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Bubbins · May 14, 2017

So for a variety of reasons I have held off buying a current gen console (I did get an alienware alpha and a wiiu but those kinda do and don't count but I digress) which is odd for a guy who has bought most consoles since 1997. Anyways, finally bought a PS4 Pro last week and wanted to share some thoughts:

1) 4k is complex- I also bought a 4k (non-HDR) monitor to go along with send PS4, however, the jump to 4k is not nearly as immediately apparent as the jump from SD to HD. SD to HD the whole screen changed; 4k looks great, but you gotta fiddle with a bunch of settings and while it does look amazing once you get everything set, there isn't an instant gratification like SD to HD.

2) I missed console gaming even with steam, console gaming is just simpler. No graphics drivers, no endless tinkering with graphics settings. It's nice just to sit down and game.

3) The menu is great- simple and functional yet elegant. Not sure why but I really like it.

4) New dualshock is nice- it's so light and the light bar doesn't bother me

5) PS2 on PS4 needs some love- the lack of widescreen support on PS2 to PS4 is disappointing as is the catalog. This is something I would spend a lot of money on if Sony got their act together.

6)Random stuff- mine is very quiet. P5 is great and I am enjoying it much much more than I thought I would. Need to spend more time with Nier and HZD. Can't wait for Crash (and one day hopefully the new Dragon Quest).

TLDR: would buy again

jorgejjvr · May 14, 2017

Congrats

Although a slim would have done just fine

TI82 · May 14, 2017

Yeah the dualshock 4 is really comfortable, all three devs hit it out of the park this time with all of them having their best controllers ever.

jorgejjvr said:
Congrats

Although a slim would have done just fine

He wanted 4K

jorgejjvr · May 14, 2017

TI82 said:
Yeah the dualshock 4 is really comfortable, all three devs hit it out of the park this time with all of them having their best controllers ever.

He wanted 4K

I have a 4k TV, have tried it with a pro, and a slim. Hardly any difference

Tagyhag · May 14, 2017

1) 4k is complex- I also bought a 4k (non-HDR) monitor to go along with send PS4, however, the jump to 4k is not nearly as immediately apparent as the jump from SD to HD. SD to HD the whole screen changed; 4k looks great, but you gotta fiddle with a bunch of settings and while it does look amazing once you get everything set, there isn't an instant gratification like SD to HD.

Are you trying a native 4K game? That might be the difference. Some people swear that there is zero difference between checkered 4K and real 4K, but others can definitely tell, especially since you're a PC gamer.

DieH@rd · May 14, 2017

SonicXtreme · May 14, 2017

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Bubbins · May 14, 2017

jorgejjvr said:
I have a 4k TV, have tried it with a pro, and a slim. Hardly any difference

Really? 4k aside, games on Pro do seem smoother. Maybe it's my imagination or maybe it's Enhanced with Pro.

Mbolibombo · May 14, 2017

TI82 said:
Yeah the dualshock 4 is really comfortable, all three devs hit it out of the park this time with all of them having their best controllers ever.

He wanted 4K

I think it's PS best effort control wise so far! Feels good in my hands.I like it.

But I prefer off set buttons so that is a bit of a bummer for me, also the battery life is really really awful. Both my DS4 give me from 4-6 hours depending on the games.

DriftingSpirit · May 14, 2017

SonicXtreme said:
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FunkyMunkey · May 14, 2017

4k is much more noticable in larger TV's. Going from 1080p to true 4k on a 60 inch is startling

pretty done · May 14, 2017

jorgejjvr said:
Congrats

Although a slim would have done just fine

Not with his 4K monitor. Dunno why so many people are quick to dismiss the Pro just because they don't have one.

FunkyMunkey said:
4k is much more noticable in larger TV's. Going from 1080p to true 4k on a 60 inch is startling

I'm only on the 43 inch x800D and it's great coming from a 42 inch Panny plasma. You don't need 60 inches to notice a big upgrade.

The Argus · May 14, 2017

FunkyMunkey said:
4k is much more noticable in larger TV's. Going from 1080p to true 4k on a 60 inch is startling

This. I'd say 55inches is the bare minimum to really start appreciating it. Also HDR seals the whole deal, why did you get a 4K set that didn't have HDR, OP?

