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BLM Nashville meetings cancelled by public library for being "No whites allowed"
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Is there like a national chapter that issues guidelines on how individual chapters are ran?
I ask because there is a lot of misinformation about the BLM movement that paints with a wide brush that the whole thing is just a reason to be racist and anti-cop and anti-white.
How does the movement work against the public perception of that? Some of the people that think BLM calls for killing of cops when it's just someone that isn't even affiliated with the group to begin with.
I ask because there is a lot of misinformation about the BLM movement that paints with a wide brush that the whole thing is just a reason to be racist and anti-cop and anti-white.
How does the movement work against the public perception of that? Some of the people that think BLM calls for killing of cops when it's just someone that isn't even affiliated with the group to begin with.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Let's not start with safe spaces, that'll stir up a whole new set of trolls.
The library is 100% in the right, you can't take it over and say "no white people."
However
The people who generally shout the loudest in these instances are also those who think BLM is a joke.
The library is 100% in the right, you can't take it over and say "no white people."
However
The people who generally shout the loudest in these instances are also those who think BLM is a joke.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Here's my take on the "including white people" thing: we've been included in civil rights this whole time, and what have we shown for it?
Thecoli?
Are the AL BLM chapters more exclusive or something?
Sorry, I wasn't making anything about anything. It was just the first time I had heard of it.
People are balking at the particular situation, don't conflate. And probably not wise to broadrush an entire race of people.
Chie Satonaka
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Alcotholic
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"If you care about black lives, you best stay out of it."
DrGonzo615
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How is this not ban worthy racism?
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
I mean, if you think BLM is this concerned with identity politics to a judgmental level, then okay. I'm pretty sure they just want white people to do anything while they keep their focus centered on black and queer leadership, as it says on their website. Pro-black =/= anti-white. You'll find plenty of awesome white people in every BLM group.
I can guarantee you, you're not going to get much done without them.
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I disagree. I think a good thing about BLM is that it isn't structured like a unified organization. When things like this happen people who think critically will either say "I don't agree with the actions of the chapter" or "it doesn't bother me" and move on without letting that tarnish what the movement as a whole means. I think what needs to happen is articles such as this are going to have to start using better titles for their articles and maybe do more investigation into these local chapters.
Alcotholic
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Because to some people, you cant be racist to white people.
But i dont think its really worth banning over.
Byakuya769
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Idiots.
You've got to be kidding me...
ITT: generalizations
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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It's fact. Get involved in racial activism and politics on a local, national, or even global level. Look at your local BLM's Facebook group or Twitter. The exact same bullshit arguments, deflections, and defensiveness you see from white people on the Internet all over forums and comment sections are happening out there in real life. Hillary Clinton does it right to BLM's face.
A movement needs allies to be successful.
To me turning away or excluding well meaning and willing people to your cause is probably making things harder then it needs to be.
I can understand in certain situations a blacks only discussion but to want to exclude non people of color generally seems rather unwise.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Well, not this Nashville chapter apparently.
You can argue with some proof that the general public has no interest in balancing the scales, but you can't preclude people right off the bat.
Also, I think some of you should go back and take a look at your posts in threads about race before you get too jumpy about Liu and Coffee Dog
stufte
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This is in direct conflict with your original post in this thread.
Wasn't this after just a fuckton of rioting and protesting lol
And I mean that in a good way
Whites don't do shit unless it's rammed down our throats
Stop generalising people based on their race.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Look at what you're saying here. I don't even disagree with you. "White supremacy" is real in America.
Hey it's just like attending a BLM meeting! Thanks for this #TBT on a Monday.
Gotdatmoney
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If you want to have a private assembly you have to pay for the space to be private. The fact they didn't want white people there isn't racism however.
Pandora012
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I just think that excluding people does not help. It just feels like this chapter, at least, is moving backwards.
This sounds pretty racist...
elrechazado
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And the one he just made.
That´s some bullshit right there.
Yikes.
But that's not limited to civil rights or anything. The same level of political discourse occurs for everything; you will have a few educated people who are able to have the conversation at a higher level, able to discuss things and come up with new ideas.
Everyone else is just going to rehash the same conversation over and over again. Look at gun control, abortion, euthanasia... nothing new under the sun.
It's not a white people or black people thing. It's a human thing.
Chie Satonaka
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It is FANTASTIC that we're making this about "reverse racism" and certain people's hurt feelings.
Hey, guys?
I don't agree with their general stance, but for those of you who are doing this, maybe this type of behavior is why that BLM chapter is sticking so hard and fast to the "no white people" rule.
Maybe take a second and think about that?
Hey, guys?
I don't agree with their general stance, but for those of you who are doing this, maybe this type of behavior is why that BLM chapter is sticking so hard and fast to the "no white people" rule.
Maybe take a second and think about that?
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Black people not trusting white people on sight isn't some new thing. Neither is black people knowing trustworthy white people, with everyone involved stepping up to help each other.
Yep, this.
I agree. More allies is always good and I would feel horrible saying no to someone who wants to help me.
This is also a problem. I remember a thread on NeoGAF a few months ago about some Facebook conflict between white people and black people at a college. At first it appeared to me that the white guy was a BLM ally since he set up his own meeting or something. I later discovered that he was some kind of saboteur and was purposely stirring trouble up by scheduling his meeting at the same time as BLM's (with only white people attending) and other stuff. I can definitely understand why this BLM chapter would do this but I don't agree with it. I think it is better to deal with those types of people on a case-by-case basis than to just assume that all white people that attend BLM meetings are like that.
LizardKing
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No whites allowed is straight up racist. No ifs, no buts.
It is pretty much a deal breaker. The library had no choice here. And it is not even about hurt feelings. It is clear cut racism.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Im a huge supporter of diversity and blm but you cant make restrictions based on race, especially on publicly funded places.
Race is not something absolute that can be objectively determined. What if you are pale but have African ancestry? What if you are dark but not African? One drop rule?
The whole concept of safe spaces is bullshit tbh. You can have events and institutions targeting communities, but you cant exclude people arbitrarily.
If someone is trolling or not supportive kick em out. You can't exclude people based on appearance alone.
This is not racism or reverse racism. I just think it's not a smart strategy. I dont agree with safe spaces.
Race is not something absolute that can be objectively determined. What if you are pale but have African ancestry? What if you are dark but not African? One drop rule?
The whole concept of safe spaces is bullshit tbh. You can have events and institutions targeting communities, but you cant exclude people arbitrarily.
If someone is trolling or not supportive kick em out. You can't exclude people based on appearance alone.
This is not racism or reverse racism. I just think it's not a smart strategy. I dont agree with safe spaces.
False.
A movement needs to empower its people to be successful. BLM as a movement is about getting black people to remember that we are a strength and a force in this country, and to remind us that we have the right to demand the same rights and treatment as everyone else, regardless of whether or not you like us.
Allies are cool, but they aren't the point.
Didn't say it wasn't. Doesn't apply in this case. Did you say "White Supremacy" is real when Obama was elected twice? Just curious.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Would you like to attend a BLM meeting in your area?
This thread is seriously meta AS FUCK
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