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Arstechnica hands-on Vive VR [3D controllers standard, no market fragmentation]
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If you recall, their original plan included controller positional tracking using Kinect (the controller has an ir led in it). Maybe Oculus is going to support that?
The LEDs are pretty basic in the XB1 controller though. They're enough for kinect to differentiate controller 1 from controller 2 and approximate position. The main use case presented was to know who is holding each controller, so it would be used in conjunction with kinect skeletal tracking.
I doubt they'd be able to do anything like proper positional tracking, and they don't have gyros for motion tracking. It is a shame - that would have been a great update. I think DS4 on PS4 could do some nice things in VR as a default controller using gyros/positional tracking.
It doesn't have gyros and accelerometers included, no sensor fusion. How it is now is not sufficient for precise 6dof 3D-tracking.
The leds are only assisting the Kinect in seeing where in the point cloud data the controller is located (which also assist the Kinect in separating the players, pointing out appendixes/arms).
Ah yeah. Regardless, the xb1 controller would still have been less than ideal, proper positional tracking or not.
It would have been a Great start! It enables heaps of features by itself like getting the controller into the VR environment which is significant: https://youtu.be/Z2cj4MsbLgo?list=FL2WnikWeO4FoZ6ne3zI8kOg&t=270
Sony were very forward thinking with the DualShock 4.
All VR headsets will have a cable for the foreseeable future.
As for the controllers, the prototypes were wired, but the final ones will be wireless.
Cool, thanks.
Do you guys think Vive will have a lot of non-game stuff? My wife really wants to use VR to like, lay down on the couch and just chill on a beach. Or like that aurora borealis demo. She loves gaming, and will use it for that. But she also wants to use it for non-game stuff.
So far I've only heard of Oculus having those things (although I'll admit, I've kept my head in the sand with regards to news on VR, because I couldn't take the wait for it, as I want it so badly). But I assume since they are both PC platforms, a lot of the stuff that came out on early Oculus, will also be on Vive? Sorry if that was a dumb question. My main priority is gaming. So I'm getting Vive now. And I guess since Oculus is being backed by Facebook, maybe it will be more likely in the future, it will have more non-gaming stuff?
But I was just curious, as my wife was asking me, and I don't know. Then again, maybe it's too early to even be asking this question. *slaps head*
So far I've only heard of Oculus having those things (although I'll admit, I've kept my head in the sand with regards to news on VR, because I couldn't take the wait for it, as I want it so badly). But I assume since they are both PC platforms, a lot of the stuff that came out on early Oculus, will also be on Vive? Sorry if that was a dumb question. My main priority is gaming. So I'm getting Vive now. And I guess since Oculus is being backed by Facebook, maybe it will be more likely in the future, it will have more non-gaming stuff?
But I was just curious, as my wife was asking me, and I don't know. Then again, maybe it's too early to even be asking this question. *slaps head*
At this stage it certainly seems the way you say it. It is also very early and video content and the like seem like they would be the kind of media that would be fairly device agnostic so I wouldn't rule out the others having that kind of thing.
ashecitism
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When the Vive got announced, Lionsgate, HBO and Google (there are hands-on impressions about Google maps VR) were listed as partners. When Valve sent out the first wave of dev kits, they said among the recipients were film studios. So yes. Also, one of the demos at GDC was a 3D painting app.
There should be quite a fair bit of stuff as mentioned above. There are studios from film and TV getting involved and others dedicated to this stuff too such as ILMxLab announced just the other day, doing Star Wars stuff being made specifically for VR / AR such as Vive - https://youtu.be/7T9Dv1aLMbw
Marc
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Its so weird, I was massively invested in Oculus from the beginning and their decision making has just dragged it to third place for me. Bit harsh considering they essentially made VR a reality, or at least pushed the competition forward... but yeah seems like I won't be buying it now.
This and Morpheus are tied for the moment until we know more IMO, but having proper VR controllers we all hoped for from the start as standard is the right move. Hopefully Sony does the same with some new versions of the move (with sticks).
This and Morpheus are tied for the moment until we know more IMO, but having proper VR controllers we all hoped for from the start as standard is the right move. Hopefully Sony does the same with some new versions of the move (with sticks).
David Attenborough's 'Origins of Life' documentary is launching on GearVR at the Natural History Museum in London, and I would expect this, and similar experiences, will have a big 'presence' in VR.