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Capcom removes rootkit from update to Street Fighter V
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thehillissilent
Member
Good riddance. You know they will try to bring it back though.
Dreams-Visions
Member
That was swift.
People were hacking the game for easy fight money and/or stealing paid DLC through fooling the server hacks.
It wasn't just for PC for the latter as the PC hacks even let PS4 players do it.
People were taking money away from capcom, what else were they supposed to do?
Edit: they needed to do a better job about it but they just panicked with the root kit.
Dark Ninja
Member
If I updated but never started the game up at all would it had installed it?
Not sure, but I'd run a check on your computer to be sure. If you can't delete it, restart your computer after you install the rollback.
No, I checked myself. It doesn't install until you start up the game and asks for permissions to install.
This. I get the concern of hacking the Fight Money system, but the rootkit thing wasn't the right way to go about it.
DryEyeRelief
Member
It makes me curious. Maybe they could have had a better platform if they delayed release.
Or was this venture just doomed from the start?
Root Kit is never the answer and it's completely illegal.
Also, the hacks for PS4 is done through hijacking the communications between the server and client by setting up a proxy. I once saw a video linked about it on SRK. Capcom really should encrypt their data communications between client and server. Blaming PC is complete BS.
AcceptableGhost
Member
The only way to protect the "integrity" of their fight money is to make more stuff server side. There is no other solution. This shitty early 2000s era malware style protection would do nothing but harm real customers.
Something server side instead of installing a root kit?!
Hey I'm not defending capcom, I'm just reiterating why they panicked and did what they did mainly because the same questions and accusations are made without reading.
They're not blizzard or any other developer with better security. This is the same company after all that had one guy work on SFV's netcode.
They're not blizzard or any other developer with better security. This is the same company after all that had one guy work on SFV's netcode.
Ultimadrago
Member
People can try to close their eyes and forgive Capcom all they want.
Much like Capcom's other exhibits of being stuffed to the brim with shit marketing/development decisions
I won't forget.
I won't.
Much like Capcom's other exhibits of being stuffed to the brim with shit marketing/development decisions
I won't forget.
I won't.
unknownhero
Member
Damage is already done in my eyes, seems capcom is joining wb on my list of "do not buy games from". A shame because I was looking forward to RE7.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
They just released Dead Rising like two weeks ago. This was dumb but come on.
On top of the Dead Rising mention above me in terms of Capcom, WB Games is actually making an effort to rectify things with the recent release of MKXL on PC.
You pointed towards PC "Hacks" paving the way for PS4 hacks which is not the case.
People were setting up proxies to capture data on the console and modify values since like week 1 or 2 of release nothing to do with PC SF5.
DryEyeRelief
Member
you have to remove the capcom.sys file yourself even after the update/reinstall to be safe.
It seems to be safe now from what I've read on the Steam discussions. Only problem is the rollback didn't actually delete Capcom.sys so people are manually deleting it. If you never had Capcom.sys in the first place then it should be fine as well.
My mistake on the PS4 front, but the PC still had hacking for easy fight money and just like the PS4 version were still able to pirate premium DLC.
Capcom is already poor as it is and this game bombed, so I see why they're so desperate in trying to protect their only means of making money with dlc.
That's what happens with no arcade version.
unknownhero
Member
1. I bought dead rising way before this happened.
2. The fact that capcom were wiling to install rootkits into the computers crossed a line. If they were willing to do that, and let's be honest in the fact that they are only rolling it back because they were caught, then who knows what stupidity they would try in the future.
I am aware of most of their practices and missteps but it was harder for me to "shitlist" them because I had fond memories of Street Fighter and Resident Evil but this did it for me.
Let's be honest here, they are only doing this so that they can sucker people into buying injustice 2 when it hits on pc. Will it be a good port? I can't say but even if it was how long til they go back to hiring cheap studios to port their games to the pc in the future?
Yeah I wish the game did better. But, it sucks Capcom thought this was a good idea.
