Magnet_Man
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Batman: Arkham Knight On PC Is Not Very Good [UP: WB suspends future sales until fix]
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"Have you tried restarting your computer?"
"The Recommended Spec is intended to deliver an experience on par with the current generation of gaming platforms."
Recommended Hardware Specs:
OS: Win 7 SP1, Win 8.1 (64-bit Operating System Required)
Processor: Intel Core i7-3770, 3.4 GHz | AMD FX-8350, 4.0 GHz
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 - 3 GB Memory Recommended
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Hard Drive: 55 GB available space
I understand that a PC isn't 1:1 with a PS4/Xbone. But you can equip a PC with hardware to closely match the performance one should get from a next gen hardware. It comes down to how well the dev can optimize there games. Witcher 3 is a good example. I can match the performance (FPS, visual quality) on my Alienware Alpha with that of a PS4 running the game.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
I can guarantee you can't with this game. How would you get Ambient Occlusion (AO) enabled on your PC? How would you get rain textures enabled on your PC?
There is no doubt this is a terrible port. Anybody arguing against that is delusional.
Are you talking about Batman AK? I was referring to The Witcher 3.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
I re-read your post and got that. I edited my original post to reflect my the point I was making.
Heart of Black
Member
Yes, that's exactly what they will do. I've been on the other side, I know what goes on. The pub says Oh it's not done? SHIP IT ANYWAY.
Images shamelessly stolen from a comment on the Eurogamer thread:
So, you guys want to see something funny? The PC version isn't just missing effects like AO - certain textures and models are entirely absent:
PC:
PS4:
PC:
PS4:
dude
Right, but you forget they are usually contracted to deliver with milestones and completion date...so the developer definitely shares a big amount of blame. You take the job and you do the job, simple.
This kind of baffles me because I'd think typically something being ported to a different platform would take place after it's been released for a while, but to have a different dev port your game for release alongside yours. If it was me, in any type of work, really, I'd want to make sure whoever's work goes alongside mine would not tarnish my name or reputation much less destroy expectations from fans for a game this big with such a well known franchise.
How would they develop this or how would the process work? Rocksteady basically makes the game and what, Iron Galaxy just plays follow the leader?
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Ha, I'm the opposite. Game is stable for me, but I'm not touching it until all the missing bells and whistles are put back in.
Q
Queen of Hunting
Unconfirmed Member
this whole saga has had problems
first was games for windows live second had major direct x 11 issues at launch. and the one before this was so forgetable i forgot its name.
first was games for windows live second had major direct x 11 issues at launch. and the one before this was so forgetable i forgot its name.
Lockjaw333
Member
Good. I'm definitely taking them up on the refund offer if the patch doesn't alleviate the issues.
If they hadn't come out and said this, myself and many others probably wouldn't have ordered another game from them given steams refund policy now.
Corpsepyre
Banned
Not sure if this was posted, but according to DSOgaming, the game reverts to DX10 the moment you switch any Gameworks effects on.
Not sure what difference that will make, but it appears to be happening.
Not sure what difference that will make, but it appears to be happening.
Coming in again to reiterate that the comparison above actually shows story-based differences, not tech stuff. The guy who did the comparison originally on Eurogamer failed to notice that the story would impact environments when he did the comparison.
The above screenshots actually don't mean anything, my bad.
Someone needs to merge the 2 threads on this topic. Discussions are getting fragmented
that makes sense and I actually thought that MUST be happening
That would require an application restart if it were happening, which seems unlikely since d3d11 is just an extension of the d3d10.1 library
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Game works requires a restart to take effect it's possible the game could be switching to dx10 then.
BlitzEngineer
Member
I got the PC version for free with that GTX 970 deal, and I still feel bad about supporting this crap. I almost don't want to buy the PS4 version but I like these games too much to skip it.
Original Man
Member
Dead at at 1.3 user rating on metacritic.
MickeyKnox
Member
Looks like Lang would have needed a new phone number anyway.
hammertomb
Banned
I did the same thing, couldn't run the game on a 970 and just got it on psn. l am part of the problem.
truestatic
Member
Oof. So since the Steam code has been used, does that mean that the publishers cut is coming directly out of their pocket? Harsh.
