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[Ywap]

DD barely runs with 30fps. I wonder how they could learn anything from that.

I tried the 360 demo and it almost felt like single digits sometimes. So yeah, wonder what they learned...

 

[Zeliard]

i think it's pretty crass and culturally insensitive that you're just dropping "itsuno" without the correct prefix or suffix like it's a dog's name.

What?

Have you never written a formal research paper.

Referring to someone by their last name/surname is how it's done in most cultures.

I think it's more inappropriate to use Japanese honorifics in a conversation between English speakers simply because the subject is a Japanese man

And here I thought this thread couldn't get any funnier after those Itsuno quotes.

 

[GrayFoxPL]

“So even though you have it running at 30 frames per second, you create the motions and the poses in such a way that the brain will naturally fill in what would have been the extra frames.

“Also, on the players' side, we made some adjustments to the button response and when it's reflected on screen.”

Itsuno said action games that run at 60 frames per second can have a tiring effect on players' eyes after a long time because the frames themselves “almost shake or flash”. Because of this, “adjusting the speed is almost necessary”.

 

[Reiko]

Itsuno said action games that run at 60 frames per second can have a tiring effect on players' eyes after a long time because the frames themselves “almost shake or flash”. Because of this, “adjusting the speed is almost necessary”.

So much bullshit. lmao

 

[Dahbomb]

Dude, what you are observing is what happens in every DmC thread. It doesn't matter how irrelevant, they'll find something to latch onto and keep going at it and at it. Also, Itsuno saying they are implementing techniques and doing whatever they can to make sure the game emulates a 60 fps game despite running at the industry console norm of 30 fps is NOT a ridiculous statement. We have all played 30 fps games where one feels a lot more responsive and smoother than another game which is also at 30 fps.

GOD DAMN AGAIN WITH THE INDUSTRY STANDARD BULL CRAP!

I guess someone shouldn't tell Capcom that the most played/watched Esports game and the best selling franchise of this generation are both running at 60FPS.

Games shouldn't be trying to be the standard/norm they should try to be better than the rest. If you are going for the generic "par for the course" standards on your game, then why should we pay top dollar for the games? Especially for a series that is known for it in the first place.

All this argument about 30/60 is sillier considering that the PC version is 60FPS too. I guess Capcom doesn't care about the eyes of the PC gamers now.

 

[lupinko]

If it's 30 FPS-locked like Vanquish, then it's fine.

But this is Ninja Theory, not Mikami-wizardry.

 

[Ywap]

So much bullshit. lmao

Have to thank the guy for the good laugh anyway

 

[Kayo-kun]

Dat Cacpom magic!

 

[Yoshichan]

But this is Ninja Theory, not Mikami-wizardry.

Motion blur isn't something Mikami-exclusive :/

 

[Gbraga]

I tried the 360 demo and it almost felt like single digits sometimes. So yeah, wonder what they learnt...

I believe they've been doing plenty of research, so they've learnt a lot.

Spoiler

Doctor Snakes

 

[Omegasquash]

@ Capcom: Nope.

 

[prwxv3]

What a bullshit excuse. If any of you want donte in 60 FPS you should all buy All-stars. It also looks like he plays faster in All-stars as well.

Spoiler

I am still kind of excited for DMC

 

[MagiusNecros]

His name is now Shitsuno.

Spoiler

I'm terrible

 

[Lunar15]

It'll be interesting to see how many reviews use the terminology, "Feels like 60 FPS".

 

[Durante]

Itsuno said action games that run at 60 frames per second can have a tiring effect on players' eyes after a long time because the frames themselves “almost shake or flash”. Because of this, “adjusting the speed is almost necessary”.

This kind of brazen distortion of truth is what I would expect from a 12 year old console warrior defending his favorite exclusive. To hear it from a developer is sickening.

Next up: higher rendering resolutions contain too much detail, causing player's brains to overheat when processing the picture. "Sub-HD is almost necessary"

 

[Dahbomb]

Next up: higher rendering resolutions contain too much detail, causing player's brains to overheat. "Sub-HD is almost necessary"

Wasn't there just a thread about some guy saying he is more immersed in a lower resolution on his games?

 

[AcceptableGhost]

I love how desperate they are trying to justify Ninja Theory's shittyness. 60FPS action games is Capcom's lifeblood.

 

[NoirVisage]

I love how desperate they are trying to justify Ninja Theory's shittyness. 60FPS action games is Capcom's lifeblood.

Not if they can make more money off of these new 30fps games by hit or miss (well, mostly miss in this case) western devs.

 

[JaseC]

Wasn't there just a thread about some guy saying he is more immersed in a lower resolution on his games?

Yeah. The underlying concept seems to be that having a game running at a lower resolution with lower settings hides the unevenness of asset quality, creating a uniform and therefore more immersive experience.