Zaheer · May 14, 2017

SonicXtreme said:
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Gator86 · May 14, 2017

Bubbins said:
So for a variety of reasons I have held off buying a current gen console (I did get an alienware alpha and a wiiu but those kinda do and don't count but I digress) which is odd for a guy who has bought most consoles since 1997. Anyways, finally bought a PS4 Pro last week and wanted to share some thoughts:

1) 4k is complex- I also bought a 4k (non-HDR) monitor to go along with send PS4, however, the jump to 4k is not nearly as immediately apparent as the jump from SD to HD. SD to HD the whole screen changed; 4k looks great, but you gotta fiddle with a bunch of settings and while it does look amazing once you get everything set, there isn't an instant gratification like SD to HD.

2) I missed console gaming even with steam, console gaming is just simpler. No graphics drivers, no endless tinkering with graphics settings. It's nice just to sit down and game.

3) The menu is great- simple and functional yet elegant. Not sure why but I really like it.

4) New dualshock is nice- it's so light and the light bar doesn't bother me

5) PS2 on PS4 needs some love- the lack of widescreen support on PS2 to PS4 is disappointing as is the catalog. This is something I would spend a lot of money on if Sony got their act together.

6)Random stuff- mine is very quiet. P5 is great and I am enjoying it much much more than I thought I would. Need to spend more time with Nier and HZD. Can't wait for Crash (and one day hopefully the new Dragon Quest).

TLDR: would buy again

Welcome!

1) I'm holding off on 4k right now. I'll probably hop in next gen. Don't want to replace my TV and receiver right now.

2) Even as they get more PC, console gaming is still the best for simplicity.

3) PS4 OS is great now. It's the best gaming OS we've seen so far.

4) Light is still dumb but I'm apathetic to it these days

5) Everything about PS2 on PS4 is awful. It's really a horrible initiative.

6) My pro is also whisper quiet and a great change of pace from jet engine original.

Panzon · May 14, 2017

Congrats OP. I caved about a month ago and am still having a blast with Horizon: Zero Dawn and Battlefield 1. I don't get much time to game anymore but I make the absolute best of it when I can. 4K looks great to me and PS plus is a godsend

Irishonion · May 14, 2017

SonicXtreme said:
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Best post.

Frostman · May 14, 2017

What settings did you have to mess with on your 4K monitor?

Mathieran · May 14, 2017

I don't know how much more noticeable 4K is than 1080 but I definitely notice a difference just downscaling on my my 1080p tv. I imagine the difference is even greater

13ruce · May 14, 2017

DieH@rd said:

The PS4 is death?

dead sales wise i mean, cuz that gif was used for vita and wii u

TI82 · May 14, 2017

Bubbins said:
Really? 4k aside, games on Pro do seem smoother. Maybe it's my imagination or maybe it's Enhanced with Pro.

Don't listen to that guy, PS4 pro and slim are very different experiences.

Mbolibombo said:
I think it's PS best effort control wise so far! Feels good in my hands.I like it.

But I prefer off set buttons so that is a bit of a bummer for me, also the battery life is really really awful. Both my DS4 give me from 4-6 hours depending on the games.

Really? My DS4's seem to last seemingly forever. Not Forever-squared like my Nintendo controllers but yeah for a very very long time.

Corpsepyre · May 14, 2017

Are there even any native 4k games on the PS4?

Jimnymebob · May 14, 2017

PS2 classics widescreen depends on the game. If it has widescreen support on PS2, it has it on PS4. If not, you're out of luck.

DieH@rd · May 14, 2017

Corpsepyre said:
Are there even any native 4k games on the PS4?

Lots.

The12thGripper · May 14, 2017

Corpsepyre said:
Are there even any native 4k games on the PS4?

Pretty sure the KH remasters support native 4K/60FPS but those are PS2/PSP/3DS games. Not sure what "modern" games have native 4K.

Aceofspades · May 14, 2017

Try PSVR ... Your mind will be blown away.

phantasmic_glaive · May 14, 2017

jorgejjvr said:
I have a 4k TV, have tried it with a pro, and a slim. Hardly any difference

Then you're doing something wrong. When I got my pro, I immediately noticed things in the game tiles I didn't notice before.. plus the games themselves look pristine (second time I used that word this week, lol)

OT: keep doing what you're doing, which is make yourself happy.

