suicide rate (like 50% or something absurd like that) and it left them emotionally scarred for life.
Even back as a kid I knew that didn't really sound right.
I think a lot of the emotional issues anti-abortion supporters always push are actually more from the social stigma, and not the actual procedure. Which means it's a self fulfilling issue.
Even back as a kid I knew that didn't really sound right.
I think a lot of the emotional issues anti-abortion supporters always push are actually more from the social stigma, and not the actual procedure. Which means it's a self fulfilling issue.
These are the same kind of people who tried to claim that studies proved that women who aborted were at much higher risk for breast cancer.
Don't look for logic in it.
SteveWinwood
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Damn.
It may be harsh, but I'll be damned if it isn't true.
Of course they don't. You gotta be in the right mindset to want to have a kid. The idea that the mere act of fertilization can put you in that mindset immediately is so ridiculous it hurts.
I wish I could see the world 1000 years from now. The conversation will have shifted away from stupid morality arguments like this and move towards genetic modification, test tube pregnancies so the woman doesn't need to go through body changes, And much more interesting shit
I wish I could see the world 1000 years from now. The conversation will have shifted away from stupid morality arguments like this and move towards genetic modification, test tube pregnancies so the woman doesn't need to go through body changes, And much more interesting shit
It's probably not that high, though I hope it is.. Too much bias and terrible selection methods in this study to actually mean anything.
You'd probably have to filter out those who were actively trying to get pregnant.
What do you consider is biased about this study? OP seems to indicate that there was a relatively diverse selection of individuals.
crisdecuba
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I'm not surprised that this is the figure when it comes to the question of "Do you regret?" People tend to answer this question with a "No" even in situations that have turned out to have been difficult.
I mean, the statement isn't worth anything more than snark, but it probably is true. Just kind of a funny thing to say/think about.
Count Dookkake
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I wonder what percentage regrets giving birth.
Zoe
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Not everybody who gets an abortion falls under those circumstances?
The study.
This makes intuitive sense to me. An arborition is a clean break generally. Aside from any medical complications resulting thereof, you won't be reminded of your abortion very often throughout the rest of your life. And if the idea to have children strikes you, you can always get pregnant again (of course, barring any medical complications).
On the other side of that, having a kid is something you'll deal with for the rest of your life. Plenty, plenty moments to fall into regret there, even in the midst of loving your child. And there are no mulligans in this situation.
But to be fair, I only read the abstract.
This makes intuitive sense to me. An arborition is a clean break generally. Aside from any medical complications resulting thereof, you won't be reminded of your abortion very often throughout the rest of your life. And if the idea to have children strikes you, you can always get pregnant again (of course, barring any medical complications).
On the other side of that, having a kid is something you'll deal with for the rest of your life. Plenty, plenty moments to fall into regret there, even in the midst of loving your child. And there are no mulligans in this situation.
But to be fair, I only read the abstract.
Where do people come up with this? Someone always brings something like this up.
Please point out the bias and terrible selection methods. Do you have a problem with the way participants were selected? Or how they were excluded? The demographics of the participants?
What I find weird is this line: "Overall, 37.5% of eligible women consented to participate[...]". (Last paragraph 'Sample and procedures') You'll obviously find more people willing to talk about something they don't regret doing.
I find the number to be incredibly high, which is a very good thing, but I don't believe the percentage is quite that high.
Northeastmonk
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Wouldn't 95% say it was a bad thing?
I live where there are billboards for miles and miles that have pictures of babies and they're all anti-abortion. They may belong to all the farmers, but they pay to put them up there.
Of course, people love babies. Anyone with a child, who is presumably happy, loves their child. They wouldn't have wanted an abortion. duh
2 women walk into a store with their cute baby while 1 sits there from an abortion. America ladies and gents.
I'm all for choice, but studies show depression and jealousy are real too.
I live where there are billboards for miles and miles that have pictures of babies and they're all anti-abortion. They may belong to all the farmers, but they pay to put them up there.
