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MS confirms indie program for XB1, was a big GamesCom surprise, angry at GI for leak
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Ok, it's clear we do NOT know enough about this to make any judgements. All we know is that Microsoft technically "allowed" self-publishing on 360 as well, with XBLIG. This could very well be completely different, but we just don't know.
If they are allowing self-publishing right to the main Marketplace, and if they're really doing away with "dev kits" [as they potentially were], then major kudos to them. Until we know for sure, though, it's just up in the air.
If they are allowing self-publishing right to the main Marketplace, and if they're really doing away with "dev kits" [as they potentially were], then major kudos to them. Until we know for sure, though, it's just up in the air.
PanicFreak
Member
You're arguing with a person who thinks that Microsoft announced this (through a leak), let the story ride for 15 minutes on a few gaming websites, and announced that there will be limitations at launch only so that they could trick people to pre-order a console.
As if the collective internet is sitting on Amazon at every instant of every day, with their finger hovering over the buy now button, waiting for a new shred of positive news to finally pre-order an Xbox One.
What I'm saying is, what's the point?
Dead Prince
Banned
or. it comes with the new ps eye and still retain the $399 pricepoint and release a month early.
Oh. we are talking about devkit.
with the vita. would be nice. just a month away until gamescom
SEGAvangelist
Member
What's funny about this? Would be good news right?
I think they will have their full XBox games and then the App Market place that includes windowsRT/indie games.
Including the indie games with the other apps allows them to say there won't be a seperate section for indie games by themselves.
funkystudent
Member
Huh,
I just realised GI has now ruined MS's big surprises for E3 and Gamescom this year.
At least this one was on purpose.
Anyway I am really curious what developers MS has got to showcase this change.
I just realised GI has now ruined MS's big surprises for E3 and Gamescom this year.
At least this one was on purpose.
Anyway I am really curious what developers MS has got to showcase this change.
IHaveCandy
Banned
Maybe will.i.am is the new secret CEO of MS's games division.
digoutyoursoul
Member
I think it looks average, not a must buy for me anyway
Dead Prince
Banned
probably the same indie that weren't shown at the past events.
A few months ago this was not being planned by them internally, and they explicitly said it wasn't going to be possible (and that was the clear message behind closed doors). There were even factions within Microsoft aware of the stupidity of the situation who were proactively looking for loopholes to effectively allow self publishing in a practical sense even if it wasn't technically the case.
This is a change in policy and strategy from earlier in the year, and the fact it isn't going to be ready at launch is evidence that this change is recent.
Great news for independent developers and publishers in any case. Looking forward to hearing more because the devil is in the details.
famousmortimer
Banned
Sony's gamescom surprise is going to be a bit more surprising. But this is a great move by MS. I was misinformed and thought the home unit was just going to be a debug unit... being an actual dev kit is awesome. It's obviously not going to be as powerful as the full fledged dev kit because you need overhead power... but for most indie games that's not an issue in the slightest.
I forgot that GI leaked all of the Titanfall info. I think that may explain why MS is upset with them more than just this. It'll be interesting to see if GI gets any MS exclusive info from now on.
Please be games, please be games, please be games
Would be amazing news. But we don't even know if retail XB1s are really doing to straight up be dev kits. I have a hard time believing that no publishers or developers will ever have to buy an XB1 "dev kit", but again, if they do, that would be quite incredible.
Words with Friends is supposedly coming to Xbox One, look at how it's being classified:
Why is my name not Dant Rambo?
Definitely, but given the attitudes of people close to MS like Kevin Dent saying that this has been in development for years and not to expect Sony to follow suit (he said that on Twitter), I would still laugh a little if Sony just came out and said they're doing it, too.
I would put down a $5 that Dent will be on stage for some indie love-in for the MS show at Gamescom this year.
So you won't be able to self publish at launch or XBOX's can't become dev kits at launch? I'm confused.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Pretty great news. It's amazing how much MS has reneged on much of their vision for Xbox One after PS4 started getting positive buzz. THIS is why competition is good, now imagine if all the idiots out there who wanted Sony gone had their way. They'd be stuck with MS's original Xbox One plan.
Yea...fuck that noise.
Yea...fuck that noise.
In a sandbox-y fashion they've done it with all their systems to one degree or another. Except maybe PSP. And they probably will make PS4 a PSM client, which would make every PS4 a debug unit for that platform.
Easy access to sandboxes is welcome if a system must be closed...but nowadays it should be an additional, not THE answer for devs who want to self publish native games.
la flama blanca
Banned
ahahah, friggin MS and their vision. Wow. Thanks for the scoop Mario.
Words with Friends is supposedly coming to Xbox One, look at how it's being classified:
Probably because it's already purchased?
Not only that this picture literally shows jack shit in relation to anything.
Probably Games.
Sony said basically the exact same thing about numerous features, in February, 8+ months before we'll see the console...and they still won't be there at launch.
I dare you to say something positive about Microsoft. (and mean it, like I can with Sony and the Vita...which is awesome)
These companies can't just wave a magic wand and make fully realized features magically appear.
VMs.
maplelord93
Banned
Good news.
Though we still need to know the details of this..
Though we still need to know the details of this..
Glad to hear that they really are open to change and not just being stubborn.
FranXico
Member
They will definitely show off thatgamescompany latest new game (which won't be self-published).
Nothing. There focus on Indie Games was nothing.
Crimson_Gold
Member
You know something we don't?
He's famous. He knows things
From what was quoted earlier you need a PC. Code on your PC, test/run on your console. So that would be more debug unit than standalone dev kit.
I think he is pointing out the words with friends is a game and it's classified as an app right there.
Dead Prince
Banned
You love doing this to us
It's obviously The Last Guardian "hiatus" redefined.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Thanks for sharing.
Guess this is two steps forward one step back (or more). There are strings. Hopefully nothing terrible but this sounds like it's got plenty of them.
So your complaint is there will be more content? what?
Delusibeta
Banned
"It's not a ghetto if Netflix and Internet Explorer is in it, honest!"
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