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Bethesda: "The time for convincing pubs and devs to support Wii U has long past"
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SporeCrawler
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Ports? It doesnt seem like wiiu is that hard to port to and there will be ps360 games beyond 2014
Come on son, the Cannon Room glitch required you to save in the room, which 99% of people did not. Hell, the percentage is probably higher.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
I do find it odd that Bethesda keeps getting asked this every month.
The thing about Bethesda is, they were down on Wii U even before it was released.
http://www.videogamer.com/news/bethesda_not_yet_sold_on_wii_u.html
The thing about Bethesda is, they were down on Wii U even before it was released.
http://www.videogamer.com/news/bethesda_not_yet_sold_on_wii_u.html
peanutbutterlatte
Member
It's about taking a gamble, and developers just aren't interested in doing so when Sony and Microsoft seem like way safer bets. I can kinda see their point, but it's stupid too because they're using the wrong things to justify their indifference.
It is too late now, and a financially bad move now, but it wasn't when the Wii U was released, before it came out even. A Bethesda title would have had to have been in development for many years, so they can hardly use the Wii U's lack of market share (due in part to few titles) as an excuse, since they could have helped out with that.
But the tech's a big factor too. Nintendo are at fault of course. There's just no need to be this condescending towards a company you could potentially work with, and bring a lot of profit and good things to the industry you work in.
Broken Logic
Neo Member
Who keeps asking them about this? Sure, let's ask the least likely Dev to support the system if they'll support the system, and then, let's ask them again every month, just in case. We get it, Bethesda doesn't make Nintendo games. We don't need you to telling us the sky is blue.
Edit: Basically what axisofweevils said.
Edit: Basically what axisofweevils said.
Ultra Magnus
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Version 3.0
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I would like to publicly state that I am not currently developing on Wii U, either. Please check back in a few weeks for an update. Here's a hint: not likely.
Nocturno999
Member
Gemüsepizza;79636981 said:
And you think Bethesda's upcoming games will run buttery smooth on the arguably weak new consoles?
They could easily port a Skyrim or Fallout making good use of the pad's features.
SporeCrawler
Member
Wiiu had a decent launch but it fell flat due to a bad software release schedule
3DS had a very poor launch (launched march) and until Mariokart and the pricedrop came it sold horribly as well.. I wouldnt call it another stratosphere. Both platforms sold pretty poorly in the first 6 month after the initial launch period.
maplelord93
Banned
harsh, dam
No, that would be aweful.
People keep asking question we know the answer to. People keep making threads of these answers.
ThroneZwei
Banned
So their opinion on anything Nintendo is well, moot isn't it? They don't even developer Nintendo games and have shown no intention to do so. Balls to them saying 'WELP WE'RE NOT CONVINCED'.
Ninja Scooter
Member
thread title is (now) pretty clear if you don't like the topic you don't have to click on the thread.
Nintendo needs a shake up, seriously. The only way Nintendo are going to have a broad, healthy console for enthusiast gamers is if they change their attitude towards third parties, hardware and consumers. To get there they need to hit rock bottom.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
And Ubisoft, producer of... 3 games for the system this winter, that can be bought anything else, are going to shake them up? Get real.
His is a very reasonable and truthful response, I actually don't even see any animosity either, it's just the truth. Nintendo, with the Wii and WiiU, decided to go with a disruptive hardware design and see if it would take off. Core gamers already have examples of how the WiiU would work to enhance core games, such as with Batman, and they don't care. The casual gamers will soon see how the WiiU enhances their type of games when Wii Party U comes out.
On the N64, Doom 64 and Harvest Moon 64 coexisted with each other. It would appear that the kinds of third party support Nintendo attracted since then, would be on more of the "Harvest Moon 64" side. Ironically enough, back in my childhood, I would have chosen to get Doom 64, but nowadays, I would choose Harvest Moon. I am very eager to see what platform the next console Harvest Moon game (or Rune Factory) shows up on. (There was a single Rune Factory game on PS3, so that makes me very curious.)
Will Nintendo lose Harvest Moon? If so, then I will declare that they have lost all third party support, I will send a letter to Nintendo saying "It's one thing to not get Grand Theft Auto or Elder Scrolls, or even Doom, but you lost Harvest Moon? Pathetic." If they lose Harvest Moon, even I will declare they hit rock bottom.
edit: Oh, and Nintendo better believe that Nintendo fans can like Bethesda's games. Medieval adventures such as the Elder Scrolls are the third party games I got for the PC and Xbox consoles I got as gifts.
On the N64, Doom 64 and Harvest Moon 64 coexisted with each other. It would appear that the kinds of third party support Nintendo attracted since then, would be on more of the "Harvest Moon 64" side. Ironically enough, back in my childhood, I would have chosen to get Doom 64, but nowadays, I would choose Harvest Moon. I am very eager to see what platform the next console Harvest Moon game (or Rune Factory) shows up on. (There was a single Rune Factory game on PS3, so that makes me very curious.)
Will Nintendo lose Harvest Moon? If so, then I will declare that they have lost all third party support, I will send a letter to Nintendo saying "It's one thing to not get Grand Theft Auto or Elder Scrolls, or even Doom, but you lost Harvest Moon? Pathetic." If they lose Harvest Moon, even I will declare they hit rock bottom.
edit: Oh, and Nintendo better believe that Nintendo fans can like Bethesda's games. Medieval adventures such as the Elder Scrolls are the third party games I got for the PC and Xbox consoles I got as gifts.
