No more HEX, please. They refined it a lot in Wild ARMs 5, but the HEX system was never a good battle system.
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A new Wild Arms may be possible?
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No more HEX, please. They refined it a lot in Wild ARMs 5, but the HEX system was never a good battle system.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Milk nostalgia (it works on many!)
D/L
Keep the tech PSX level.
Cross-play PS3/4/Vita
I failed to reply to the previous quoter, but this is how it's going to be: large overseas sales, maybe some nostalgic native middle-aged players who remember their time with it nigh 20 years ago fondly.
Actually it was a great battle system.
DangerMouse
Member
Agreed, really liked fighting in WA5.
Please do it SCEJ...
Yes. Loved the hell out of WA3 (actually all of them, I guess 3, 1 and 5 were probably my favs but they were all amazing).
Virginia was awesome too.
Please do it SCEJ...
Yes. Loved the hell out of WA3 (actually all of them, I guess 3, 1 and 5 were probably my favs but they were all amazing).
Virginia was awesome too.
A really friendly person translated it
http://oreiro-sky.tumblr.com/post/81591468931/wild-arms-news-kaneko-akifumi-blog-translation
She is super nice so instead of copy pasting visit her blog and read up.
Thanks for the link! And man, Kaneko always come across as being such a nice guy, I keep track of his blog and try to make do with translations given by some friends, he's always really pumped about his works and seems to love them to death. When he mentions Symphogear and how he hasn't forgotten WA, it's definitely true -- there are A LOT of Wild ARMs references scattered through Symphogear, from random terminology such as Ka Dingel to more subtle stuff, like using quotes from WA characters here and there.
And lol, I lost it with the Maji Love 2000% bit. He and Agematsu seem to have a good friendship going on there, they've been working on Symphogear together for a good while now too. I hope that, if WA6 happens, they'll be together in it again. With Naruke as well! A collab :V
And lol, I lost it with the Maji Love 2000% bit. He and Agematsu seem to have a good friendship going on there, they've been working on Symphogear together for a good while now too. I hope that, if WA6 happens, they'll be together in it again. With Naruke as well! A collab :V
BoilersFan23
Member
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/04/04/new-wild-arms-works-still-far-awaya/
It seems like a new Wild Arms is coming, but still very far away (meaning they just recently started).
It seems like a new Wild Arms is coming, but still very far away (meaning they just recently started).
The Praiseworthy
Member
SONY should release their PS2 exclusives on the PSN as PS2 Classics... I want to play Wild Arms 5 soooooooo baaaaaaadly !!!!!
vagabondarts
Member
This would be great. I've always wanted to play WA5.
Passed it over in the PS2 days (there was too much to play).
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
I just hope they realize one the weakest elements for the series is the writing and deal with this. I'd prefer a mature story with realistic characterizations without all the convoluted story points.
Triggerhappytel
Member
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tmcase/Results/4/EU000826271
Trade mark WILD ARMS
Status Registered
Filing date 12 May 1998
Date of entry in register 08 September 1999
Renewal date 12 May 2018
Class 9 - Computer and video games; computer and video game programs; audio and video recordings; phonograph records, cassettes, tapes, compact discs, video discs, magnetic data media.
Class 16 - Printed matter; books; publications; stationery.
Class 28 - Toys; games and playthings; electronic handheld games.
Holder's name - Sony Computer Entertainment UK Limited
25 Golden Square, London, United Kingdom, W1R 6LU
Representative - BOULT WADE TENNANT
Verulam Gardens 70 Gray's Inn Road, London, United Kingdom, WC1X 8BT
First advert Journal : 1999/016 Date of publication : 08 March 1999
I know I'm a couple of days late with this, but it's definitely Sony's. Which means their reluctance to bring it to Vita is all the more puzzling. Surely they could, at least, get a 20 or 30 person team in Japan Studio working on it. Heck, make it a digital release using Phyre Engine and surely it wouldn't exactly be a drain on resources?!
EDIT - also, I don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but I only really have experience of the first game in the Wild Arms series, but I still love this intro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq8EKttSu3I
Uhm
Sounds like they started a long time ago but probably just planing and sketching.