I don't think I'll do the same because the game is at lest playable for me on a 970, but was really looking forward it to being a showcase for my new card like Witcher 3 is. It's a shame because there's a great game under this mess.
7DollarHagane
Banned
I just think this is a really poor port job. I should be able to at least match the console on a 670 and i7.
I'll probably pick it up on ps4 whennit goes on sale. I got the PC version for free but I'm just going to uninstall it and go back to the witcher which looks much better than the ps4 version.
Shame about this. Everyone should request a refund if possible.
I'll probably pick it up on ps4 whennit goes on sale. I got the PC version for free but I'm just going to uninstall it and go back to the witcher which looks much better than the ps4 version.
Shame about this. Everyone should request a refund if possible.
This game is dropping fast on Steam. Those bad reviews pouring in.
I doubt it. WB will paying this bill I believe.
I doubt it. WB will paying this bill I believe.
That's not always how it works. If you're given problematic code that needs to be reoptimized for another platform you're going to have time issues. Add the fact that the publisher places weird demands (DRM for example) and your time and milestones muddle even further. Who knows when they were even given the code to work it in the first place.
If you can't finish a quality project after those issues? Pub will just say ship it. You can't blame a dev for trying to make the best of poor Pub decisions.
derExperte
Member
I wanted to wait a week before doing a refund but it's only getting worse, even if they fix it the game will be much cheaper by then anyway. More time to finally finish Origins I guess.
Not everyone can be as unbiased and agenda-free like yourself.
Btw, why are you in this thread again?
Not everyone can be as unbiased and agenda-free like yourself.
Btw, why are you in this thread again?
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Wow, as if it is not already enough:
Batman: Arkham Knight Reverts Back To DirectX 10 When NVIDIA Gameworks Effects Are Activated
Batman: Arkham Knight Reverts Back To DirectX 10 When NVIDIA Gameworks Effects Are Activated
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Junior Member
I'm starting to agree. Unless Rocksteady themselves dives in and meticulously figures out what bits and pieces are missing, I doubt the PC version will be up to snuff.
Which is why GMG should be offering refunds now.
Glitchesarecool
Member
There's no way a patch can fix this.
I'm in the same boat. Has ANYONE had anything happen re: codes and refunds? Has anyone TRIED?
This has been declared false already
Man, this is one fucked port.
Hey, maybe they pushed the wrong build branch to Steam!
But yeah, I honestly don't see how a patch will fix all the issues, at least within a short time frame. And I doubt WB will push any funding to hasten and/or smoothing things up. I keep staring at Twitter, waiting for news on a patch to pop up even if I have zero faith in the end result.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Batman was supposed to be my first "big" new PC game purchase, when I build my rig on Sunday.
Now, after browsing through this thread, I'm just not sure.
Doctor Ironic
Member
Don't destroy Rocksteady, it's not their fault. Destroy WB.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Where please? I hope what you say is true, because, the only interest for me for the PC version are those effects.
Hey, maybe they pushed the wrong build branch to Steam!
But yeah, I honestly don't see how a patch will fix all the issues, at least within a short time frame. And I doubt WB will push any funding to hasten and/or smoothing things up. I keep staring at Twitter, waiting for news on a patch to pop up even if I have zero faith in the end result.
You'll have to explain this to me. As a software developer, I can put out a patch that does anything I want it to do with my code.
Now, time frame wise - yes. I'm already thinking anything delivered within the next few days Isn't going to cure everything. I think it'll be a couple of weeks until we see the game perform well. I would hope they also improve the shaders and AO as well, but who knows.
Eh then they should speak out. I hold them accountable too.
I'm also a developer mate (system developer, to be exact), maybe I just used the wrong wording (not a native english speaker).
But yes, I agree with you. A patch can, hypothetically, fix everything wrong with the game. But I just don't see the interest from WB to fix this, at least within a reasonable time frame. But yep, of course I hope to be proven wrong on this.
This isn't exactly Rocksteady's fault...
Has it? The OSD is disabled when all 4 gameworks features are enabled, so I can't verify it myself.
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