Retromelon
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So do we have any idea how much these displayport to hdmi 2.0 60 hz donglies will cost?
Its going to be over 100 dollars isnt it
Its going to be over 100 dollars isnt it
Buy the card, and sell it when you want to upgrade.So tempted by the Fury card...
Must.wait.16nm.
I wonder if we will ever get a big 20nm chip, let alone 16nmMust.wait.16nm.
Sweclockers editor said:Inget av de två! Mer exakt än så kan jag inte vara, men skulle gå och lägga mig ikväll utan att tänka två gånger på saken.Sweclockers forumposter said:Släpps tester på korten 00:00 svensk tid hos er eller 09:00 svensk tid imorgon?
Neither! I can't be more precice than that, but I'm going to bed without thinking about it.Do you release the review 00:00 Swedish time [on your site] or 09:00 Swedish time tomorrow?
Buy the card, and sell it when you want to upgrade.
I would but I'm not in from the USA, buying is 50% more expensive and selling such a card is 200% harder
How did you get it to run smoothly at 4k resolution on a 980ti I thought everyone was having issues with this game right now even on 980s
One word of warning should you buy a Fiji and molest it in various ways that overclockers and enthusiasts normally do, be careful. If you look at the above picture you can see the pretty patterns on the interposer, they look good but don’t taste good. If you want to clean off the thermal paste and replace it with your own cooling solution, be really careful of these areas. Why? Because the interposer, basically a chip, is mounted face up, it is not a traditional flip chip part with the transistors and metal layers protected by the wafer, they fragile bits are on top this time.
How fragile? Don’t touch them, don’t wipe them off, and otherwise don’t do anything that could break a far sub-micron metal trace. It is really fragile and you will destroy your very expensive GPU if you do this, don’t say we didn’t warn you. This is a tech transition that hasn’t been seen since the days when flip chips replaced wire bonding so think back to the bad old days before you mod. Really, be careful or you will end up with an expensive 4GB, water-cooled doorstop.
It's still a card-seller though.Gameworks is a disaster in my opinion. Kills performance in AMD cards mostly because it's NVIDIA's proprietary code.
Not to mention shady tactics by the green team to bring down performance on the red team...
How did you get it to run smoothly at 4k resolution on a 980ti I thought everyone was having issues with this game right now even on 980s
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1069190 <-- it's officially borked lol I blame ThanosMany people actually don't have issues, there are lots of people posting in that B:AK PC performance thread saying they don't have issues.
I don't know what to think really, those numbers are all over the place. Seems it does better at 1080p than 4K versus 980 Ti which doesn't make much sense given AMD's usual advantage at higher resolutions.
Would it be possible to build a PC with a Fury X in an EVGA Hadron case, or something similarly small?
I'm building a PC in a couple months and was pretty set on a 980 Ti but if a Fury X would let me get a smaller case and run quieter that'd definitely be worth considering.
The Crysis 3 chart was a strange bummer, maybe the game carefully sips bandwidth.I don't know what to think really, those numbers are all over the place. Seems it does better at 1080p than 4K versus 980 Ti which doesn't make much sense given AMD's usual advantage at higher resolutions.
No surprise, especially 980Ti G1 destroys every single-GPU including Titan X and voltage-locked Fury X. Your 980G1 is a beast in its power segment though, no regrets.In every one of those charts an overclocked 980ti is a beast.
My poor 980 G1 weeps.
At a glance, there is hope. The Hadron can fit cards up to 267mm (the Fury X is 195mm+ some more to gracefully clear the closed loop cooler) and it should have the twin 8 pin plugs considering it was built to hold even a GTX 980.