O can't understand why they haven't.
Nightengale
Member
Sony owns practically every IP they publish. Practically, because I think there's an outlier or two, but very rarely if at all.
What if they don't want to work on it? Forcing devs to work on something that they've never cared about internally doesn't seem like a good idea. Sony is better off funding an entirely new RPG that Japan Studio cares to make instead.
Furthermore, Wild Arms isn't exactly a popular IP either. Logically, if they'd want to bring back Wild Arms, it cannot be a half-assed job, otherwise it's no different from taking it from the closet only to stab it in the chest.
What if they don't want to work on it? Forcing devs to work on something that they've never cared about internally doesn't seem like a good idea. Sony is better off funding an entirely new RPG that Japan Studio cares to make instead.
Furthermore, Wild Arms isn't exactly a popular IP either. Logically, if they'd want to bring back Wild Arms, it cannot be a half-assed job, otherwise it's no different from taking it from the closet only to stab it in the chest.
WTF are you talking about? If it's not popular, why did they make the original, 4 sequels, XF for PSP and remake of the first one on PS2? Maybe its not a popular series with you, but I think it's at least somewhat popular, just look at this thread.
I, for one, would love another Wild Arms, one of my top favorite RPG series of all time.
KingItachi
Member
Hades Hotgun
Banned
Siliconera had an article stating that the WIld Arms games did not work with the PS2 emulator on PS3. I would guess that the best chance for those games to come back would be with the rumored local PS2 emulation on PS4, but that probably won't get released prior to PSNow.
GloriousBagel
Banned
hype intensifies.
ChronotriggerJM
Member
I personally feel that Wild Arms 2 and it's skill system was unmatched for a while in the RPG space, but I also adored the hex system, and the SRPG. Holy crap this series is amazing.
Nightengale
Member
Popular in the broadest sense. While the franchise seems to have found moderate success in Japan, it seemed at least that it wasn't true overseas, as SCE didn't bother bringing Wild Arms outside of Japan after 3. 4/5/XF were localised by 3rd-party publishers instead of Sony themselves.
Besides, I know wikipedia is unreliable without sources, but JP wiki states that Wild Arms 3 only sold around 270k, down from the highs of WA1/2 which was around 400k.
Subsequent sequel sales weren't mentioned there, but the PSP Wild Arms sold... 63k.
Assuming if true, that does not reflect a strong franchise. And I'd be inclined to believe it to an extent... Wild Arms and Arc the Lad have always been treated as a 2nd-tier RPG franchise by Sony, compared to what they push in the forefront like Rogue Galaxy or White Knight Chronicles.
Train of Midnight
Banned
vagabondarts
Member
Wild Metal Arms
drtomoe123
Member
I've never been much of a fan of the WA series, but I'd definitely be happy to see a new entry in the series. Hope this actually turns into a game somewhere down the road.
Triggerhappytel
Member
True, if there's no drive from within then maybe they shouldn't bother. However, I think it's a little unfair to say the series doesn't have a following. Just because it's not a huge RPG series a la Tales or Final Fantasy doesn't make it irrelevant or not worth bothering with. Sony just needs to put some development effort behind it and actually market it this time around.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
I don't remember the exact amounts but I remember seeing sales figures for Wild Arms 4 & 5 in North America in one of the NPD threads here and it was not pretty. Low 5 digits not-pretty.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
Didn't XSeed recently say it was impossible to release WA5 on PSN because of some technical issue?
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/03/24/dont-expect-see-ps2-wild-arms-games-playstation-network-ps3/
Also, whatever they got in the works, I hope it takes more artistic direction from the first 3 WA games and not WA4 and 5. Gotta have a heavy emphasis on the "Wild West" setting. WA4 looked like it was more inspired by the early 20th century era and WA5 was all strange(like it took all the WA games, WA4 included, and some other ideas like REALLY futuristic media societies and threw them in a blender).
