But that is with absolutely no voltage tweaks whatsoever. Unless the 980 Ti 'aggressively' overclocks at stock voltage?
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AMD Radeon Fury X Series | HBM, Small Form Factor And Water Cooling | June 16th
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But that is with absolutely no voltage tweaks whatsoever. Unless the 980 Ti 'aggressively' overclocks at stock voltage?
It sure does, I can hit around 1400 MHz boost (sustained) on stock volts with my 980 Ti. That's a 30% increase over stock.
Many of the non-ref 980 Tis will boost to like 1300 MHz out of the box even
Come on man, it's someone just playing around with the card. Don't draw conclusions from one line and some pictures
Sir Abacus
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Because it's not just temperature. It's calculus involving frequency, voltage and heat. More voltage, higher frequency. Higher frequency, more heat.
You can't just keep overvolting and cooling it forever though. Overvolting causes electromigration to accelerate and reduces the service life of the part. See Sudden Northwood Death Syndrome.
Irobot82
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What's the temp on that 980ti 1400Mhz @ 4k Ultra on Mordrr? Looking at that very mild OC on AMD it's at 49C. Quit being silly.
Maxwell based cards tend to have great OC headroom but with a corresponding increase in the amount of heat they put out (and fan noise, to a smaller degree). If the Fury X can be close in terms of raw speed while being much cooler and quieter (and smaller!) then that is still fairly impressive for the price that they are asking.
Coulomb_Barrier
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The Titan X and 980 Ti are big, hot and noisey cards compared to the Fury X from the info we know. Aesthetically the Fury X looks nicer too. If it does 'only' match both in performance, AMD's card has a lot going for it.
AMD are also in the noteworthy position of having a flagship product that makes Nvidias equivalents appear slightly technologically backwards. They haven't been in this position for a long while.
AMD are also in the noteworthy position of having a flagship product that makes Nvidias equivalents appear slightly technologically backwards. They haven't been in this position for a long while.
xXxDieselxXx
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This is how I imagine myself tomorrow after clicking the "Buy/Confirm Order" button
"Best F!cking Card I ever Had..."
"Best F!cking Card I ever Had..."
jfoul
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This is how I imagine myself tomorrow after clicking the "Buy/Confirm Order" button
"Best F!cking Card I ever Had..."
I'm probably going to wait until the AIB Fury releases to make my decision. Batman AK releasing as a giant turd makes the wait a little more bearable.
i'm a bit rusty, but if i recall correctly, the 970's can reach just below 1500 MHz on the core, if thats what we're talking about, whilst 290Xs usually dont go above 1200 MHz.
What that translates into for game performance is another question though.
But i'd wager that the 290X and therefore 390X is going to be the thirstier card.
Seriously? In no way did he even say he was pushing the card. In fact he said "slight OC." Don't draw conclusions from nothing.
Not just that, it requires more power. They release this card with the expectation of peaking at 275Ws. Increasing frequency further will limit their range of customers more because you now have to buy a more powerful PSU.
Sir Abacus
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If you're buying a $649 card you probably have the money for a decent PSU. My G1 came with dual 8 pins which is 375W peak draw.
As others have mentioned, there are a bunch of trade offs when it comes to dual GPU. One thing I will say is get used to waiting a week after release day for a crossfire/SLI profile. It's just not a priority for the company making the game or for AMD/Nvidia. If you're like me though and you have such a crazy backlog you don't really care about playing games day 1, that's probably a non-factor. Plus, you can always just run without a specific profile. It'll be better than one card but not as efficient as a custom profile for the game.
One positive thing is that, by and large, if a game isn't big enough to have multi-GPU support, you probably don't need it anyways. There have been very few situations where I've wanted multi-GPU support and not had it. They still exist though, and that can be frustrating. Planetside 2, for instance, has very poor multi-GPU support.
Another drawback is that Mantle games frequently don't support Crossfire + Mantle. Battlefield 4 is much smoother on the CPU (avoiding those 33+ ms frame times) side with Mantle, but then you lose out on the extra graphical power. Finally, there is some delay associated with multi-GPU rendering which can be disadvantageous in twitch shooters or competitive gaming in general.