The real question would be where to place the Radiator. The left side of the Hadron is a glass panel, the right side has ventilation but that's where the MB goes, and the top houses twin 120mm fans.If you look at Hadron builds I'm not sure where you could fit the radiator except by removing one of the top fans, but even that could be a bit difficult because the drive cage is not removable. (It still might be possible, but you'd have to tape out exactly how far the 400mm cable would reach)
Beyond that, as much as I like that case, there's no integrated dust mesh (no dust protection at all, really) and the best option to make room would be to do a full case disassemble and try to remove the drive cage (I've seen it accomplished on youtube though I can't speak to how difficult it would be) That's really the ideal spot.
Mini ITX cases of that size have a variety of quirks and I highly recommend watching youtube videos on them to see if they are ones you can live with. If you can accept a somewhat bigger mITX case, there are vastly more flexible ones, like the Corsair 250D.
Holy hell
Fury X doesnt stand a chance against a 980 ti
FLAguy954 said:I'm waiting for more review because I won't accept that is loses to a vanilla 980 in ANY circumstance.
Hell, even the power-hungry 390X gives the 980 a run for its money so the Fury X should be blowing it away imo.
Is that all the water from the Fury X cooler leaking?Are we getting that early review?
Something very interesting was brought up in this article by Semi-Accurate in regard to HBM and custom overclocking. This is seriously going to put a hamper on how people handle HBM equipped cards with the intent of replacing thermal paste or modifying a cooler (like adding liquid cooling for instance). Most likely that Nvidia will have to use an interposer as well so I'm expecting a lot of modders to be pissed with HBM at first:
They probably scored one off a nearby friendly retailer.Anyone heard of vmodtech? I haven't seen anything from these guys before, with AMD limiting review samples I'd be surprised such a small site even got one unless a vendor broke street date.
a) Serious modders have been delidding CPUs and GPUs for as long as CPU and GPU makers have been using an IHS.
b) The top layer of substrate isn't going to have micron sized traces on it. That would be fucking retarded. Especially when OEMs are going to do a job like this with the paste:
Charlie Demerjian is a muckracking twit who exists only to spew his own brand of bullshit to appear to be a half competent analyst. This is a man who got fired from The Inquirer for being too full of shit. That should tell you how far up his own asshole he is.
Is that all the water from the Fury X cooler leaking?
Damn AMD can't catch a break.
Thanks for the response!
I didn't really realize how huge most cases are, even "mid" cases seem huge to me, and most have stuff like space for a ton of hard drives that I don't need. Right now I like the Fractal R5 a lot but I'd love to get something smaller, and like I said I was hoping since the Fury X seems tiny it would open opportunities for really small but really powerful builds.
Well damn, you learn something new everyday.
So does that mean all we need to do is use non-conductive thermal pastes and pastes that don't have diamonds (Arctic MX4 ftw) in it and it'll be fine?
Shipping units wouldn't have exposed traces. They might have left them up on mockups for oooh shiny effect because etched silicon is ridiculously pretty but nobody would leave critical traces on an interposer exposed to the environment like that. Just like you don't have critical sub micron traces on the surface of your CPU. That's an interposer for instance.
Really surprised at how the 980 TI is doing in these supposed benches.
There's definitely an issue with these benchmarks. Here's TechPowerUp's review of the 980Ti with Crysis 3.
26.6FPS vs. 58FPS in these suspect benchmarks. That might be a little strange.
Haha, I really love this leaked benchmark:
http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/2498042/
The 980 Ti is 37.5% or 50% more than the 980 in all metrics. Shaders, TMUs (37.5%), Memory Bandwidth, Memory Capacity (50%). Yet a 980 overclocked to 38.6% faster Shaders and 36.5% faster Memory Bandwidth beats a stock 980 Ti. What a story Mark.
And look at the difference between the 980 at 1127 vs 1241. 40% faster for a 10% faster overclock. Riiiight. I'm sure this was the average of multiple passes, and not just one...
Well from those benchmarks, it's not that bad. But thenh there's this:
Something isn't right.
Do we know the difference between the Fury and Fury X - is it just the cooler, air vs water?
For those with tiny miniITX cases may have difficulty with the Fury X and instead opt for the regular Fury - I'm thinking of the Node 304 as an example.