Stop It · May 14, 2017

Bubbins said:
So for a variety of reasons I have held off buying a current gen console (I did get an alienware alpha and a wiiu but those kinda do and don't count but I digress) which is odd for a guy who has bought most consoles since 1997. Anyways, finally bought a PS4 Pro last week and wanted to share some thoughts:

1) 4k is complex- I also bought a 4k (non-HDR) monitor to go along with send PS4, however, the jump to 4k is not nearly as immediately apparent as the jump from SD to HD. SD to HD the whole screen changed; 4k looks great, but you gotta fiddle with a bunch of settings and while it does look amazing once you get everything set, there isn't an instant gratification like SD to HD.

2) I missed console gaming even with steam, console gaming is just simpler. No graphics drivers, no endless tinkering with graphics settings. It's nice just to sit down and game.

3) The menu is great- simple and functional yet elegant. Not sure why but I really like it.

4) New dualshock is nice- it's so light and the light bar doesn't bother me

5) PS2 on PS4 needs some love- the lack of widescreen support on PS2 to PS4 is disappointing as is the catalog. This is something I would spend a lot of money on if Sony got their act together.

6)Random stuff- mine is very quiet. P5 is great and I am enjoying it much much more than I thought I would. Need to spend more time with Nier and HZD. Can't wait for Crash (and one day hopefully the new Dragon Quest).

TLDR: would buy again

I just bought a PS4 Slim and I have a 4k tv, heh.

I'll address your points though.

1: For any tv to look it's best you have to do some work, 4K or not. My partners brother spent a lot of cash a few years ago on a high end Samsung tv and stuck it in dynamic mode. Calibrate your shit!

2: After waiting for everything to install. You clearly haven't played much disc based games yet as nearly every game needs at least a patch when you chuck the disk in.

3: Still getting used to it, but it's functional and snappy. Love the Abe's Odyssey theme.

4: Too light! I love the usage of the light bar in Tearaway however and how it changes colour in games like Uncharted.

5: Not tried yet but that's a sore point I think!

6: Also waiting for Crash here. Wondering if it's worth making a CA account to get The Order on the cheap, I still need to work out fully how to do that though! Using an Xbox branded 2TB HDD because I thought it would be slightly ironic. Works well though!

So far, so good however. Looking forward to playing World of Final Fantasy, Wolfenstein, and the Uncharted Collection especially but have 13 games already to get through. Yey backlogs.

I hope you enjoy your new PS4 too OP.

JareBear: Remastered · May 14, 2017

Sigh.

Another Pro thread hit with the "shoulda just bought a Slim" nonsense shit post.

Some people legit make it their life mission to libel the Pro for just the silliest of reasons. The Pro has been an amazing upgrade over my OG PS4 and that's just the truth.

Randam · May 14, 2017

Bubbins said:
2) I missed console gaming even with steam, console gaming is just simpler. No graphics drivers, no endless tinkering with graphics settings. It's nice just to sit down and game.

Oh boy, here we go..

Updating your drivers is on click. No difference than updating your console firmware.

And endless tinkering?

The days were you could turn on your console and start playing right away are long gone too.

JareBear: Remastered · May 14, 2017

Randam said:
Oh boy, here we go..

Updating your drivers is on click. No difference than updating your console firmware.

And endless tinkering?

The days were you could turn on your console and start playing right away are long gone too.

I'll never understand why you PCMR guys can't just let console gamers enjoy themselves.

brickarts295 · May 14, 2017

We got Beast Mode earlier this year, lets hope Scorpio can push Sony into adding more features into the Pro.

Snkfanatic · May 14, 2017

JareBear said:
I'll never understand why you PCMR guys can't just let console gamers enjoy themselves.

OP asked for that response putting that comment in there. No one is hampering OP's enjoyment...lol. Just pointing out that this

2) I missed console gaming even with steam, console gaming is just simpler. No graphics drivers, no endless tinkering with graphics settings. It's nice just to sit down and game.

Is going to be major talking point of this thread. Because honestly it's a little silly to feel this way. PC gaming is not that much harder than console gaming.