Frame time variance used to be a much bigger deal but seems to be better controlled now.
Lovely Salsa
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Will fury x be able to enable gameworks on batman and witcher 3?
Who's in the market for a high end video card without a poweful PSU already or planning to have one anyway?
Not the nVidia only stuff.
Lovely Salsa
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the hell? Whats the point in buying this card then? Unless it performs much better than 980 ti
Lovely Salsa
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It looks like hairworks works on amd cards, what about in batman?
Coulomb_Barrier
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Not just on the red team but on their older cards as well. See Witcher 3 and Kepler.
Groovy. I won't waste my time staying up tonight on the remote chance someone sells it early.
Lovely Salsa
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1 hour and 40 min to go for the first review
watch sweclockers
watch sweclockers
Where'd you hear this? I thought the consensus was no reviews until 12 UTC.
Lovely Salsa
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they usually put up their reviews 00.01 on the embargo day
Temps are not the sole limiting factor. Not all the chips are equally competent so for yield the clocks must be optimised. Then the architecture of the GPU effects the maximum clock speeds too along with multiple other factors such as transistor design, component layout, VRMs, power etc.
Just because it runs cool does not mean massive OC headroom.
Unknown Soldier
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I thought reviews were supposed to be today
Lovely Salsa
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I thought reviews were supposed to be today
check sweclockers. They should have it up in 55 min, if they don't, yeah no reviews today
Coulomb_Barrier
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I thought reviews were supposed to be today
You're getting nervous aren't you.
RenegadeXV8
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I thought reviews were supposed to be today
NDA lifts tomorrow 8AM EST. An AMD rep confirmed that again today.
I doubt sweclockers has a first review exclusive. I do expect a site to "accidentally" put the review up a few hours before, though.
Unknown Soldier
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About what? I was playing Batman: Arkham Knight in 4K with all settings maxed and all Gameworks On with my Sony 65" 4K TV over the HDMI 2.0 connector on my 980 Ti. AMD cards don't even get 2 of the 4 Gameworks settings enabled in that game.
Furthermore AMD didn't even offer me the option of buying their card anyways because they refused to support HDMI 2.0. It doesn't matter what the reviews say, I am locked out of Fury X ownership because of this decision.
The reality is I just like reading videocard reviews and that's entirely separate from any purchasing decisions I would make. Which in this case isn't even a decision, because I game on a 4K TV which only has HDMI connectors it was Nvidia or nothing for me.
How did you get it to run smoothly at 4k resolution on a 980ti I thought everyone was having issues with this game right now even on 980s
Tallshortman
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Supposedly embargo for some sites may lift sometime tonight, or so goes the rumor.
hardwarezone already posted some legit looking benches and info
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/h...iew]-sapphire-amd-r9-fury-x-rise-5087633.html
Apparently voltage controls are locked until tomorrow(?) or embargo so going to have to wait a few hours after embargo to see what the true OC headroom is.
hardwarezone already posted some legit looking benches and info
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/h...iew]-sapphire-amd-r9-fury-x-rise-5087633.html
Apparently voltage controls are locked until tomorrow(?) or embargo so going to have to wait a few hours after embargo to see what the true OC headroom is.
Noon UTC, which is 8AM eastern
Coulomb_Barrier
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Lol I'm joking. Good for you. I personally hope the Fury X is an overclocking beast so it blows some fire under Nvidia's arse and keeps the GPU market competitive.
I already know it offers very similar performance to the Ti/Titan X, now the important thing is the OC potential.
RenegadeXV8
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I read somewhere, completely forgot where, but it made some sense out of the overclocking situation. Apparently AMD set the voltage of the Fury X to the absolute lowest stable (in order to reduce power draw), which is why it doesn't overclock so well at stock voltage. A slight voltage bump should do wonders for overclocking if that is indeed the case.
They got graphs for most of the interesting data, ( fps, frametime, temps, power usage )
So you should be able to get the gist of it.
jfoul
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Lol, great picture.