UnluckyKate
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Killzone had double the ram. All the other (mostly Xbox) were running on PC at reveal and E3...
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Bullshots: How close did PS4/XB1 games come to the E3 builds? Let's see!
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Killzone had double the ram. All the other (mostly Xbox) were running on PC at reveal and E3...
Chairmanchuck
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People think The Division will look like that? Seriously?
They already used Screenshots that have been edited with CS6.
They have a history of "Bull"-Trailers (Farcry 3, Watch_Dogs). No way it will look like that.
They already used Screenshots that have been edited with CS6.
They have a history of "Bull"-Trailers (Farcry 3, Watch_Dogs). No way it will look like that.
On a high-end PC... maybe.
HassanJamal
Member
Killzone lives up!
Honestly I've come to loathe next gen reveals.
I feel like each and every time I see these bull shots and prerendered trailers being propped up as "in game footage" that it just makes me less interested in next gen and more interested in the gen after. The gen that will actually be able to match those bull shots.
At the very least all this crap has made me more interested in a customized steam box that might be able to meet that output eventually and less enthusiastic about my brand spanking new ps4.
Killzone being the one exception.
I feel like each and every time I see these bull shots and prerendered trailers being propped up as "in game footage" that it just makes me less interested in next gen and more interested in the gen after. The gen that will actually be able to match those bull shots.
At the very least all this crap has made me more interested in a customized steam box that might be able to meet that output eventually and less enthusiastic about my brand spanking new ps4.
Killzone being the one exception.
panama chief
Member
Any NFS: Rivals comparisons?
Shadow Fall, February reveal vs final gameplay.
Feb reveal top, Final build bottom.
Wait till you actually play the game dude. Just wait.
There are some bland looking areas, but you won't believe your eyes when you realize that the game actually looks as amazing as most of us expected, but were skeptical of.
I've said this a couple of times already, but... The IQ man, the IQ.
Killzone looks alot better, the easiest way to see is look at the e3 forest demo and the current game.
OLD ( Direct )
New (Compressed from PS4, not direct )
Lolroffle, top shot is KZ: Mercenary a Vita game.
nelsonroyale
Member
Hahahaha, KZ M looks great, but that is definitely not from that game haha
nelsonroyale
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CaptainTiptop
Member
Killzone: Mercenary doesn't look THAT good lol.
And all bullet proof.
And they still claim that there is massive inefficiency (or rather, I should say, plenty of room for optimization) in the shaders at launch.
3rd gen PS4 games are going to be ridiculous.
It's actually a shame that the PC community can't have access to the hardware at a lower level. Just think what we could do to a game like Killzone like we did with GTA IV or Skyrim.
Come on man, that is true realism. Look at Sao Paolo:
Please tell me that isn't real...
Aizu_Itsuko
Member
No, that's not only a bullshot but the worst kind of bullshot, the one that not only is lying about how the game looks but also about how the actual game plays.
Every single thing in those shots has been perfectly positioned to make the game look more exciting than it actually is.
phosphor112
Banned
I think it's funny that Sony was closest to their reveals.
Knack, KZ, Driveclub, while Microsoft's almost all had downgrades.
It matches what Thuway said about MS using higher power GPU's in their kits than the retail boxes while Sony had it the other way around.
Knack, KZ, Driveclub, while Microsoft's almost all had downgrades.
It matches what Thuway said about MS using higher power GPU's in their kits than the retail boxes while Sony had it the other way around.
grosvenor_92
Member
EA bullshoted the most
Killzone looks almost the same to me
Ryse, dead rising 3, forza all bullshots
Killzone looks almost the same to me
Ryse, dead rising 3, forza all bullshots
RedNumberFive
Banned
I think that is the most important takeaway here.
Shadow Fall, February reveal vs final gameplay.
Feb reveal top, Final build bottom.
Yeah, I can see quite a bit of downgrading in this.
EA's footage can't even be qualified as "bullshots" since they're all target renders, outside of BF4.
