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AMD Polaris architecture to succeed Graphics Core Next
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qa_engineer
Member
as a result of a lack of competition, I buy nvidia. I really do want to buy amd, but im not given enough reason to
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
They have a chance of getting some customers if they have a Polaris card (likely the 480X) that is around the Fury performance for $299. And when I say Fury performance I mean Fury performance in DX12 or Gameworks titles. At least matching that or over as then you're dangerously close to 390X performance and you can pick one of those up used for less.
The other likely scenario is a 480 with 390X performance for $250 or less.
It depends really. There is some amount of guesswork involved, but the biggest factors are whether the chips are ready enough and the foundry/process being able to ramp up volume production. There've been generations where nVidia were first and vice versa.
It seems some people found Polaris benchmarks of AotS over at Overclock.net.
Whether they're the real deal, engineering samples or pure bogus is still the question.
Those benchmarks look promising but then again dont know if they're legit.
frontieruk
Member
I think the tweet where this came from was deleted, so I can't confirm a source, also there isn't any kind of performance counter so is kinda pointless, I assume that if they are showcasing free sync is not actually running at 144hz/fps, not that I expected it to either.
Robert Hallock said:
Text that went with the image
abracadaver
Member
Is the 480 so powerful that DOOM never drops below 144fps at 1440p?
No GPU currently available is that powerful.
I think the tweet where this came from was deleted, so I can't confirm a source, also there isn't any kind of performance counter so is kinda pointless, I assume that if they are showcasing free sync is not actually running at 144hz/fps, not that I expected it to either.
Radeon RX 480. No R9, new branding?
frontieruk
Member
It's 1080 being upscaled to 1440 according to the text that went with the image
You misread it. It's 1440p downscaled to 1080p.
Either way, that's the refresh rate of the monitor, not the frame rate of the game.
Even then, there is still no GPU that can maintain 144fps on DOOM, even at 1080p.
I hope so.
I was never a fan of the R7, R9 brandings. The X could also stand for the roman numeral. Which would make sense in a way...
R10
RazorbackDB
Member
Maybe they just haven't decided if R7 or R9 yet.
Agreed.
Edit: Confirmation of the embargo date I guess
https://www.instagram.com/p/BF7siAHi4rn/
Soren01
Member
The wait will be painful.
Adry9
Member
Maybe they just haven't decided if R7 or R9 yet.
Agreed.
Edit: Confirmation of the embargo date I guess
https://www.instagram.com/p/BF7siAHi4rn/
One month of embargo? There has to be some leaks, it's too long. Right? RIGHT?
Tacklemacain
Member
I think Polaris will be paper launched at E3 and the release or review Embargo is end of june. Maybe we will get some infos about Polaris at Computex.
RazorbackDB
Member
I'm still hoping that's for reviews only and not the product reveals.
Tacklemacain
Member
Why would they reveal Poalris after E3 and Computex?
Because it is not ready?
Tacklemacain
Member
They dont have to release it at E3 and it should be ready, because they can already show it to the press and E3 and 29th are only 2 weeks apart.
Corpsepyre
Banned
Not sure if this is the place to ask, but is there any real difference between VSR 1440p/4K and ACTUAL 1440p/4K? If you're gaming at a higher resolution than your monitor, thanks to VSR, will it be the same, visually speaking, to actual 1440p and 4K?
No, not really. Those monitors will be able to represent the actual pixels involved in those resolutions.
The reason for downsampling is because games have aliasing (of all kinds) so you render at a higher resolution and then downsampling discards extra visual information. However because it starts with more visual information it interpolates the end result to more closely match the intended visual quality.
tl;dr it will look almost the same if you stand further away. It depends on the size of the screen/pixel density too.
No. A 1080p monitor only has ~2 million pixels, so it's simply not going to be able to resolve as much detail as a 1440p or 4K monitor. What supersampling/downscaling will do, however, is give you a much cleaner image than one rendered natively at your monitor's resolution. It's effectively just really good anti-aliasing (with some benefits to things like texture clarity thrown in).
Corpsepyre
Banned
So, something similar to SSAA then?
It's not just similar, it's the same. The same as ordered grid supersampling to be more specific.
Semi companies don't work like that. If they're planning a release around July or August, the silicon and chip packaging is 100% done. Board layout and final tests should be done at this point too.
If we assume that July/August are not paper launches, then board manufacturing should be ramping up right about now.
edit: A one to two month PR/ad campaign prior to a product launch is kind of typical too.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
No idea what they will specifically cover, but we should get some information out of Computex.
http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/computex-2016-2016may19.aspx
I have a feeling that (edit)any Polaris related announcement at Computex will be a general announcement along with announcing vendor and OEM support. The June 29th embargo is probably for specific products and benchmarks.
I wouldn't be surprised if AMD decided to focus on Zen during Computex...
RazorbackDB
Member
Roy Taylor says here they will be talking about Polaris at computex. I wonder what exactly they showed at Polaris tech day that is under NDA.
https://youtu.be/ayHp9sh3v4M?t=171
https://youtu.be/ayHp9sh3v4M?t=171
Adry9
Member
I highly doubt that. AMD doing a conference about Neo/Scorpio before even MS or Sony acknowledge their existence? Nah.
No. This isn't their information to give out. They're only contractors producing a component in these consoles.
dr_rus
Member
I'm pretty sure that 29th June NDA is for Radeon 400 lineup information, including 480 and 480X details and possibly something on Polaris 11 as well. The big question is will the cards be launched on 29th or will it be just some unveiling with benchmarks and sales starting at a later date?
Adry9
Member
John
‏@jwilliamsona47
By the way folks, AMD announcements coming soon.
https://twitter.com/jwilliamsona47/status/737320223263600640
‏@jwilliamsona47
By the way folks, AMD announcements coming soon.
https://twitter.com/jwilliamsona47/status/737320223263600640
THE:MILKMAN
Member
Today or is he just referring to Computex on Wednesday?
Adry9
Member
I don't know, the point is we won't have to wait till June 29th for at least an announcement or some details.
PS: Probably referring to AMD's conference on the 1st.
My guess is they unveil the cards at Computex, with a couple of carefully chosen benchmarks, and then launch from about 30th June onwards (there are likely four desktop cards plus a number of laptop parts, so I would expect a staggered launch). They may want to launch the first cards on on the 30th to squeeze it into Q2 of their financial year, which would explain an embargo on previews/reviews until the 29th.
10 AM Taipei time, 14 hours to go still.
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=AMD+Polaris+Update&iso=20160601T10&p1=241
Bluforce
Member
Thank you.
Where can I watch this afterwards?