As for exploration, I found it odd how the first three were pretty standard traditional JRPG(world map and all), WA4 was super linear(FFX-esque, were it was basically one big path) and WA5 was full-scale world map(like DQ8). Would kill for another WA world like the last one(exploration-wise).
I think you're lumping Wild Arms 5's decent sales figures in with Wild Arms 4's bad sales figures.
WA4 wasn't good and deserved its bad sales (somewhere around 50,000 in the States).
WA5 was a pretty good, but not up to the standards of the earlier titles. It sold about 120,000 copies in the States. It's not amazing, but it's pretty good, and it's not as though there were a ton of copies shipped here. It was pretty hard to find.
Wild ARMs in Japan was a downhill kind of franchise:
PS1 : Wild Arms ( SCE ) { 1996-12-20 } - 116,393 / 415,138
PS1 : Wild Arms 2 ( SCE ) { 1999-09-02 } - 164,082 / 280,037
PS2 : Wild Arms 3 ( SCE ) { 2002-03-14 } - 156,997 / 273,318
PS2 : Wild Arms 3 [Playstation 2 the Best] ( SCE ) { 2002-11-07 } - 3,225 / 5,360
PS2 : Wild Arms Alter Code: F ( SCE ) { 2003-11-27 } - 102,543 / 167,254
PS2 : Wild Arms 4 ( SCE ) { 2005-03-24 } - 131,728 / 186,221
PS2 : Wild Arms 5 ( SCE ) { 2006-12-14 } - 68,789 / 117,975
PSP : Wild Arms XF ( SCE ) { 2007-08-09 } - 28,508 / 52,090
(Famitsu numbers)
It was definitely SCE's big JRPG IP though. You don't get seven games, manga, and a TV anime if you're just a second tier property.
PS1 : Wild Arms ( SCE ) { 1996-12-20 } - 116,393 / 415,138
PS1 : Wild Arms 2 ( SCE ) { 1999-09-02 } - 164,082 / 280,037
PS2 : Wild Arms 3 ( SCE ) { 2002-03-14 } - 156,997 / 273,318
PS2 : Wild Arms 3 [Playstation 2 the Best] ( SCE ) { 2002-11-07 } - 3,225 / 5,360
PS2 : Wild Arms Alter Code: F ( SCE ) { 2003-11-27 } - 102,543 / 167,254
PS2 : Wild Arms 4 ( SCE ) { 2005-03-24 } - 131,728 / 186,221
PS2 : Wild Arms 5 ( SCE ) { 2006-12-14 } - 68,789 / 117,975
PSP : Wild Arms XF ( SCE ) { 2007-08-09 } - 28,508 / 52,090
(Famitsu numbers)
It was definitely SCE's big JRPG IP though. You don't get seven games, manga, and a TV anime if you're just a second tier property.
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
The HEX system needs to be sped up a bit. Hopefully they implement a locked 30fps frame rate and make the menus and actions snappy. Maybe a speedup option. I was spoiled playing WA5 on my PC and emulator. Was able to use frame skip.
Those numbers make me sad, the series deserved better sales than that.
SteveO1683
Member
I'd love some rocket skates.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
THIS!
Speed up the battle system(fine tune the HEX system), keep WA5's massive world map(as in full scale world exploration that doesn't feel too big, but just right, like Dragon Quest 8)...
... keep this too!!
rocketskates
Member
Hype level rising!
WA5 got and still gets a lot of hate for some reason
I dont know why, to me it was like Skies of Arcadia
with a giant robot
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Was Alter Code F a good remake? It still hovers around $50 used, which is a huge turn off from getting it when the original is on PSN for way less.
I'm waiting for this rumored new Wild Arms to be announced as another strategy RPG.
I'm waiting for this rumored new Wild Arms to be announced as another strategy RPG.
Or a mobile phone game
jackissocool
Member
Possible announcement at TGS this year?
I got the first game for free a while ago on Vita. How does it holds up? I'm not a big JRPG fan but I'm interested in trying this out. What kind of experience am I in for?
Shouta
Member
Gets lot of hate because the story is super annoying. I felt like the scope was pretty constrained and that they could've made it a more enjoyable experience overall despite the good stuff.