GribbleGrunger · May 14, 2017

JareBear said:
I'll never understand why you PCMR guys can't just let console gamers enjoy themselves.

They are enjoying themselves ... That's the problem.

Unknown? · May 14, 2017

jorgejjvr said:
I have a 4k TV, have tried it with a pro, and a slim. Hardly any difference

Just like there's hardly any difference between 720p and 1080p? I take it you don't care about Digital Foundry and if a game is native or upscaled?

breakfuss · May 14, 2017

Already been mentioned...ENABLE 2FA!!! DO IT.

And anyone saying they haven't noticed the difference between the resolutions of a pro/OG is blind. I'm not suggesting it's earth shattering shit but it's certainly a treat to behold. Horizon is just...gorgeous.

Ahasverus · May 14, 2017

Snkfanatic said:
Is going to be major talking point of this thread. Because honestly it's a little silly to feel this way. PC gaming is not that much harder than console gaming.

A bit harder is still harder.

Randam · May 14, 2017

JareBear said:
I'll never understand why you PCMR guys can't just let console gamers enjoy themselves.

Because they need to badmouth pc gaming for them to enjoy themselves.

And go and stick it yourself somewhere with your "you PCMR guys"..

antibolo · May 14, 2017

Randam said:
Because they need to badmouth pc gaming for them to enjoy themselves.

And go and stick it yourself somewhere with your "you PCMR guys"..

You're the one who started it, you have no moral high ground here.

Hux1ey · May 14, 2017

JareBear said:
I'll never understand why you PCMR guys can't just let console gamers enjoy themselves.

You'll last long here.

No sarcasm either.

antibolo said:
You're the one who started it, you have no moral high ground here.

Started it by correcting an ignorant statement? You can auto download and install graphic drivers.

Grats on the pro, there are a few graphic options though so a bit of the old PC kerfuffle remains!

N7.Angel · May 14, 2017

It's a mistake to me, my worst purchase since the Xbox One... honestly my PS4 would have been more than ok because the improvement on games are minimal to average at best.

breakfuss · May 14, 2017

N7.Angel said:
It's a mistake to me, my worst purchase since the Xbox One... honestly my PS4 would have been more than ok because the improvement on games are minimal to average at best.

Do you have a 4K set?

NinjamicWZ · May 14, 2017

jorgejjvr said:
I have a 4k TV, have tried it with a pro, and a slim. Hardly any difference

What brand/model, settings, and games? Even just Diablo III was like night and day after it got a Pro patch.

I hooked up my old PS4 just the other day to reformat it and it looked like garbage even just looking at the menu after 6 months with the Pro and a finely tuned KS8000.

Frostman · May 14, 2017

Threads going to turn to shit.

GinoFelino · May 14, 2017

Hey guys I bought a ps4 pro, really like it,! YOU SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT A PC/PS4 SLIM/CONSOLES ARE BAD/PCS ARE COMPLICATED/4K ISNT READY/SCORPIO

Sorry about all this, OP. Hope you enjoy your Pro!

LelouchZero · May 14, 2017

JareBear said:
I'll never understand why you PCMR guys can't just let console gamers enjoy themselves.

Rule Number 1: Correcting those who are wrong or misinformed makes you a villainous PC fanboy.

Hux1ey · May 14, 2017

LelouchZero said:
Rule Number 1: Correcting those who are wrong or misinformed makes you a villainous PC fanboy.

Persecution complex on this forum is crazy at times.

entremet · May 14, 2017

DieH@rd said:

Doesn't really work the PS4. It does with the Vita since those type of games were numerous.

GlamFM · May 14, 2017

The Argus said:
This. I'd say 55inches is the bare minimum to really start appreciating it. Also HDR seals the whole deal, why did you get a 4K set that didn't have HDR, OP?

Because he bought a monitor, not a TV.

Tagyhag · May 14, 2017

JareBear said:
I'll never understand why you PCMR guys can't just let console gamers enjoy themselves.

I'll never understand why correcting someone saying something factually wrong about PC gaming means that you're automatically an asshole.

By the way, you're continuing the GAF tradition that only console fanboys say "Master race" unironically. Good job!

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