 

[Erasus]

See this for how Criterion did some magic with 30fps:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-needforspeed-tech-interview

It comes down to use of threading, the game used only one thread for everything, unlike most others.

Now UE3 like most everything else has a seperate thread for rendering and game logic, and I very much doubt they've altered the engine that much to change it.

Thats damn interesting and impressive.

 

[Seik]

Itsuno said action games that run at 60 frames per second can have a tiring effect on players' eyes after a long time because the frames themselves “almost shake or flash”. Because of this, “adjusting the speed is almost necessary”.

Yeah right.

Its not 60fps because they care about our health. :lol

His name is now Shitsuno.

Spoiler

I'm terrible

You're not, I'll even say BullShitsuno

 

[Majanew]

Itsuno said action games that run at 60 frames per second can have a tiring effect on players' eyes after a long time because the frames themselves “almost shake or flash”.

HAHAHA

So much stupid

 

[AcceptableGhost]

Not if they can make more money off of these new 30fps games by hit or miss (well, mostly miss in this case) western devs.

They have had nothing but disaster stories outside of Dead Rising 2 and ORC (which ORC is a critical disaster but it coasted off the RE name). I highly doubt DmC will do better than DMC4 financially.

 

[drizzle]

"controller techniques" that make the game "feel like 60 fps"?

So they're polling the controller and calculating movement at 60 fps, but rendering at 30 fps?

Forza style, except it's 240 "fps" controller poll, 120 "fps" physics calculation and 60fps rendering there?

 

[Protein]

The 60fps-like experience™

Time to sell my Gaming PC.

 

[thetrin]

60 fps hurts your eyes? I'm pretty sure HIGHER frame rate is better for our eyes than lower frame rate.

 

[AcceptableGhost]

60 fps hurts your eyes? I'm pretty sure HIGHER frame rate is better for our eyes than lower frame rate.

Yeah, this is true as well. Higher frame rates actually are better for your eyes in all cases.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

talking to gamers like we're stupid again.

 

[Orobi]

If I close my eyes, DmC seems to run @ 120fps on PS3.

 

[jmdajr]

THANKS!

 

[TTP]

So that's why I wear prescription glasses. It's because the damn life runs at above 60fps!

 

[2MF]

I'm going to sell my PC, it's too fast.

 

[xenist]

Yeah, this is true as well. Higher frame rates actually are better for your eyes in all cases.

No! How dare you! Have you no honor? How can you slap Itsuno-san's reputation like this? There are superior studies made in Japan!

 

[QisTopTier]

Years of playing fighting games for 10 hours a day has left me blind. If only capcom cared sooner

 

[Nirolak]

Itsuno said action games that run at 60 frames per second can have a tiring effect on players' eyes after a long time because the frames themselves “almost shake or flash”. Because of this, “adjusting the speed is almost necessary”.

I wonder if Itsuno will get a hold of their fighting games.

 

[onQ123]

What the fuck is this shit.jpg

 

[BeautifulMemory]

You guys, this game is being received positively in Japan, we are just opinionated westerners

 

[legacyzero]

Wat.

I find 60 to be easy on the eyes.

Who-da-thunk-it?

 

[Glass Rebel]

No comfy couch
Angular graphics
Unhealthy framerates

PC gaming is done.

 

[Anth0ny]

Itsuno said action games that run at 60 frames per second can have a tiring effect on players' eyes after a long time because the frames themselves “almost shake or flash”. Because of this, “adjusting the speed is almost necessary”.

 

[darth_infamous]

Well, fortunately the PC version will run at 60 on a good rig.

Yeep. Master race and all that.

 

[sleepykyo]

I wonder if Itsuno will get a hold of their fighting games.

Well, Ono is exhausted and I can't imagine Ayano is going to be able save SFxT.

Damn.

 

[Goon Boon]

I'd say enjoy the feeling of $60, but that'd imply I would buy it for thirty bucks.

 

[Dictator93]

This kind of brazen distortion of truth is what I would expect from a 12 year old console warrior defending his favorite exclusive. To hear it from a developer is sickening.

Next up: higher rendering resolutions contain too much detail, causing player's brains to overheat when processing the picture. "Sub-HD is almost necessary"

Durante. Please tell me you saw that thread last week about games looking better with a lower resolution? I was dying

 

[panda21]

How about not buying this game is almost necessary.

I wonder if its sub-HD too. those sharp pixels might hurt someones eyes.

 

[Infinite Justice]

The greatest example of damage control i've ever seen :O

 

[Nibel]

...

BRING IN THE DURANTEEEE

 

[MagicWithEarvin]

...

BRING IN THE DURANTEEEE

R I S E

 

[Criminal Upper]

The upcoming demo thread for this disaster will be a bloodening, thats for sure.

 

[Augemitbutter]

This thread has the feel of NeoGAF repeating the same shit over and over again ad nauseam.

ah, that's why i felt vita vibes in here.