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[IXI FalcoN]

But we want to know when it's being fixed. Breaking things and then promising to fix them later is not acceptable game development.

Here's a gif of what we're talking about

Been playing ODST since the patch so I haven't experienced it first hand, but hoooooooooooly shit that is BAD. It's really obvious they don't play test their patches. That should have been discovered within a minute of a CE match by anyone who knows a damn about the game.

The roller coaster ride with this game is so fucking old at this point. I feel like a battered housewife who can't walk away.

 

[FyreWulff]

What I got from this thread is that there exists a thing in console shooters called 'bullet magnetism'.

That's an actual thing that exists, apparently.

It exists in PC shooters as well. It's a component of making first person shooters work over the internet. It's generally tweaked per-game.

 

[watership]

"You are wrong for the following reasons". Well,..okay.

I have a feeling that 343 had the patch ready to go, and then they found this bug crop up, and decided to let to go out anyway. Also Halo 1 online has never been good. Even on PC. So.. I guess I'm wrong.

 

[Scully Scully Scoo]

i was playing h3 yesterday and got massive framerate dip on highgrounds, dont know how common this is because i dont play the game much but apart from matchmaking problems this is the biggest issue ive had.

 

[ProvenDeadly]

You mean $200 on a collectors edition that has mentioned no details whatsoever?

Lets do it!

Yes, but 343 says everything will be A Okay so I'm already selling off some of my prized possessions to be able to afford it!!!!

 

[InsaneTiger]

Yes, but 343 says everything will be A Okay so I'm already selling off some of my prized possessions to be able to afford it!!!!

343 and MS have never, ever, done me wrong.

 

[Boof]

aim at body mass and then pull up for the headshot scrub

this is basic gun discipline 101

Gotta be troll right?

 

[OnPoint]

It's funny because Halo CE could have been the thing to get me to buy an Xbox One. But the constant mishandling of this game has been a big red flag.

 

[Lanrutcon]

It exists in PC shooters as well. It's a component of making first person shooters work over the internet. It's generally tweaked per-game.

Ah. it's like...lag compensation?

 

[FyreWulff]

Gotta be troll right?

1v1 me in XBC Halo 1

send FR to my username: o_xX_KSI_FyreWulff_Xx_o

 

[Jigorath]

But we want to know when it's being fixed. Breaking things and then promising to fix them later is not acceptable game development.

Here's a gif of what we're talking about

I haven't touched the game since January. Still have no desire to go back. What a trainwreck.

 

[MysteryM]

The current patch also kills the menu music sometimes in matchmaking. They've added who's talking in game to H2A but the font text is too big, and overlaps.

They really do make stupid mistakes. On the plus side, they fixed the underscore in the menu.

 

[Not a Jellyfish]

Yea no longer voting for it, noticed it a day or two ago when I went from 3 shotting with pistol to almost a clip.

Terrible.

 

[Memorabilia]

I'm still struggling to understand just how exactly MS let 343 turn their flagship franchise into a total cluster-fuck. Outsourcing patches? Lol If true...I dont even....

Just Mind-boggling.

 

[Diddy Kong]

You could have stopped at "343 has pretty much ruined Halo"

 

[ProvenDeadly]

I'm still struggling to understand just how exactly MS let 343 turn their flagship franchise into a total cluster-fuck. Outsourcing patches? Lol If true...I dont even....

Just Mind-boggling.

Maybe they are being brainwashed.

 

[bakeray]

I haven't turned my Xbox on since like Jan/Feb cus of this fiasco. People have been asking me to come back saying it's better.

I definitely won't be back until they fix this, that .gif is terrible.

 

[onken]

But we want to know when it's being fixed. Breaking things and then promising to fix them later is not acceptable game development.

Here's a gif of what we're talking about

Yeah that's really fucking bad.

 

[Head.spawn]

Well, they said it was unintentional and will be fixed. Not the end if the world.

 

[Boof]

1v1 me in XBC Halo 1

send FR to my username: o_xX_KSI_FyreWulff_Xx_o

lol

 

[VariantX]

But we want to know when it's being fixed. Breaking things and then promising to fix them later is not acceptable game development.

Here's a gif of what we're talking about

That is pretty awful. How did no one catch that before sending that patch out to people?

 

[ProvenDeadly]

Well, they said it was unintentional and will be fixed. Not the end if the world.

They literally break something with every single patch. This isn't acceptable for a AAA Dev.

 

[Diablohead]

MCC has a serious case of patching something in while breaking something else.

When it comes a collection of 5 game engines is there not a way to patch each chunk seperately? a limitation to live's update process or just something the devs never looked into?

The guy in the gif posted above is spraying that pistol to the point where even in normal halo 1 you would miss half of those shots, you have to pace each shot to stop spread.

