GwyndolinCinder
Member
Only seen a few, Nintendo need to ship more stock for these kids ):
The school trip kids are always really friendly and say hello and nice to meet you in English, but as soon as they saw the switch they just went nuts for it.
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The school trip kids are always really friendly and say hello and nice to meet you in English, but as soon as they saw the switch they just went nuts for it.
I think you misspelled frustration?
Nah party rooms are fun.
Get in close and play chicken with them. They have to guess when you're going to attempt a throw. If they guess wrong I get a charged stun into grab. Once I score a knockdown it's all about maintaining that pressure and staying on top of them.
Try not to attack first though. You want to bait them into attacking. It's near impossible to dodge a throw at point blank range, so they have to guess when you're going to do it.
Guardian doesn't have a weight class, so I'm not sure why it's listed as light. If it had to be listed as something it should be heavy. It basically blocks everything in shield form and trades with everything when you push it forward after the shield.
I don't think my Helix is a good one yet, I haven't touched ranked mode as I am still in preparation of my own personal training with him
Chilla doesn't give you guaranteed followup. Sparky means I get a free throw for at least 150 more damage.
I'm here, but it's Monday. I have work to do.
I also don't really have a desire to play the game. I got to rank 10 this morning, but there's no leaderboard and it seems ranked stops at 15 so there's no real point in playing ranked. Party Match is terrible for a competitive player since it's designed to be as casual friendly as possible. In addition, 90% of the matches in ranked are turtle fests that end in a time out. Just boring to play overall. Doesn't help that there isn't a good training mode, so it's difficult to lab anything.
I think I'm too competitive for this game to be fun at this point. Maybe if Nintendo offered better netcode, adjusted the fundamentals of the game (not happening), added a leaderboard and maybe casual 1v1 with a FT3 round setup it would offer more enjoyment for me. As it stands it's just boring to play now. I might hop into the GAF room later tonight, but after that I may call it on Arms.
Ten characters, three default Arms per chacter- 30 arms so far.
I've organized them here, grouped by the "throw type" or "class" (not sure if these are official terms, so these labels may be different elsewhere).
If you want to look something up but can't quite remember it by name, here they all are in alphabetical order, for CTRL + F purposes:
| Blorb | Boomerang | Buff | Bubb | Chakram | Chilla | Coolerang | Cracker | Dragon | Guardian | Homie | Hydra | Ice Dragon | Megaton | Megawatt | Parasol | Phoenix | Popper | Ramram | Retorcher | Revolver | Seekie | Slamamander | Slapamander | Sparky | Thunderbird | Toaster | Triblast | Tribolt | Whammer |
First, some general notes that apply to all ARMS and the interplay between them.
Weight
Arms have either a Light, Medium, or Heavy weight, with a simple "greater-than" dynamic (not rock-paper-scissors as sometimes misnamed).
Punching at one another:
When Arms match weights, they will both fall to the ground, and then recover to both players.
When a heavier arm hits a lighter arm, the heavier weight beats the lighter.
So,
Light matches Light and beats nothing.
Medium beats Light, matches Medium and is beaten by Heavy.
Heavy mathches Heavy, and beats everything else.
During rush, all Arms gain +1 weight. A Heavy can beat anything except another Rush Heavy, a Rush Medium matches a regular heavy and beats a regular medium, and so on.
One unique note on priority in addition to the weight classes: The rapid-fire Multi-Shot arms, Revolver and Retorcher, can but thought of as firing three lights in a row. against a single Light Arm attack two of the three shots will still penetrate, fired through two Light Arms, a single shot may still penetrate. Mediums and Heavys simply absord all three shots.
Plus Arms
When you unlocked a duplicate of an Arm you already own for a character, it gets a one-time upgrade to a plus version, with 10 higher base damage. Some also give slightly higher recovery speed, and Megaton, Megawatt, Whammer and Guardian give +5 to throw damage. and
Distance
All Arms in ARMS have an identical maximum range; the range they extend to if you whiff. You may have encountered the situation where you and your target are seemingly just inches outside of one another's effective range, with arms stopping in front of your face. This maximum distance also represents the maximum amount of rush meter you can gain with a single punch, because meter is gained gradually while a punch is traveling.
A Note on Speed
Calculating the effective speed of Arms is more difficult than expected.
