Yeah, people are starting to exaggerate these issues.
Not to downplay them, either. They are unacceptable, but the PS4 has had worse releases, and yet it has survived.
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Batman: Arkham Knight On PC Is Not Very Good [UP: WB suspends future sales until fix]
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Yeah, people are starting to exaggerate these issues.
Not to downplay them, either. They are unacceptable, but the PS4 has had worse releases, and yet it has survived.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I've heard it all now, what is it with this gen that has PC gamers being so defensive and making comments like this.
I won't put all the blame on IG, but we can't absolve them of all blame. They've done a good job patching the vita port of Borderlands 2. However, between B2 Vita and Batman it shows a history of not being able to deliver a coherent experience at launch. Can't put that all on WBs shoulders.
It does for me, I get a ridiculous amount of stuttering, not only when driving the batmobile but also when gliding/fighting/standing still and rotating the camera. Game is literally unplayable thanks to the stuttering, and judging from this thread I am far from the only one. Sure, it is probably a memory leak of some kind, and it is probably possible to fix it, but as it stands, right now, I get unplayable levels of performance in a product I paid money for. That is inexcusable.
Dick Justice
Banned
This is the same guy who complained about GTA V looking too "gamey" at 60fps.
ScreamingTrees
Member
It does for me.
Teleporter
Junior Member
calm down user i dnt want to start anything! I just think that pc is a great market, even the future market and it needs more attention and respect overall, specially in bat times like these... low your guns...
FF Seraphim
Member
Joke Post? Must be a joke post...
Krappadizzle
Member
Not great. It'll run but with both a 770 and 780 you'll get frequent frame rate drops. I played all night with a 770(wife has a 780 in her PC) two days ago and got frequent dips into the teens. Even just gliding around you'll see constant drops in performance. Even at only 1080p30 with Shameworks off.
Who's saying IG is blameless?
Teleporter
Junior Member
smart man...
But developers are paid to make and finish making a game with a given amount of time. These things are contracted. It is not like they would just cut the development time short and hurry them up for release.
Blak_Status
Member
Have they even released an ETA for the patch?
Muskieratboi
Member
I'm gonna give Rocksteady the benefit of the doubt and guess that they are as fucking amazed at the state of the port as we are. Iron Galaxy is likely entirely at fault here. They may just delay dlc and take over the port themselves.
Besthelboy
Banned
Oh...
Yeah it's best that people don't waste their time replying to him like I have.
That's nice to know. Hopefully that patch hits soon so I can know if I'm capable for a refund.
Also lol at people who say "It works fine for me, must be a good port".
Applesauce
Boom! Bitch-slapped!
Like I posted earlier those of us who got the game for free after buying a card from Nvidia should try and ask them for a game that isn't borked.
nvidia@mailca.custhelp.com
You never know!
nvidia@mailca.custhelp.com
You never know!
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Yeah, right. The company (WB) that literally said fuck it to fixing game breaking bugs in order to focus on DLC last time is now going to delay DLC to focus on fixing their broken game.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Well, I just posted in the performance thread asking if that video and its constant 0-5 FPS drops is common. Let's see what they say. Maybe you're right, maybe not.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1068628&page=120
Starts on post #5968.
baphomet
Member
That's actually not a bad idea.
baphomet
Member
Schweinehund
Member
1. We don't know their actual amount of work porting it over. The demo was running like trash before E32014, I doubt they were involved at that point.
2. Their record isn't terrible like High Voltage. You can blame them for BL2 on vita but I'm surprised that shit is even running on a hand held in any capacity. They did fine on AO.
3. Ultimately the fault lies with WB regardless.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
The first two replies to that question indicate otherwise, but who am I to say.
E: Make that three
Came here to same this. My 980 ti is coming today and my main motivation for getting it turned out to be a turd sandwich. I was planning to upgrade my GPU and a free copy of AK pushed me over the edge based on the extra Nvidia effects and the fact the previous Arkham games ran great on my PC (plus it the upgrades I'd see in my other games).
