TarpitCarnivore
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I thought the ESPN/ABC documentary was better than the FX series, but they're not directly comparable as they were two different types of shows.
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2016 Television Top 10 Lists
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I thought the ESPN/ABC documentary was better than the FX series, but they're not directly comparable as they were two different types of shows.
It does work so much better being able to binge, it's not filled with mysteries week to week to keep you guessing, and discussing. Season two probably could have been condensed to a 6 episode season like 1 and 3, easily the weakest.
Admiral Woofington
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gotta love how many people love Bojack.
The show not the character. Fuck the character.
The show not the character. Fuck the character.
Completely agree on the Bojack mentions too, only just started watching it about a month ago, nearing the end of the 3rd season. I honestly wouldn't have ever given the show a chance if I hadn't seen people on Gaf post about it so often in threads like "TV moments that make you sad" etc.
It's a shame that the pilot is its the weakest episode, but the strength of the show is in the culmination of everything that happened, and it has a lot of these moments.
It's a shame that the pilot is its the weakest episode, but the strength of the show is in the culmination of everything that happened, and it has a lot of these moments.
Generalpsyduck
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Bojack is my favorite show as well (at least until Rick & Morty comes back, and possibly even then).
Tied with Better Call Saul though. I never expected S1 to rival Breaking Bad, but it did. Then after that, I never expected S2 to top S1, but it did. Looking forward to S3 tremendously.
On my to-watch list:
Atlanta
Westworld (really enjoyed some of the loftier ideas in Person of Interest; this looks like it's kind of the prestige TV version with none of the network TV filler)
Mr Robot S2 (what's the GAFsensus: better, worse or about as good as S1?)
Tied with Better Call Saul though. I never expected S1 to rival Breaking Bad, but it did. Then after that, I never expected S2 to top S1, but it did. Looking forward to S3 tremendously.
On my to-watch list:
Atlanta
Westworld (really enjoyed some of the loftier ideas in Person of Interest; this looks like it's kind of the prestige TV version with none of the network TV filler)
Mr Robot S2 (what's the GAFsensus: better, worse or about as good as S1?)
TarpitCarnivore
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It was good, but it wasn't better than some of the others on this list.
It's a show by Donald Glover about, well, life in Atlanta. He's an aspiring manager, his cousin aspiring rapper, his cousin's friend is fucking hilarious. It's a really good show.
AngmarsKing701
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Not a single one of those lists has Black Sails on it, making each of those lists ineligible to be taken seriously.
FX fell off hard after The Shield ended. I'm glad the quality is back.
Really should get around to catching up on The Americans. I liked, didn't love the first season, and watched the premiere of the second, but the scheduling made me fall behind on it, and I told myself I'd catch up after the season finished. Forgot about it completely after that.
TarpitCarnivore
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The first half of the second season is a little sloppy. Wife and I enjoyed season 1, but 2 really lost us. I decided to come back a few months later and powered through and I'm so happy I did. The writers, and actors, do a wonderful job of story telling. Every person has something compelling to be invested in. I'm slowly growing tired of Stan but I think they're "fixing" that based on how the story plays out.
If you enjoy the espionage mixed with life events thing I highly recommend Deutschland 83 http://www.sundance.tv/series/deutschland-83
I don't think FX's quality has been a sudden development or that it fell off for a long timeSheild ended in 2008, by 2010 they'd added Louie, Justified, Terriers (remains criminally underseen), and Archer. They've certainly had drama duds (Lights Out) and purely-for-profit crap comedies (Anger Management), but overall they've steadily been a network with at least 2 or 3 worthwhile shows at all times.
MrS
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It's a lot better than a lot of the shows the list, and it's just the beginning. Season 1 was thoroughly enjoyable and hopefully it will get what it deserves during awards season, especially in the performance categories.
All of Marvel's street level shows are more like crime dramas than the typical superhero show. When they're making a TV show that is mostly crime drama, that's a genre that is going to get some serious competition.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Only one CW show? And the worst one?
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RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
The only show that keeps popping up on these lists that I'm a bit baffled by is Veep. The show went from being a sharp satire in its first 4 seasons to a cartoon in its 5th. It was an amusing season, but it was far from being one of the top comedies of the year.
Stumpokapow
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there are 500 shows on the tv and the CW basically produces comfort food for comic book nerds *shrug*
i agree, such a disappointing season. probably it stayed on people's minds because there was so much politics this year and the stupidity of it all made veep feel more relevant. or maybe they genuinely loved it and i'm being obnoxious by assuming things idk.