Different classes of Arms have wildly different times-to-reach-max-range, a metric that is confounded ever further by Arms hitbox size per character,
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Gloves
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Gloves can be thought of as the most basic type, sure. But they are also some of the most versatile and potent in the game. In many basic situations, a glove type Arm is basically your safest bet across the board, and
Toaster
Sparky
Buff
Chilla
Bubb
Phoenix
Thunderbird
Boomerang
Coolerang
Chakram
Ramram
Dragon
Ice Dragon
Megaton
Megawatt
Homie
Seekie
Tribolt
Triblast
Retorcher
Revolver
Hydra
Popper
Cracker
Parasol
Guardian
Whammer
Blorb
Slapamander
Slamamander
I've organized them here, grouped by the "throw type" or "class" (not sure if these are official terms, so these labels may be different elsewhere).
If you want to look something up but can't quite remember it by name, here they all are in alphabetical order, for CTRL + F purposes:
| Blorb | Boomerang | Buff | Bubb | Chakram | Chilla | Coolerang | Cracker | Dragon | Guardian | Homie | Hydra | Ice Dragon | Megaton | Megawatt | Parasol | Phoenix | Popper | Ramram | Retorcher | Revolver | Seekie | Slamamander | Slapamander | Sparky | Thunderbird | Toaster | Triblast | Tribolt | Whammer |
First, some general notes that apply to all ARMS and the interplay between them.
Weight
Arms have either a Light, Medium, or Heavy weight, with a simple "greater-than" dynamic (not rock-paper-scissors as sometimes misnamed).
Punching at one another:
When Arms match weights, they will both fall to the ground, and then recover to both players.
When a heavier arm hits a lighter arm, the heavier weight beats the lighter.
So,
Light matches Light and beats nothing.
Medium beats Light, matches Medium and is beaten by Heavy.
Heavy mathches Heavy, and beats everything else.
During rush, all Arms gain +1 weight. A Heavy can beat anything except another Rush Heavy, a Rush Medium matches a regular heavy and beats a regular medium, and so on.
One unique note on priority in addition to the weight classes: The rapid-fire Multi-Shot arms, Revolver and Retorcher, can but thought of as firing three lights in a row. against a single Light Arm attack two of the three shots will still penetrate, fired through two Light Arms, a single shot may still penetrate. Mediums and Heavys simply absord all three shots.
Plus Arms
When you unlocked a duplicate of an Arm you already own for a character, it gets a one-time upgrade to a plus version, with 10 higher base damage. Some also give slightly higher recovery speed, and Megaton, Megawatt, Whammer and Guardian give +5 to throw damage. and
Distance
All Arms in ARMS have an identical maximum range; the range they extend to if you whiff. You may have encountered the situation where you and your target are seemingly just inches outside of one another's effective range, with arms stopping in front of your face. This maximum distance also represents the maximum amount of rush meter you can gain with a single punch, because meter is gained gradually while a punch is traveling.
A Note on Speed
Calculating the effective speed of Arms is more difficult than expected.
Different classes of Arms have wildly different times-to-reach-max-range, a metric that is confounded ever further by Arms hitbox size per character,
Gloves can be thought of as the most basic type, sure. But they are also some of the most versatile and potent in the game. In many basic situations, a glove type Arm is basically your safest bet across the board, and
Toaster
Sparky
Buff
Chilla
Bubb
Phoenix
Thunderbird
Boomerang
Coolerang
Chakram
Ramram
Dragon
Ice Dragon
Megaton
Megawatt
Homie
Seekie
Tribolt
Triblast
Retorcher
Revolver
Hydra
Popper
Cracker
Parasol
Guardian
Whammer
Blorb
Slapamander
Slamamander
Thanks! Moondrop hit me with that one so I added it in.
I wonder if there's a good place to mention that Guard cancel technique...
I can't believe how much improvement I've experienced since Saturday night. I can pretty much completely body Max Brass and Hedlok on 4 with my preferred Arms now whereas the first time it was pure struggle moment to moment
AquaWateria
Member
Spectator mode is gonna be cool when it finally comes out.
Incitemaybe
Member
Fun party room with gaf gg
Actually felt like I learned a bit
Actually felt like I learned a bit
Right? Played in tabletop mode vs my roomie, and it was the hottest my Switch has ever gotten. Game is a beast.
Oh, hey, Biske. I'm in your room.
Awwwwwwww yeah! Awesome. I really love the change of pace that party rooms throw into the mix. There is still the tough competition, but then there is some fun madness that breaks it up.
