EDIT: Wait, I'm a backer for Mighty No. 9 and haven't noticed any drama about that beyond the kinda dumb looking crossover with the Yaiba game, though I haven't joined the backer forums yet. What's that controversy over?
Comcept gets a female Comunity Manager that was friends with them, is fan of Femenist Frequency and posted a gender bender Beck in her first community interaction.
Some fans explode, think that the game is going to be "influenced" by the "feminist agenda", want a refund, anons draw animations and comics about their favorites character beating Gender Bender Beck and the White Knights Men.
Comcept, Inafune and the rational part of the community don't care about it.
Has anyone mentioned that this looks like some half-baked marketing ruse?
4chan doesn't refer to themselves as a club of exclusively depressed individuals and /v/ had no idea who she was prior to this. Did ANYONE know who she was prior to this fiasco? How can someone possibly "hate this cunt" when not much is known about her? Not even 4chan is that unreasonable and assuming this was posted on /v/ the OP would not have been taken seriously. They even linked her personal site rather than the Steam page.
Either way my point stands. She's clearly eating up the attention. Most rational individuals wouldn't pay any mind to some insult mentioned on a random message board.
Has anyone mentioned that this looks like some half-baked marketing ruse?
4chan doesn't refer to themselves as a club of exclusively depressed individuals and /v/ had no idea who she was prior to this. Did ANYONE know who she was prior to this fiasco? How can someone possibly "hate this cunt" when not much is known about her? Not even 4chan is that unreasonable and assuming this was posted on /v/ the OP would not have been taken seriously. They even linked her personal site rather than the Steam page.
Either way my point stands. She's clearly eating up the attention. Most rational individuals wouldn't pay any mind to some insult mentioned on a random message board.
Either way my point stands. She's clearly eating up the attention. Most rational individuals wouldn't pay any mind to some insult mentioned on a random message board.
I agree with you man but you won't win this battle. I see a few bans in here from victim blaming too. Best to just keep it to yourself then risk the ban.
Has anyone mentioned that this looks like some half-baked marketing ruse?
4chan doesn't refer to themselves as a club of exclusively depressed individuals and /v/ had no idea who she was prior to this. Did ANYONE know who she was prior to this fiasco? How can someone possibly "hate this cunt" when not much is known about her? Not even 4chan is that unreasonable and assuming this was posted on /v/ the OP would not have been taken seriously. They even linked her personal site rather than the Steam page.
Either way my point stands. She's clearly eating up the attention. Most rational individuals wouldn't pay any mind to some insult mentioned on a random message board.
Are we going to keep eating away at this or can we leave it be? I see a 4chan-like post and yes, I assume it's from there. I had to go back to see proof that it wasn't.
Guys, I can't believe we didn't see it before. MikeXXleaf is clearly a detective on some next level savant like shit. That's it, I'm pulling my support for Depression Quest!
It's so weird that as a culture we have growing pains just like we all go through as people. I guess we're still young as an internet society and eventually we'll get better in general and instances like this will be in the minority?
Are we going to keep eating away at this or can we leave it be? I see a 4chan-like post and yes, I assume it's from there. I had to go back to see proof that it wasn't.
The issue really isn't that you thought it was 4chan, it's that you'd rather condemn her for caring about being harassed than acknowledge how out of line the harassment was.
It's so weird that as a culture we have growing pains just like we all go through as people. I guess we're still young as an internet society and eventually we'll get better in general and instances like this will be in the minority?
Yeah. Even though some people would like to think this is just an issue GAF likes to mull over too much, it's not. Seems even the industry people are getting tired of some of these attitudes. A really long and angry blog post concerning this by one of Remedy's lead writers was going around the twitterverse just last week.
The issue really isn't that you thought it was 4chan, it's that you'd rather condemn her for caring about being harassed than acknowledge how out of line the harassment was.
There are 9 pages of that and I'd rather express another point that I feel is valid, not contribute to what the mob feels. I think you can take it on good faith that I don't condone this animalistic behavior. If not then oh well.
There are 9 pages of that and I'd rather express another point that I feel is valid, not contribute to what the mob feels. I think you can take it on good faith that I don't condone this animalistic behavior. If not then oh well.
There are 9 pages of that and I'd rather express another point that I feel is valid, not contribute to what the mob feels. I think you can take it on good faith that I don't condone this animalistic behavior. If not then oh well.
Believing that she manipulated events so that several people spewed unreasonable vitriol at her to get her game Greenlit isn't as much a valid point as it is a conspiracy theory.
Issue is, they're quite effective at doing just that.
There's not really a whole lot of meaningful discussion you can have surrounding this particular instance since the offenders are just raging douchebags who have no lives to live. The defenders of such behaviors should probably be in people's ignore lists by default. If threads like these are the things required to shine a big fucking spotlight on people's deplorable behavior, I guess we should keep them around. For a little while anyway.