Forza:
That crowd...
You can even see it in the shot up there. Look at the crowd. The E3 one is all shaded and not obvious. The launch one is all shit straight out of Mortal Kombat 1.
omg i'm cracking up
this is hilarious
The Division? Yeah. It wasn't a target render, so the engine and assets are in place. The only limiting factor will be the hardware, and considering that it will be getting a PC release, I don't expect any significant downgrades.
eot
Banned
What I see is horrible jpeg compression
nelsonroyale
Member
What I see is what I want to see.
Off-Kilter
Banned
Jesus EA lol
phosphor112
Banned
Forza:
That crowd...
You can even see it in the shot up there. Look at the crowd. The E3 one is all shaded and not obvious. The launch one is all shit straight out of Mortal Kombat 1.
How did this even happen. Who said "This looks great guys! Let's ship it!" after taking one look at that crowd.
Chairmanchuck
Member
The Farcry-3 E3/GC-Demo also wasnt a target-render. You could play it at conventions like that.
The retail-version was still a downgrade though, even though you have all the assets. I am sure the same will happen to the Division. The Demos for conventions will look far better than the Game in the end.
Besides FC3 we saw what happened to Watch_Dogs. I am sure the next footage wont look as good as what we saw before.
jetpacks was yes
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The brown buildings are, of course, but the white buildings (and people lol) are conceptual renderings.
edit: looks like it's from here: http://www.u-tt.com/home.html
SpookyFries
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Good to see they're using Crusin' USA technology in Forza
Omg I always wanted to do the shit out of her when I was a kid.
Forza 5 looks pretty terrible now, just watch some direct feed of the release build if you don't believe me.
I guess thats what happens when a game runs at 1080p 60fps on Xbox One
Link to download direct feed gameplay is on the left: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-next-gen-now-forza-motorsport-5
I guess thats what happens when a game runs at 1080p 60fps on Xbox One
Link to download direct feed gameplay is on the left: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-next-gen-now-forza-motorsport-5
Forza:
That crowd...
You can even see it in the shot up there. Look at the crowd. The E3 one is all shaded and not obvious. The launch one is all shit straight out of Mortal Kombat 1.
Dat mortal Kombat reference
Forza:
That crowd...
You can even see it in the shot up there. Look at the crowd. The E3 one is all shaded and not obvious. The launch one is all shit straight out of Mortal Kombat 1.
This seems like more of a design decision, they decided to go for real people instead of animated models.
Zuhzuhzombie!!
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On my PC it will.
Honestly, knowing what Ubisoft have done before - it won't.
The video's already been posted in here, but there's a comparison of Far Cry 3 at E3 with actual gameplay maxed out - and there are plenty of downgrades. I'm willing to bet Watch Dogs maxed out on PC will have things missing that were present in the reveal, too.
AwakenedCloud
Member
What really matters is how they look in motion. If it helps performance and it's not noticeable when driving at high speeds, then it makes sense to go about doing it that way.
jim2point0
Banned
You don't know that. PC games get downgraded too. Once they start building the entire game, they realize the E3 demo they built might have been too ambitious when applied to a large scale.
I don't expect it to look that good on PC once finally released. It would be nice though...
Since you brought up Gears of War before editing, let's remember those glorious bullshots.
I wonder how close current gen consoles could get to that level of image quality with an upgen port. There's a few games I'd love to play again with that kind of image quality bump. I'm not planning on buying an xbox one, but if some of the games on the 360 I missed (I never owned one) from this gen got a visual upgrade like this I could be tempted.
Thug Waffle
Member
holy shit at madden, nba live, and fifa. ea gonna ea.
also kind of disappointed with forza.
also kind of disappointed with forza.
Liamario
Banned
Of course it was a design decision... The decision went something like this.
"OK guys, the current drivers we have are shit, there's no way we can live up to the bullshots and we are out of time. Fuck the 3D crowd and lets gets some pics from google and started copying and pasting"