Of course, people love babies. Anyone with a child, who is presumably happy, loves their child. They wouldn't have wanted an abortion. duh
2 women walk into a store with their cute baby while 1 sits there from an abortion. America ladies and gents.
I'm all for choice, but studies show depression and jealousy are real too.
Well, yeah. You have an abortion, you may mourn afterwards, but you don't really have anything in your life to remind of the fact that you had an abortion, so why would most people regret the decision?
Some people regret having kids but you usually have to live with that decision for years..
Some people regret having kids but you usually have to live with that decision for years..
Zeus Molecules
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95% is a really large number for any group to agree upon anything in a study..... I need to see the data on the group that consisted of the 670 women.
Zoe
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Having to review your medical history could do that.
They're probably a part of the 62.5% who declined to participate.
The women who had to get abortions had to consent to participate in this study. That will likely lead to biases. The women who potentially regret abortion would presumably be less likely to consent to such a study. Why would you want go be constantly reminded of your regret?
It's a meaningless study. It'll be nice for some headlines but that's about it. I can't think of a good way to handle this.
I know more than one friend who had an abortion and they don't regret, even in you consider how difficult and ... ILEGAL the procedure was.
If you search so hard something to do with your body it is hard to regret since it is not a momentary decision that you can change your mind the next day
...because you can help people to don't suffer like you did ?
Also ... Constantly is kinda exaggeration since don't look like they meet more than once each year =P
That's not how selection works. They don't go, "here's the study and we want to know if you regret your abortion, do you want to participate?" It's more like, "Were doing a long term 3 year study about the emotional impacts of women seeking abortions, agreeing to participate does not require you to get an abortion and you may stop participating in the study at any time." It isn't like they found a list of women who had abortions and called them up to ask if they regretted their decision.
A lot of people really just don't want to take time out of their day to do a survey, much less participate in a 3 year study.
These were the study requirements, right above the line you found weird:
Further above that they talked about the differences between the groups they tested and whatnot, but I think it's safe to say "eligible if they were English- or Spanish-speaking, ≥15 years old, and had a pregnancy with no known fetal anomalies" is fairly broad.
It's also a three year study, so it's not like everyone might be jumping at the chance to commit (however minimal the effort) to the study.
Are you implying that people are just as likely to talk about traumatic events as they are about things that were not traumatic to them? Because that was my point.
Winter John
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Well good. There are far too many unwanted kids in the world and far too many people who think they have a divine right to stick their noses into other people's business
Aika'svyse
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Out of the people I know closely that have had them, both people regretted it.
I don't really buy into most studies anymore, whereas use to think they were fact when I was younger, going to college, examining studies and creating them, its interesting on how far a few words can throw a whole study off.
I don't really buy into most studies anymore, whereas use to think they were fact when I was younger, going to college, examining studies and creating them, its interesting on how far a few words can throw a whole study off.
I believe in the right to choose. You can judge a woman who has an abortion because you are not them. Everyone has their story.To many unwanted children already exist.
I don't agree to use an abortion as birth control. I know people who has had at least 4 in less than five years . To me thats just disgusting and that person should just get their tubes tied.
Life is precious and a baby is life. If you know you dont want one then prepare in advance and prevent it if you can. Now 4 in five years. You're just nasty.
As for 95% that is ridiculous and someone made a mistake counting. I know a few people that have regretted their decision. Its a decision not to be taken lightly.
I don't agree to use an abortion as birth control. I know people who has had at least 4 in less than five years . To me thats just disgusting and that person should just get their tubes tied.
Life is precious and a baby is life. If you know you dont want one then prepare in advance and prevent it if you can. Now 4 in five years. You're just nasty.
As for 95% that is ridiculous and someone made a mistake counting. I know a few people that have regretted their decision. Its a decision not to be taken lightly.
Sometimes you can't control it.
Lord Error
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People are amazing at justifying their own actions to themselves. It's an important coping mechanism even for things that you massively regret at first. If you're not reminded of it on a daily basis, it fades away, and you justify it to yourself one way or the other.
How is it ridiculous? It's not like 100% didn't regret their decision. The "few people" you know would be part of the 5% that regretted having an abortion.
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