Yep, but after you throw that resets the flow of the fight, where as with the Chilla it stacks the freeze time on the enemy the more you hit them with charged Chillas, putting more pressure and keeps the flow in your favor. 150 (+100 from the initial punch) guaranteed damage sounds good, but consider this: You land the Freeze effect, and instead of grabbing you throw your Megaton. This does 110 damage, and the opponent is still frozen; so you throw your chilla again, re freezing them, dealing another 90 damage, and setting them up for a second Megaton. You have done 310 damage so far after landing your initial freeze, AND you still have momentum in your favor since the opponent is still locked down from Chilla.
Sure you have to work a bit more to land those extra hits on a stationary target, but the pay off is better IMO.
Are you using a LAN adapter?
Get a LAN adapter, makes a world of difference. The Switch wifi is pure garbage. On my wifi I can't go 30 seconds without a disconnect, but LAN adapter is rock solid
I actually bought a new router for ARMS lol. My old one was literally not able to handle the internet I pay for. Night and day. Do you have bad service or just a bad router?
Yea I might pick one up this weekend.
No bad router.yea this needs to be switched since I will be play splatoon as well, my PS4 is fine tho
tali'zorah84
Member
Found a pretty reliable way to grind coins for the Arm Getter (on the ARMS subreddit)
- Enter 1P Versus and set up a game of V-Ball. Set the CPU to 6 or 7 (gives 3 coins per win).
- Set your player to Ribbon Girl with double Poppers/Crackers and your opponent to Helix (change his arms to Guardians in all 3 slots).
- Once the match starts, begin a double jump when you hear the tone before the ball drops in. Do a grab, and then immediately slam it into the other side of the court. The Poppers are so fast you can do it all before Helix has a chance to react.
- If Helix does get the ball, he'll kinda fumble around with it because of the shield arms.
- Enter 1P Versus and set up a game of V-Ball. Set the CPU to 6 or 7 (gives 3 coins per win).
- Set your player to Ribbon Girl with double Poppers/Crackers and your opponent to Helix (change his arms to Guardians in all 3 slots).
- Once the match starts, begin a double jump when you hear the tone before the ball drops in. Do a grab, and then immediately slam it into the other side of the court. The Poppers are so fast you can do it all before Helix has a chance to react.
- If Helix does get the ball, he'll kinda fumble around with it because of the shield arms.
i think i love you
There are times when it would split and hit each person on the team, its just ridiculous. If you are against a person who has double seekie... gooood luck.
Same. Skillshot post-level 4 is frustrating as hell for me.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
Gg twinnie whoever you are on here ^^
molnizzle
Member
Is this faster than the training mode grind? That one was 2 coins every 20 seconds or so.
Jaded Alyx
Member
I have a very important question.
Which is the better version of the ARMS main theme?
Regular or Ribbon Girl variation?
Which is the better version of the ARMS main theme?
Regular or Ribbon Girl variation?
refer to question #13 lol
Ribbon Girl variation. The main theme however is still the theme they should play for ads and what not though.
tali'zorah84
Member
I'm not too sure, it seems to be a bit faster to me.
TheGoreMagala
Member
You could just use a helix with poppers and use tower mode so the ball is literally in your face when it appears
This one seems to be a best seller
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MYT481C/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I tried to searched for the one I use but apparently decade old Wii LAN adapters are hard to find.
There's an unexplained combo system in skillshot. Every consecutive hit with a single punch is +10 more (including tagging your opponent). So if you hit 3 targets with one punch, that's 10+20+30=60. Therefore you often need to have the right angle, or wait for the angles to develop.
that just makes it suck in a more algorithmic way
There isn't anything concrete. I'm not great at anti-ninjara yet since I've done the most GPs with him and didn't usually have to fight him
edit: ...that said immediatly after posting this I got him in GP4 with Kid Cobra and completely clocked him just playing keepaway with slamamanders.
Or just use double seekie. Aim for targets, it goes, then hits the opponent and you watch your self win.
Jaded Alyx
Member
Actually it adds layers of strategy- you have to juggle picking the right combo with keeping one eye on your opponent. Skillshot, volleyball, and basketball all have mindgame potential.
People should still know the combo system if they want to beat human opponents. Though I think seekie/homie might be the best heavy arms in the game. They ruin the AI. Really want to test on Min Min.
TheGoreMagala
Member
Aren't they medium?