I mean shit, look at the bumped fury today. Dude didn't even read the first page of the thread before he went off on a victim blaming tangent. No one needs that.
I know I'll get stick for this, but I've been going to /v/ everyday since 2008 and I haven't seen any threads dedicated to abusing this person or her game.
Yes, there are hate threads about games and people in the industry who they perceive to have an agenda. But far more frequent are the threads discussing anxiety and dealing with social exclusion.
Since this story has cropped up, the people there have expressed nothing but sadness and confusion. Everytime 'depression quest' was brought up previously, there was genuine curiosity and doubt as to whether a game could really express the negative symptoms and anhedonia that so many on /v/ suffer from.
Despite past events involving other game creators, it wouldn't be fair for me to say the game creator is making this up for whatever reasom. What I can say is there is no evidence of /v/ users orchestrating a hate campaign against this game. If anything, the reactionary blaming the users there has lead to the same feelings of hopelessness and exclusion that this game is ostensibly trying to make us aware of.
There have been plenty of cases recently of people using social media to stir up, manufacture, or even outright lie about some controversy, harassment, etc. in order to reap the benefits of support once shit goes viral. She could be a completely innocent victim or someone who is fabricating this whole thing or anything in between.
We've seen why people exaggerate, instigate, or make up incidents of harassment. It gets them attention, support, and often money. From a waitress claiming customers left her no tip because she was gay to the transgendered person being called "it" by some comic, we've recently seen plenty of victim exaggeration and outright bullshit that seeks to capitalize on social media.
The bottom line is we have no idea how much of this is real. I believe it's possible that idiots on some chan got her phone number and the harassment train rolled out. I also believe it's possible that this was planned in order to get attention for the game.
The most ridiculous aspect of all of this is the way people jump to a conclusion about how genuine a story is. If it's negative news or something offensive, the internet tends to believe it, if it's positive news or something cool, people will suspect it's bullshit posted for "karma", "likes", whatever. It's the social media version of "if it bleeds, it leads". I still don't know if that dog was left out in the cold weather ans rescued by the other poster or not.
I'm leaning toward not, because the picture does not depict a malnourished dog - it shows a healthy dog with a great coat.
I hear the entire dev team at volition needs to listen to a gay sex porn shoot over the phone before their games can get discounted on Steam.
Issue is, they're quite effective at doing just that.
There's not really a whole lot of meaningful discussion you can have surrounding this particular instance since the offenders are just raging douchebags who have no lives to live. The defenders of such behaviors should probably be in people's ignore lists by default. If threads like these are the things required to shine a big fucking spotlight on people's deplorable behavior, I guess we should keep them around. For a little while anyway.
I mean shit, look at the bumped fury today. Dude didn't even read the first page of the thread before he went off on a victim blaming tangent. No one needs that.
True. At least some of the more deplorable people who post on this board can be weeded out. Guess that's a positive. The reality is, sometimes there is not meaningful debate to have. Everyone is entitled to an opinion no matter how vile or idiotic. What they are not entitled to is using any specific forum as a sounding board for their idiocy. Glad some get banned.
There have been plenty of cases recently of people using social media to stir up, manufacture, or even outright lie about some controversy, harassment, etc. in order to reap the benefits of support once shit goes viral. She could be a completely innocent victim or someone who is fabricating this whole thing or anything in between.
We've seen why people exaggerate, instigate, or make up incidents of harassment. It gets them attention, support, and often money. From a waitress claiming customers left her no tip because she was gay to the transgendered person being called "it" by some comic, we've recently seen plenty of victim exaggeration and outright bullshit that seeks to capitalize on social media.
The bottom line is we have no idea how much of this is real. I believe it's possible that idiots on some chan got her phone number and the harassment train rolled out. I also believe it's possible that this was planned in order to get attention for the game.
The most ridiculous aspect of all of this is the way people jump to a conclusion about how genuine a story is. If it's negative news or something offensive, the internet tends to believe it, if it's positive news or something cool, people will suspect it's bullshit posted for "karma", "likes", whatever. It's the social media version of "if it bleeds, it leads". I still don't know if that dog was left out in the cold weather ans rescued by the other poster or not.
I'm leaning toward not, because the picture does not depict a malnourished dog - it shows a healthy dog with a great coat.
You might be banned for saying that but I totally agree. I was shocked reading this thread from the start that not a single person even considered the idea she could be lying.
I mean jacking off on the phone....really? Show me the receipts.
Anyway doesn't matter now. Her game will be on steam, truth or not so whatever
Forget the drama, text-based or no the scenarios in it remind me of a lot of things that went on in my life in the past.
There have been numerous days where I just had to go home and stare into space without focusing on anything, I'm in a much better situation now but I remember those rare times when everything was just physically painful or unimaginable..it nearly made me flunk out of my last semester of college.
Maybe I don't know what major depression is like, but I know what it feels like to be depressed and she did a hell of a job of conveying that here and should be celebrated for it. Even if she hadn't she wouldn't have deserved the abuse.
