Eolz
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If systems outsell the 3DS, it's not because the userbase is leaving, it's because the 3DS is at 22M+ consoles sold, with no other classic platform even half near it.
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Capcom on Monster Hunter possiblity on Switch: "Hope you enjoy it on 3DS first."
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If systems outsell the 3DS, it's not because the userbase is leaving, it's because the 3DS is at 22M+ consoles sold, with no other classic platform even half near it.
PdotMichael
Banned
Switch is advertised as Nintendo's new handheld in Japan.
3DS is not a legacy platform or in the near future but people will slowly move to other systems now - devs moving to other platforms as well will only accelerates it.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
the switch can have a maximum of over 6 hours, and not evey game on it is gonna be freaking zelda
Of course they will, but you're waving away the price difference as if that was nothing. Switch is 330 Euros, the 2DS is 80 Euros. Nintendo needs that entry price for Smartphone users who want to buy into their little hardware cosmos.
Teran
Member
The Japanese price of the Switch is actually quite a lot lower, at around 245+/- Euros depending on exchange rates. It's obviously still not exactly cheap, but definitely not as bad as we have it abroad.
As others have said, 2.5-6 hours (and yeah, Zelda is 2.5 hours).
But that's the point: the original 3DS managed 3 to 5 hours. It got bashed for it pretty hard by the way. Heck, I got in on the action. But while the 3DS didn't get a pass for it at the time, the Switch sorta gets a pass. Its horsepower is state-of-the-art for $300 mobile hardware in 2017, whereas the 3DS was much more conservative and was the successor to the DS, a system that had great battery life. Also, the limitations of battery tech are even more of a bottleneck now than they were 6 years ago.
Basically: 3-5 hours was shit back then and certainly didn't live up to consumer expectations, but it's very decent in 2017. It's sad, but that's the way it is. Battery tech sucks. Hard to fault Nintendo for it. Other manufacturers would deal with the same issue unless they drastically cut down on graphics horsepower or put a massive, bulky battery in it.
Consumers adapt their expectations according to their experiences. Battery tech just sucks all around. Having the DS run and run and run feels like a distant dream nowadays. What a shame.
SporeCrawler
Member
or cellphones. remember having to charge your phone once a week max?
PseudoViper
Member
Monster Hunter on the Switch? Omg, I'm so ready! Lol.
I should hope so since I've been looking forward to the games localization.
Why'd it sell so bad? Was the gameplay such a departure from what fans expect from Monster Hunter?
How so, was gameplay repetitious?
SporeCrawler
Member
so monster hunter XX will have a Breath of the Wild tie-in
id imagine that this may point to the direction to a switch port.
also fire emblem but this one does not seems to be specific to the latest entry of the series
id imagine that this may point to the direction to a switch port.
also fire emblem but this one does not seems to be specific to the latest entry of the series
MooseKnuckles
Banned
I'm ok with them taking their time moving over to switch development for purely selfish reasons - none of my other Monster Hunter playing friends have a switch yet, and after playing 3U, 4U and Generations over the course of a couple of years I'm feeling a little burned out on the formula. But the promise of the next mainline game on a hybrid system is literally a perfect fit.
So Capcom are going to release the 3DS version and then later release the Switch version?
3 Ultimate came out simultaneously for the WiiU and 3DS
4 came out in Japan exclusively and then 4U was localized for the west whilst the Japanese had to re-buy the game.
Generations was released in Japan and then localized several months later.
I'm guessing their tactics is to make the Japanese play on the 3DS, release a Switch version later with the option to port your save data across. Dirty dirty capcpom.
3 Ultimate came out simultaneously for the WiiU and 3DS
4 came out in Japan exclusively and then 4U was localized for the west whilst the Japanese had to re-buy the game.
Generations was released in Japan and then localized several months later.
I'm guessing their tactics is to make the Japanese play on the 3DS, release a Switch version later with the option to port your save data across. Dirty dirty capcpom.
My opinion is they have to have something like that lined up, otherwise I can't for the life of me see why they would ramp up production by 8 million. The question is when they decided to do this: we heard about it 2 weeks after launch, but this decision could have been made much earlier, when they realised they were getting monsters like pokémon and monster Hunter in the next fiscal year.
SporeCrawler
Member
Monsters like Pocket Monsters and Monster Hunter... lol
also dont forget Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade chronicles 2
True, especially Mario Odyssey and Splatoon 2 in addition to a surprise like I theorised before would warrant a shipment increase like they seem to be doing I think. Xenoblade 2 in addition will have some (albeit lesser) attractie power for the JRPG crowd.