Prince Vultan
Banned
Wasn't there also some game breaking glitch in Skyward Sword as well? I can remember reading about it after the game came out. Something about doing some series of quests in a certain order rendering the game unfinishable I think...
I didn't realise Nintendo had been so careless with their QA this gen. You'd have thought they'd patch those games by now or something.
A Nintendo box with occasionally third party gems and exclusives and down ports of Ubisoft and Warner Bros and Activision games.
The game breaking glitch in Metroid Other M is a blessing in disguise. A game so shit that not even it wants you to play it.
Bethesda is pissed that they were not involved in the design process of the system itself. That´s understandable to some degree. But that´s just not what Nintendo does, for better or for worse. Especially not with a company that never released anything worthwhile on their systems.
Hate as much as you want, Bethesda, Nintendo has been around for 125 years and they will be so for another 125 years. Yes, they are colorful, non violent and "kiddie" and they have absolutely nothing in common with your dearly beloved PC with its specs updated every single month.
You can take you one colored Fallouts and Skyrims to another platfroms, Nintendo consoles require games more than 1 color anyway.
You can take you one colored Fallouts and Skyrims to another platfroms, Nintendo consoles require games more than 1 color anyway.
Glass Rebel
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At this point it's simply delusional to think that Nintendo will return to competing head to head with Microsoft and Sony. A company that relies on its first party games as much as Nintendo does won't risk a move as bold as skipping an entire generation with no guarantee for success. They will go the low to mid-end route which developers like Beth will continue to ignore.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Totally relevant post, dude.
Atleast you're not taking it personal.
Yes! I was waiting for the monthly "Bethesda: we are not making games for WiiU" thread. September redeemed.
FWIW, This one actually comes from an early August interview at QuakeCon that just released. A lot of folks ask Pete similar questions.
Freezie KO
Banned
Pretty sure Nintendo consulted Ubisoft and EA prior to release of the Wii U hardware. And then their relationship with EA fell apart.
Hard to tell if Nintendo actually listened to what their developers wanted though. From the look of the Wii U hardware, the only thing that screams third-party appeasement is that the controller is essentially a dual analog pad.
Hard to tell if Nintendo actually listened to what their developers wanted though. From the look of the Wii U hardware, the only thing that screams third-party appeasement is that the controller is essentially a dual analog pad.
Sentenza
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Origami Superman
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Bethesda sure likes to talk about Wii U.
Sorry, but I just hate them so much. I tried to get in their franchise but they were soo boring. Boring, one colored, uber serious western RPG's. So much for calling myself a "gamer-who-likes-every-single-genre".
You made a claim that publishers self interest is served by sinking money into a struggling Nintendo platform. In this post you didn't even attempt to qualify that statement. Instead you decided to attack my argument and go off on a tangent that isn't even really relative to your previous post.
The Indie scene and iOS most certainly has had it's number of flops but such is the nature of the beast. It has also lowered the bar for entry to a point that a lot of developers and artists who otherwise would of never been able to break into the industry to make their mark. But that's beside the point. Please explain why it is in the best interest of publishers like ea and Bethesda to spend money on the failing wiiU?
Yup. I doubt they would have asked for that hardware design.
RagingAvatar
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Let's try and stay on topic - I'm not particularly thrilled with what Bethesda said - but I'd have to say that Skyrim is a fantastic game and I love it. I'd just love to see their stuff on Wii U.. :'(
(Thought: Skyrim on gamepad.. playing it in bed! hnnng)
Still not understanding the hatred, i never liked games from epic, can't say i hate them just for that.
Diddy Kong
Banned
I'm pretty sure most devs knew over a year before launch whether or not they were actually supporting it. EA for example just had things in case it blew up like Wii but it was clear they never gave a shit, all of their money is going into specific rendering tech, it didn't make sense to them and that goes for many companies including Bethesda. Most big companies do not have the teams or abilities to take advantage things like hardware inputs and it's especially risky, if Call of Duty sells you make Call of Duty, you don't go experimenting at the multi-million dollar level which is almost what Wii U is asking.
SolidSnakex
Member
So because of that you don't care if they release games on Nintendo consoles? You don't see why it's a really bad thing for that console if one of the biggest publishers in gaming doesn't want to publish or develop games for it?
The_Macho_King
Banned
This is pretty much the truth. The platform is a huge risk for anyone contributing their time and money on a project for the Wii U.
Mr.Marston
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Sentenza
Member
I don't like Bethesda games myself, but that has hardly anything to do with how silly your rant sounded.
"I HATE YOU SO MUCH FOR NOT SUPPORTING THIS PLASTIC BOX I BOUGHT! OH; AND YOUR GAMES SUCK BY THE WAY!".
...Really?
PhoenixDark
Banned
How are they "talking shit?" It's not a good system for them (or most developers, let's be honest), yet they're often asked about it.
Things aren't going to magically reverse, Nintendo missed their shot.
Red Chocobo
Banned
They treat Nintendo like they do PS3 owners.
Father_Brain
Banned
He's right.
If Nintendo had any intention of competing for the 17-35 male market, they needed to make an extremely aggressive play for it well before launch. It's far too late at this point.
If Nintendo had any intention of competing for the 17-35 male market, they needed to make an extremely aggressive play for it well before launch. It's far too late at this point.