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AMD R9 390X and R9 380X 20nm Pirate Islands Info Leaked (9x faster than GDDR5)
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Dictator93
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How sure are you that Pirate Islands' secret sauce is really that good or is actually being used in the cards? I don't doubt that it's beneficial but judging by the quality of most tech rumours, I'm not going to put a lot of faith in any rumour. Especially from wffctech.
The problem with this Maxwell launch is not that NVIDIA cards push out better FPS (that's normal) but rather they're actually better in literally every single way while being a relatively small die. If the 960 is released soon enough with a good enough price point, AMD's entire R9 range is deep sixed. The last time this ever happened was with AMD's HD5000 series and NVIDIA salvaged it with their reputation of having better drivers and the GTX460 - AMD lacks any form of serious brand loyalty or ecosystem that NVIDIA may have.
I really hope that AMD will stop their focus on double precision processing. They need to follow nVidia and create hips that are fully gaming-oriented, which will reduce perf/watt and reduce transistor count.
Most likely yes, and would give big boost to APU processing.
Most likely yes, and would give big boost to APU processing.
1970 Chevelle SS
Neo Member
What a great time to be a PC gamer. Was really close to getting a 970 but not anymore. I'll wait it out a little more.
The GM204 is a great compute chip on top of being superb in games.
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/190463-nvidia-maxwell-gtx-980-and-gtx-970-review/3
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8526/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-review/20
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
People taking wffctech seriously? Lol.
It's also weird to compare Maxwell with AMDs current cards, AMD hasn't released a new architecture in over two and a half years. I certainly hope Maxwell blows it out of the water, same node or otherwise.
It's also weird to compare Maxwell with AMDs current cards, AMD hasn't released a new architecture in over two and a half years. I certainly hope Maxwell blows it out of the water, same node or otherwise.
Stacked memory is coming in early 2015, there is nothing fake in that. Plus they are lining to the presentation slides, so existence of this article [and thread] is justified.
dr_rus
Member
Nvidia has said that they'll use stacked RAM / HBM on their GPUs a couple of years ago - starting with Volta. Which means that it's been more than two years since they've started working on this too and it's very unlikely that AMD will have a big lead here. I expect them to launch Pascal on 16nm in about a year or a year and a half.
So, Q1 2016? Slow down there.
SocksForWoks
Banned
These will go nicely with my AMD build @_@
I'm not on my computer anymore but I don't recall any mention of AMD gpus in the presentation.
It seems like wccft is trying to connect two dots on their own. They keep saying "allegedly" but both of the articles sourced don't mention HBM (albeit with Google translate)
Again, I did read it very quickly so I might have missed something.
dr_rus
Member
Yes. Anyone expecting AMD to launch it sooner than end of 2015 / start of 2016 is in for a dissapointment.
So does Tonga vs Tahiti. That was achieved through improved compression allowing greater usage of available bandwidth. Just look at the pixel fill numbers, they have scaled with bandwidth for a long time but with Tonga and Maxwell that totally changed.
Perhaps not now but in the future, especially if you're playing at 1440p/4K.
CyberPunked
Member
The Nvidia only effects make a 970 way worth it over a AMD card.
We are only talking about GPU Physx which require CUDA. Other tech in the game (tessellation, HBAO+, Hairworks) will work on AMD hardware.
lightchris
Member
Not nearly in such a significant manner though.
More bandwidth will mainly improve certain GPGPU applications. Or maybe they could reduce cache sizes/complexity and with the gained space put more compute units on it instead. But I don't see how it could be a real game changer.
+ less power consumption. It's expected that vidyacards with HBM will need 50-80 watts less.
CyberPunked
Member
Not necessarily. The fur in Witcher 3,could run on AMD cards, but it is up to Nvidia to allow them too.
oh my god....
I seriously do not want to buy an intel CPU.
AMD pls
that article ist from mai 2012.
Dragon1893
Member
This is great news, now show me prices.
The Janitor
Member
The biggest advantage Nvidia has imo is the AA techniques, DSR and NVinspector. I don't see the point in having a high-end GPU if you can't get decent image quality.
Unless AMD comes up with better AA solutions, I'm gonna stick with Nvidia.
And you shouldn't. This site is a bunch of fakers. No matter how many times you try to tell people they always link to this site. How many reputable sites are reporting on this without linking back to WCCFTech? How many times does this article use "allegedly?"
I can't count how many times these guys were "first to report leaks."
Canis lupus
Member
When has wccftech ever been right about "leaks" in the past??
They always create clickbait articles like this with numbers out of their ass.
They always create clickbait articles like this with numbers out of their ass.
I don't see any good in not allowing them to run on AMD cards. At least the "low" preset could like in COD Ghosts.
Brofist
Member
Why would you be, you bought what's easily the best buy in GPUs ATM.
KungFucius
King Snowflake
It's not nVidia or AMD that are delivering it, it's their memory partners. both nVidia and AMD are now just design companies, they don't make shit. The only plus to this is that they can point the finger elsewhere when some tech slips.
Title should probably mention that its using HBM cause it didnt make too much sense otherwise.
Its JEDEC. It looks like the standard is being developed by AMD and Hynix so yeah. Its worth noting that AMD, the company prior to the merger is largely responsible for the creation of the GDDR standard, so this isnt really shocking. Well other than the fact that this new standard isnt "GDDR6".
Its JEDEC. It looks like the standard is being developed by AMD and Hynix so yeah. Its worth noting that AMD, the company prior to the merger is largely responsible for the creation of the GDDR standard, so this isnt really shocking. Well other than the fact that this new standard isnt "GDDR6".
AMD has always had a hand in memory standards, as recently as GDDR5.
Mantle is pretty great. Wish more games would support it.
1GB for first generation cards, so when this comes out will it be split memory pools with 1GB of stacked ram and then 3GB or so of GDDR5? Will this act like a massive edram equivalent?
Wonder how it will be driven by devs. I assume for compatibility reasons the AMD drivers will have to manage the memory itself so it is transparent to devs.
Wonder how it will be driven by devs. I assume for compatibility reasons the AMD drivers will have to manage the memory itself so it is transparent to devs.
I'm now thinking the same.
Why? They are already the market leader. As a PC gamer interested in tech and decent pricing, it would be better if AMD trumped Nvidia again for a change.
Business
Member
I'm exactly in the same situation with the same card. I hope the new cards will at least knock down the price of the old flagship ones decently.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
This isn't a rumor from a reputable site. Even if it was, you're never going to be satisfied if you keep holding off for 4+ month periods because of the rumblings of a new card that may or may not be awesome. Upgrade when you need to, because the next big thing is always just around the corner. If you end up with a sub-optimal upgrade because it turns out that you would have got better value if you'd waited longer, then just shrug your shoulders and hope for better luck next time. Nobody is prescient and the only time it's really recommended to wait is when we know that a new card is very close.
alexandros
Banned
As always, right?
Right! Lots of cool new tech on the horizon, everybody loves new toys.
If this is true, it's fantastic news.
With AMD set to have PC GPUs with HBM in 2015, well before Nvidia's Pascal in 2016, one would think AMD's semi-custom group should definitely be able to design APU solutions using HBM for their customers: Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony for the next round of consoles in the later part of this decade.
Right?
With AMD set to have PC GPUs with HBM in 2015, well before Nvidia's Pascal in 2016, one would think AMD's semi-custom group should definitely be able to design APU solutions using HBM for their customers: Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony for the next round of consoles in the later part of this decade.
Right?
KillaKalz347
Banned
AMD will be first to market with HBM for a while, and I doubt Pascal will launch next year either. They'll just release big maxwell to compete with the 390X.
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