Please Capcom not like this.
I don't believe they didn't think people wouldn't notice. The last version of SFV checks to see if you're running CheatEngine and will automatically close itself if you open it. They also have some weird memory encapsulation to protect itself from being edited - but note that there are plenty of workarounds/bypasses to this.
The people doing this know very well that the people trying to bypass their anti-cheat are sophisticated enough to understand what their software is doing to their computer.
I don't know why they did this, assuredly not for a good reason, but I find it more illogical to think whoever programmed this didn't think others would find it.
The people doing this know very well that the people trying to bypass their anti-cheat are sophisticated enough to understand what their software is doing to their computer.
I don't know why they did this, assuredly not for a good reason, but I find it more illogical to think whoever programmed this didn't think others would find it.
I don't know why this make me laugh so hard
Do you know how a rooter rooter works? Just like that but on your PC.
I thought it was doomed before release simply because making the game into a service means that it always need a connection to servers supporting it, and because the amount of people who would spend money on the service is limited.
We saw plenty of issues early on with server disconnections. The fact that they had to drop their plan of using their own digital currency tied to real money and opted to use Steam/PSN for purchases, and the fact that a Scooby Doo mystery is tougher than the security around the game are just a few of many reasons as to why the game should have been delayed instead of rushed out the door at full price.
The rootkit I'm sure crosses the line for many people who've been waiting for months for them to get their shit together. I thought we finally had the full game people expected until they used Urien's trojan thong to sneak one in on people.
Vestal
Gold Member
heres an idea, SHUTDOWN the Fight money system until you come up with a solution that does not fuck your paying customers. Many games have done this in the past when presented with a vulnerable system.
Heres another idea.. Create a better system to prevent this sort of situation.
They already got away with it, see?
This time next week all will be forgotten. No matter how many dumb things Capcom does.
Something something gameplay, something something pros, popular in the FGC, etc. etc
Let Ono break it down for you.
Ono: Hi 🍕😺 today I'll explain what problems can arise from a root kit.
Ono: a root kit can allow malicious access via backdoor..think of it as leaving your backdoor unlocked and open so assholes from around the world can enter your house and 💩on your floor, fuck your 💁🏻, and steal your 💰, While thinking 💭 it's in the right just because some people in your town might have modded their copy of SFV to show off Cammys roast beef 👄
Ono: Thankfully here at Capcom we are so stupid we can't even deploy a simple root kit without having to patch it out hours later because we screwed up the game for people that legit purchased the game.
Ono: Thank you enjoy the game & please tell your friends to buy it. 😊
Ultimadrago will remember that.
This is Capcom, the company that decided that the entire networking system for SFV was to be only handled by one person!
If SFV didn't have good gameplay and wasn't as great as a game as it is fundamentally, SFV would have totally been the original No Man's Sky.
ramoisdead
Member
"Going forward, as we aim to become the world's number one game developer..."
Great way on going about it, CAPCPOM.
Great way on going about it, CAPCPOM.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
That's been a problem since the Windows security update months back. Several angry people here told me it was my problem. That I should've configured my system better.
unapersson
Member
Maybe the terminology is slightly different on Windows, but what makes this a root kit? Does it give non-admin users Administrator access?
The issue is not that they are trying to prevent people from cheating and gaining mass amounts of Fight Money. The issue is how they went about trying to fix this. I think everyone understands Capcom's motivation for trying to get this patched up, and it isn't unreasonable.
It was like 30% when the patch hit. Then it dropped that far. It's been going lower and lower and lower over the past day or two. How did Capcom think this was a good idea?
The FM/Zenny system was dumb in the first place. They are trying to copy DOTA and other MOBA F2P mechanics while ALSO not being F2P. Who at Capcom thought that was a good idea? At this point, they should scrap those and just have the season pass(es) be the DLC packs like they had in SF4.
sixteen-bit
Member
A little late, but I'm pretty proud of it.
lmao
And pissing all your MH money away by going all in on mobile.