Yeah, pretty much fanboy stuff that is never going to be critically acclaimed.
If there's a comic TV show exception, I think it's Gotham. It's not a superhero show, it's a super villain show. All of the other superhero shows mostly do a piss poor job at villain character development. Gotham is over the top with a big dose of silly, but man, I love that show.
Uno Venova
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Just saw B.A.N and now fully understand why Atlanta is on so many lists.
JLD is critic and Emmy kyrptonite.
dead souls
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It's not TV, it's HBO.
When they can score a writing Emmy for the bad pussy episode of Game of Thrones you know people have lost the ability to correctly assess the quality of its shows.
firehawk12
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Arondight
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Disappointing with the lack of Black Sails mentions.Last two seasons have been top notch. Silver and Flint probably one of my most interesting relations/interactions I've seen so far in TV.
Other Television I've watched this year that have caught my interest are
Planet Earth II
Westworld
War and Peace
Stranger Things
and though it was not released this year but rather end of last year, I found And then there were None a pretty solid adaptation.
Other Television I've watched this year that have caught my interest are
Planet Earth II
Westworld
War and Peace
Stranger Things
and though it was not released this year but rather end of last year, I found And then there were None a pretty solid adaptation.
mariachi507
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There was still Justified.
War and Peace was amazing. It feels like hardly anyone watched it.
ZackieChan
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I stopped watching around episode 5. It bored me to tears. Is the payoff good? I'll pick it up again.
Gotta watch Rectify and The Americans...
And Damages, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Terriers, Archer, Fargo, You're the Worst... Combined with Justified, OJ, The Americans, and Atlanta, their output has been better than HBO's over the last ten years or so.
ZackieChan
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Goddamn that OJ show was good. Except the weird Kardashian references
TarpitCarnivore
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The big reveal was figured out within 2 episodes by the internet. You could probably just watch the last 2, or even final, episode and feel caught up.
There's more to a good show than a performance. The acting was pretty good, especially by Evan Rachel Wood and Thandie Newton, but the actual story telling was bad.
The payoff is pretty much exactly what you would predict.
Did you ultimately enjoy Lost? Then you'll probably also like Westworld. If you found Lost to be a waste of time in the end, or never enjoyed it, then Westworld is not going to be good enough
The people's choice.
Intheflorsh
Banned
The People Vs O.J. was probably my favorite show this year and Vice Principals was the best surprise.
Westworld is what I call "high fluff", it's beautifully shot, well acted, ultimately disposable entertainment. It's sort of like what Game of Thrones became.
Westworld is what I call "high fluff", it's beautifully shot, well acted, ultimately disposable entertainment. It's sort of like what Game of Thrones became.
The right shows are recurring, most these lists are credible, certainly more so than the Emmys, which is strange as I thought most the people doing these lists are the people who decide the Emmys, or their ilk.
It was a step down, loose and bumpy, but based on the quality of writing in previous seasons they believed in good faith that they were watching the pieces of logically thought out character arcs that would be delivered on in later seasons. This season cured them of their belief.
MrS
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Are you referring to the
true identity of the Man In Black? That wasn't the big reveal of the episode. The big reveals were finding out what was at the centre of the maze and finding out what Ford's new narrative was. Neither of those were solved by episode 2.
'You could probably just watch the last 2, or even final, episode and feel caught up.'
This could probably be applied to half of the shows on the list - the last 2 episodes in a season usually tie up a lot of narrative strands, as you know.
The show is legit amazing though...
This. This was the episode when I realized we truly have something special on our hands.
Cornballer
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One more:
Bits N Pieces
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I need to check out The Americans and Atlanta, seen most of the others.
streetsahead123
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The Americans, Bojack, and Rectify were probably my favorites this year. Still need to watch Atlanta. Nice to see Crazy Ex-Girlfriend getting a lot of love too. GoT and Westworld were good this year but not top tier IMO. And I loved season 2 of Mr. Robot after the horrible first four episodes of the season (and I didn't particularly care for season 1).
The one inclusion I don't get is The Girlfriend Experience. I watched all of it and thought it was okay. It reminds me of Mr. Robot in a way where good performances and distinctive cinematography seem to be tricking people into thinking the show is better than it is.
The one inclusion I don't get is The Girlfriend Experience. I watched all of it and thought it was okay. It reminds me of Mr. Robot in a way where good performances and distinctive cinematography seem to be tricking people into thinking the show is better than it is.
Cornballer
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A few more:
TarpitCarnivore
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Alan Sepinwall just dropped his list
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