Maybe they could substitute in something else, like Witcher 3.
NightStalkerCB
Neo Member
I'm one hour into the game and it runs fine for me but this is a terrible port.
Se_7_eN
Member
UPDATE
WB has issued a statement with some very helpful information about system settings, which is very cool and good because none of us had tried messing with those. thank you WB
Your update to their response did not disappoint... Thank you.
Very common. I had to move my install to my SSD drive to make the game tolerable, which is ridiculous considering the consoles are using 5400rpm mechanical drives.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Sorry "some" but there are a lot with similar view and vendetta this gen which gets everyone tarnished with the same brush, its weird.
Dying Of Thirst
Neo Member
Even stranger is the fact that Iron Galaxy had already worked with porting an UE3 game.(borderlands 2 for the vita)
KOTOR 2 says hi
Kind of a different situation, don't you think?
Arkham Knight pushes UE3 in ways that no other game has to date while Borderlands 2 was a very mid-tier game originally that had to be massively cut down for Vita.
It ran awful on the Vita, unfortunately, but I'm not sure it could ever have run well.
vita borderlands 2 is a mess though.
No one really knows why for sure. What I hate is how sneaky they were about it.
No hints that someone else could have handled the PC version until PC retail boxes started appearing with Iron Galaxy's logo on the back. Hell, Iron Galaxy's logo doesn't even appear in the game giving any hint that they did work.
All you see when starting the game is WB / Rocksteady / Nvidia. Rocksteady was sure quick to toss their 'external PC developer' under the bus, though.
We all expected that for this game. The previous games sold a couple of million copies each on PC, you'd think this would be at least worth the effort to do a proper port.
But apparently not.
BronzeWolf
Banned
People should stop making this a problem a Consoles vs. PC issue. The fact that the PS4 version exists is only relevant in the sense that we can see what the game was supposed to look like, but even in its absence, this is still a debacle.
Even if this game was exclusive for PC, people would be asking for refunds
I see also a lot people defending the pubdevs by saying that people are over blowing the issue. I don't think that's fair. People spend a whole ton of money to get very capable machines and expect games to run to a certain level of performance. PC gamers KNOW very well what their systems are and are not capable of running. If the pubdev is not capable of realizing that this IS the market for PC, they are disrespecting it.
In other words, stop blaming the consumer for the faults of the game maker. The consumer will be always right, so they better get in shape.
Even if this game was exclusive for PC, people would be asking for refunds
I see also a lot people defending the pubdevs by saying that people are over blowing the issue. I don't think that's fair. People spend a whole ton of money to get very capable machines and expect games to run to a certain level of performance. PC gamers KNOW very well what their systems are and are not capable of running. If the pubdev is not capable of realizing that this IS the market for PC, they are disrespecting it.
In other words, stop blaming the consumer for the faults of the game maker. The consumer will be always right, so they better get in shape.
You asked and answered your own question. I couldn't resist that GMG discount.
I know better now though.
The PS4 fanboys see blood, and they're on the attack.
Don't know why, this is a "battle" they've been losing since the gen started. And I'm using scare quotes around battle 'cause this is just stupid fanboy stuff.
It's just childish, and diverts attention from the real issue here.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
1) it doesn't work that way
2) there is no setting for console like graphics
You can try emulate it, but it wont be the same.
Dying Of Thirst
Neo Member
Good point. I wonder why they were chosen to do the port in the first place.
Yeah that's pretty shady to be honest. Had people known it was being ported by an external dev they probably would have held off on buying it until it was tested in the wild. Of course WB cared more about getting money that putting out a quality product or informing gamers who was making the this version.
Let's say they fix the stutter issue, right? If AO and water shaders are re-enabled, a GTX670 and FX8350@4.5ghz will give you better than console framerates (assuming the enabled AO and water shaders don't somehow tank performance for no reason).
Of course, the PS4 version is limited to 30fps anyway, so you don't really know how high it can go.
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