Shikamaru Ninja
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What's Xenoblade going to do in Japan? Eek out another 80-120k?
I'm not convinced that a port or derivative Monster Hunter and Pokemon convert all those 3DS owners this fall. New versions next year maybe. But everything in tandem (3D Mario, Smash DX, Pokemon Stars) could work wonders.
DrROBschiz
Member
please capcom
make that global switch port a reality
make that global switch port a reality
We know the power pokémon had in Q4 2016 for the 3DS, if the Switch version could have a fraction of that power it would create a great base of Zelda, Mario, Splatoon and Pokémon that would convince a lot of people that the system has a good enough game lineup to jump in I think. This base above all could give the system some serious selling power imo.
Xenoblade 3D did about as well as Xenoblade X in Japan so a brand new entry on a more attractive, handheld platform does have potential to do more. It's not going to be a million seller or anything but it could do better.
Not in Japan.
nitekrawlwer
Member
They no longer need the cheap entry. That is becoming mobile games for them. Their mobile games are there to make people aware of their content. They don't have to put out entry level hardware for that anymore. Given most people already have a smartphone or tablet that means their entry to Nintendo franchises is now effectively 0 Euros.
Makes sense. Not.
Forget about entry semantics, cheap hardware is always a good selling point.
nitekrawlwer
Member
It makes huge amounts of sense to have recurring income stream that also is the best form of advertising. To do that without having to invest in making the software or hardware themselves no less.
Just because something is cheap doesn't mean it will sell well. It's always about value. Gamecube was $99 for much of it's lifespan but that wasn't enough of a selling point in the market for it.
Vaev
Member
With great power comes great (charging) responsibility.
Pejo
Member
This better happen, it's a large reason that I bought a switch. Probably want to get what they can get from the 3DS versions first, before announcing it though.
I'm ok with letting XX play out, and then doing a fresh MH5 on the Switch. New weapons, keep the QoL improvements, and HD ASSETS! I personally like Styles, but I wouldn't be too upset if they decided not to use them, too.
I love MH to death, but I cannot wait to get out of 240p hell.
I'm ok with letting XX play out, and then doing a fresh MH5 on the Switch. New weapons, keep the QoL improvements, and HD ASSETS! I personally like Styles, but I wouldn't be too upset if they decided not to use them, too.
I love MH to death, but I cannot wait to get out of 240p hell.
I haven't addressed the mobile games?
The cube didn't fail because of its price.
That's on you.
nitekrawlwer
Member
That they don't need a(nother) cheap entry level anymore?
It wasn't good enough for GCN, doesn't mean it wasn't good.
nitekrawlwer
Member
Astral Dog
Member
Zelda does alot of stuff but i wonder how signifantly better looking will fare on the Switch,linear and otherwise.
After all Zelda is still 100% Wii U port
The whole argument was about the necessity of a low at all.
DrROBschiz
Member
I wonder if the Switch version might be one of their E3 bombs to drop
between this, pokemon and mario this year?
holy shit that would be bonkers
PLEASE capcom
between this, pokemon and mario this year?
holy shit that would be bonkers
PLEASE capcom
If their Fall/Winter line up was Mario, Pokemon, Fire Emblem AND Monster Hunter it will probably be a good thing they doubled their production
UnemployedVillain
Member
I pray Gamefreak doesn't try and rush a Pokemon game for this year, unless it's like Stars or something. And wasn't FE announced as a 2018 game?
I was talking Stars, also Fire Emblem Warriors. I still don't believe Xenoblade 2 is hitting this year but that would be another big one
Jonneh3003
Banned
I would be quite happy with visuals on par with Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate on Wii U, just gimmie a new Monster Hunter with a comfortable controller!
Which could be a reason why they increased production so much. It's a very curious situation for sure.
Jonneh3003
Banned
Was hoping they'd use it as an opportunity to jump to PS4 or something
Monster Hunter does best on handhelds and I'm pretty sure Nintendo have had some kind of deal with Capcom ever since 3 Ultimate. It would be nice to have a Switch/PS4 multiplatform Monster Hunter but I don't think it's likely.
Oh shit I also forgot. We still don't know when Smash is going to be out, those Amiibo are out in 2017 soooooo
Metroid bomb believe.
I Stalk Alone
Member
I would not be surprised if the western release of xx during will be during the holidays and it will have a switch version. Gotta milk The japanese monhun fans one last time on 3ds since they will most likely jump on a likely switch monhun bundle during a pre TGS announcement
Well it came way earlier than TGS, but this thread was basically "don't be shocked if it gets announced on Switch"
Now we wait for localization announcement at E3 hopefully.