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
Holds up extremely well. Music, dungeons, and characters are pitch perfect in my opinion. The battle system is a relic though. Timeless game to me otherwise but it could be nostalgia speaking, even though I replayed it for the uncounted time two years ago. Its definitely not just my youth speaking.
I agree with Shouta, the game went off in some awkward political, genocide commentary that was awkward when placed againest the care free nature of the main cast. It was like the writers wanted to draw in a younger crowd but create some sort of depth in the scenario writing. It was awful. Otherwise the game was enjoyable and showed what was possible with a modern Wild Arms.
UltraGunner
Banned
Hope it's for PS4.
Will probably be for Vita.
Will probably be for Vita.
Black Door
Banned
Yeah, WA6 should be an action RPG. The HEX system is fun but overcomplicated, and turn-based doesn't suit the "wild weird west" thing this series has going on. WA4's side scrolling field maps combined with contra-style action would be the sauce here
Gaylord Sweetwood
Member
Fantastic news. I will take pretty much any JRPG at this point. Wild Arms 1 was my favorite, but I did enjoy and beat 2 and 3 as well.
The most interesting thing about this news is that this game (if it ever comes to be) is most likely not the "Secret AAA Sony JRPG" as it sounds like they are barely any where in the development process.
The most interesting thing about this news is that this game (if it ever comes to be) is most likely not the "Secret AAA Sony JRPG" as it sounds like they are barely any where in the development process.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
DAY 0
Action RPG? Maybe if it's a spin-off like XF (which went full Tactics), but a mainline entry should remain a straight jRPG with the ability to interact with the environment via tools.
And to those quoting the downturn in sales: although I can't say the same for Japan, when Wild Arms first came to the west there was an absolute dearth in quality RPGs on Playstation in the days before FFVII hit. By the time Wild Arms 3 hit on PS2, competition was fierce with all kinds of rpgs were being localized. It's not surprising the series began to cede market share.
And to those quoting the downturn in sales: although I can't say the same for Japan, when Wild Arms first came to the west there was an absolute dearth in quality RPGs on Playstation in the days before FFVII hit. By the time Wild Arms 3 hit on PS2, competition was fierce with all kinds of rpgs were being localized. It's not surprising the series began to cede market share.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Oh shoot, Chaos Rings is by Wild Arms devs?
Didn't know!
Didn't know!
So an update on Kaneko's blog. http://d.hatena.ne.jp/WITCHCRAFT/touch/20140404/1396610129
He is basicly telling us to chill, nothing is decided and they'll wait and see how the Dokodemo Issyo promotion goes.
The comments seem pretty positive though. http://commu.jp.playstation.com/blog/details/20140401_toro_wildarms.html
So in other words, buy the merch, I know I will
He says a lot more but my Japanese is so basic its taking me forever to translate it.
He is basicly telling us to chill, nothing is decided and they'll wait and see how the Dokodemo Issyo promotion goes.
The comments seem pretty positive though. http://commu.jp.playstation.com/blog/details/20140401_toro_wildarms.html
So in other words, buy the merch, I know I will
He says a lot more but my Japanese is so basic its taking me forever to translate it.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
It would seem uncharacteristic of them to hire out wouldn't it? I guess the order is a second party game that is coming out but they've been doubling down on first party studios more.
I'd like to see another. I have them all except the remake. Playing through 2 intermittently
I'd like to see another. I have them all except the remake. Playing through 2 intermittently
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
I barely played the others in the series (finished 2 but took me forever to, and barely touched 3 but that's just kind of a matter of circumstances, not because I disliked it) but the original is one of my all-time faves (hell my avatar should prove that). I'm not sure if I want a new one if it's all modernized and crappy though... -) But if done right it could be amazing.
Ditto! By the way, what is the song from on the April Fools page? Is it one of the later WA games? I didn't recognize it.
Sure, that could work. A Zelda-like, with the puzzle mechanics... or maybe something like Dragon's Dogma, or...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DIE DIE DIE