 

[mcfrank]

Well, they said it was unintentional and will be fixed. Not the end if the world.

Why wasn't that caught before shipping? Stop making excuses for them

 

[watership]

Well, they said it was unintentional and will be fixed. Not the end if the world.

Any mistakes in patches, which happens all the time, especially on this game is going to get people screaming. They will fix eight things and break one and some people will freak.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Unbelievable. Microsoft probably can't wait until Halo 5 is out, so they can put MCC behind them, whether it works or not.

 

[nubbe]

Pre order Halo 5 now plz

 

[Head.spawn]

Why wasn't that caught before shipping? Stop making excuses for them

How is that an excuse?

Maybe you replied to the wrong person?

 

[Zombegoast]

But we want to know when it's being fixed. Breaking things and then promising to fix them later is not acceptable game development.

Here's a gif of what we're talking about

Is this Halo PC?

 

[E92 M3]

You guys are funny if you think 343 is working on this. They may have one or two people, but everything else is outsourced like the game itself. Every time I think about the state MCC released in, I am baffled by what Microsoft did with its flagship franchise.

 

[Lothars]

Unbelievable. Microsoft probably can't wait until Halo 5 is out, so they can put MCC behind them, whether it works or not.

They need to make sure Halo 5 works and right now 343 has proven again and again with Halo MCC that they are not getting it right, so faith should be at an all time low for Halo 5 until they prove it.

 

[Head.spawn]

Is this Halo PC?

Actually yes it is, which is probably where a lot of issues stem from.

I suppose it would've taken too long to port OG Xbox version and add online multiplayer, as opposed to reporting the already ported Halo PC.

 

[NickFire]

Pictured: The MCC Patch Team

By now it's obvious that 343 either has their C-Team making patches for this game, or they straight up outsourced patching. It's ridiculous how many patches have ended up breaking things rather than fixing them. Everything regarding MCC has been completely unacceptable and 343 has lost all benefit of the doubt for me.

That pic is awesome.

Hopefully for Halo fans your guess is right regarding who is working on these patches. Though, even if you are, does that really bode well for 5?

 

[OCD Guy]

Well, they said it was unintentional and will be fixed. Not the end if the world.

This is why the gaming industry is the way that it is.

They know that people will just accept things. If people wouldn't accept things, and not give them their money they'd think twice.

But as things stand, it's acceptable to release a broken game, and sometimes never ever truly fix it. This gen has had more than its fair share of broken games at launch.

It wouldn't be acceptable on a cheap indie game, but a game like Halo?? There's no excuse for it. They've got the budgets in place to thoroughly test these games. It's obviously inevitable that a game will have minor bugs, but they're releasing truly broken games.

I want to pick up an Xbox one for halo but the talk of "broken" puts me off, then I read how it's mostly fixed, and then then bam, read shit like this.

 

[FyreWulff]

Is this Halo PC?

MCC Halo 1 is based off Halo PC

Actually yes it is, which is probably where a lot of issues stem from.

I suppose it would've taken too long to port OG Xbox version and add online multiplayer, as opposed to reporting the already ported Halo PC.

Xbox Halo 1 is unusable for internet play.

 

[BabyFaceKillah]

Why 343

 

[backflip10019]

But we want to know when it's being fixed. Breaking things and then promising to fix them later is not acceptable game development.

Here's a gif of what we're talking about

Wow, so it's even more unplayable than it was at launch? Why, 343? Why?

 

[Diablohead]

Pictured: The MCC Patch Team

By now it's obvious that 343 either has their C-Team making patches for this game, or they straight up outsourced patching. It's ridiculous how many patches have ended up breaking things rather than fixing them. Everything regarding MCC has been completely unacceptable and 343 has lost all benefit of the doubt for me.

As someone who's not excited for Halo 5 at all after the beta, it's extra frustrating that I can't go back and play accurate representations of the classic games on my XB1.

Wasn't the big MP update patch a few months ago made by an outside team? then then following month's patch fixed some other things but they forgot to include all the original fixes and had to re-patch it back in?

Such a mess.

 

[PerezDeCorcho]

But we want to know when it's being fixed. Breaking things and then promising to fix them later is not acceptable game development.

Here's a gif of what we're talking about

Absolutely pathetic.

 

[E92 M3]

Wasn't the big MP update patch a few months ago made by an outside team? then then following month's patch fixed some other things but they forgot to include all the original fixes and had to re-patch it back in?

Such a mess.

lol did that really happen? It's unfortunate that MCC was only game in many recent years that I wasted money on. I literally played it for 2 hours and never touched it again. Regret very much not getting a refund.

 

[watership]

This is why the gaming industry is the way that it is.

They know that people will just accept things. If people wouldn't accept things, and not give them their money they'd think twice.

But as things stand, it's acceptable to release a broken game, and sometimes never ever truly fix it. This gen has had more than its fair share of broken games at launch.

It wouldn't be acceptable on a cheap indie game, but a game like Halo?? There's no excuse for it. They've got the budgets in place to thoroughly test these games. It's obviously inevitable that a game will have minor bugs, but they're releasing truly broken games.

I want to pick up an Xbox one for halo but the talk of "broken" puts me off, then I read how it's mostly fixed, and then then bam, read shit like this.

If you're talking about the whole MCC debacle history, then yes it released as a broken online experience. The game is not broken now, but I still don't like the time for matchmaking, but that comes and goes, probably due to population. For this particular patch has a bug that was introduced to halo CE. It worked fine previously so there is no reason to expect it wont be fixed.

 

[Dylan Sexbang]

While I have faith in 5 bring up to par at launch,MCC is as close to beyond repair as you can get. The community is ded, and the population has forsaken it probably in favor of destiny. The numerous bugs and issues that arise in the game are absurd, and sometimes you can't even get it to work half decent.

The ridiculous amount of patches thrown at the game seems like whoever is putting them out is slapping you in the face to heal a gunshot, while saying see now you don't feel the gunshot! The truth is your face is fucking throbbing while the gunshot is still bleeding!

Luckily, the campaigns are somewhat working, I can give them that at least. I really hope 343i does Halo 5 justice and gets their shit straight. I don't want another year of Destiny when the Halo 5 beta was so good. And I guarantee the entire 343 studio does not want a repeat, because this is their final chance be it for their team or the halo name.

 

[Head.spawn]

This is why the gaming industry is the way that it is.

They know that people will just accept things. If people wouldn't accept things, and not give them their money they'd think twice.

But as things stand, it's acceptable to release a broken game, and sometimes never ever truly fix it. This gen has had more than its fair share of broken games at launch.

It wouldn't be acceptable on a cheap indie game, but a game like Halo?? There's no excuse for it. They've got the budgets in place to thoroughly test these games. It's obviously inevitable that a game will have minor bugs, but they're releasing truly broken games.

I want to pick up an Xbox one for halo but the talk of "broken" puts me off, then I read how it's mostly fixed, and then then bam, read shit like this.

Well I didn't think I posted an "excuse", but you are the second person to say I did so it must come off that way.

The way I see it, the game still has a ton of flaws, many things that aren't completely fixed. They still need a ton of patching before I would consider their effort adequate, so a single issue out of all the shit wrong with the game, I see as relatively "not the end of the world", especially since it has been acknowledged by someone who can point it out to the patch team and he said it is being corrected.

I never said, "who cares, it's being fixed, it's acceptable that they went three steps forward and one back." I just didn't post raw hyperbole, and to some people that isn't acceptable.

 

[ps3ud0]

lol did that really happen? It's unfortunate that MCC was only game in many recent years that I wasted money on. I literally played it for 2 hours and never touched it again. Regret very much not getting a refund.

I cant see why you cant still get a refund. Its already past 200 days so I think in its current state you should have a case to argue...

ps3ud0 8)

 

[JumPeRJumPzZ]

Keep making excuses for them. It is their name on the box so it is their responsibility.

Im not making excuses. Im simply telling people how it is.


Halo 5 Beta worked, even with that unfinished UI/Matchmaking.


MMC, a outsourced mess got glued together by different companys.

Yes 343 is on the Box, but it doesnt change the fact.

 

[Jomjom]

I heard Other Ocean is looking for work, 343 might want to get them working on this.

 

[spootime]

Im not making excuses. Im simply telling people how it is.


Halo 5 Beta worked, even with that unfinished UI/Matchmaking.


MMC, a outsourced mess got glued together by different companys.

Yes 343 is on the Box, but it doesnt change the fact.

I don't think people really debate that Halo 5 will be in a much better state than MCC. The question is just whether you want to support a company that essentially stole $60 dollars right out of your wallet by buying their new game on launch day.

 

[E92 M3]

I cant see why you cant still get a refund. Its already past 200 days so I think in its current state you should have a case to argue...

ps3ud0 8)

I just don't think they will give a refund so far down the line. Maybe it's worth a try, though.

 

[CloudyTuba]

I still dont get any zoom sounds from the pistol or sniper on Halo 1. A previous patch took it away, a new patch put it back, then another patch took it away again and it's been gone ever since.

Is it just me or what?

 

[jelly]

Microsoft staring at the calender.

"Halo 5 is x days away from launch, they won't care about MCC eventually"

I think Microsoft will probably be quite content with the single player working and multiplayer sort of working in the end then call it day. It won't be worth the resources as user numbers decline, might be at that point already.