game2brain
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I remember ps3 launch, the sony nba game being 1080p... 7/8 years later, we get excuses blabering everywhere
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NoMoreTrolls
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You're right lol.
I'm just super conflicted right now. An unprecedented amount of conflict for me, personally. I guess it really shone through in that post :/
DirtyLarry
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Just a little perspective...
If a professional basketball player made 60% of the shots they took, they would have the highest shooting percentage in the entire history of the NBA. (.599 is the record)
Considering CBOAT seems to have at least a similar percentage of correctly stated video game related leaks, he or she is a legend.
Carry On.
If a professional basketball player made 60% of the shots they took, they would have the highest shooting percentage in the entire history of the NBA. (.599 is the record)
Considering CBOAT seems to have at least a similar percentage of correctly stated video game related leaks, he or she is a legend.
Carry On.
except a little over 90%, so super legend it is.
FunkyPajamas
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paolo11
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Hehehe, pilot dem titans using the WiiU pad..
But back to topic. I'm concerned about the upclocks that causes RROD.
May want to edit that ..
la flama blanca
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Goodbye.
BronsonLee
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CBoaT da bidet gawd though
Also guys, what would editing do now that everyone has quoted?!
Zatoichi's Cane
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Well, the assumption right now is that it will be a 1 year exclusive. At that point we are more likely to see titanfall 2.
Steve McQueen
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Agree. There must be more to it.
I'm Not gonna cancel...just gonna wait and hang in there
Zatoichi's Cane
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Did they say that? I didn't know.
If Titanfall is a huge hit or bomb, does that change the supposed/rumored 1 year exclusivity?
One could argue that if its a huge hit, that MS will pull more strings to keep it exclusive, yet if it is huge, then surely EA would want that game on other platforms to get even more sales.
If its a bomb, will Sony even give a shit?
Or is all this irrelevant and game is being semi developed as we speak?
All that is assuming The Buttocks is right, which he usually is
One could argue that if its a huge hit, that MS will pull more strings to keep it exclusive, yet if it is huge, then surely EA would want that game on other platforms to get even more sales.
If its a bomb, will Sony even give a shit?
Or is all this irrelevant and game is being semi developed as we speak?
All that is assuming The Buttocks is right, which he usually is
Forsaken82
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RROD was caused by poorly placed (and cheap) components not overclocking.
Mugatu
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Didn't the prototype PS3 have dual HDMI ports so you could drive dual HD (presumable 1080p) displays at once?
Well they certainly aren't going to be on a one year rotation, that'd be insane.
Microsoft managed to keep Gears of War exclusive, and that was a huge hit. But meanwhile, Mass Effect was also a big hit, but that eventually went multiplatform. So I don't think we have enough information to make an accurate prediction either way.
You think the one team they have is going to make two games back to back one year after the other?
It is 'confirmed'. Respawn has already heavily hinted at a PS4 version.
If it is a hit, it will come out as a port from the PC version in the spring of 2015. If it is a bomb, it will depend on the size of the bomb. If it on the level of Haze, it will remain exclusive.
Gears of War is an actual exclusive like Mass Effect. Only when the original contract runs out, a port is possible. That is why it took 5 years or something to get Mass Effect on the PS3.
Zatoichi's Cane
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Can Crusher
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It's like Bioshock. EA will port Titanfall to the PS4 whether it's a big hit, a non event or a bomb.
hellmonkey
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Do you have a link? I missed that bit of information.
Why do you guys think that it is EA that would want to port Titanfall to other platforms?
Come on guys, it's a game from the original Call of Duty Modern Warfare developers. They will do what they want and guess what: they want to be a even bigger success than before. They will want to port it.
Come on guys, it's a game from the original Call of Duty Modern Warfare developers. They will do what they want and guess what: they want to be a even bigger success than before. They will want to port it.
Resolution has trended down during this gen, especially with Multiplatform games coming from PC as lead platform. Consoles simply can't keep up and so are dropping the resolution and/or framerate to keep up. Even though devs are more familiar with the hardware, they are simply being asked to do too much, and something has to give
simplythebest
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Microsoft’s Albert Penello Investigates on Xbox One/PS4 Resolution Differences, Discusses Findings
When I was searching I saw an article on it. I don’t actually know, so I can’t confirm anything.
To be clear – I don’t know the resolution for every 3rd party game on XBO. I don’t know why people think I would. Do you believe the 3rd parties are giving me a report on the latest resolutions of their games? Or I can just call up and they will share it?
I know the resolutions of our First party games, that’s it.
And, to be clear, I was asking if anyone had a list COMPARING Xbox One and PS4 resolutions. Even in the list above, it doesn’t give me the XBO resolutions for a lot of 3rd parties.
I ended up generating my own list.
Of course he was asked to share his list, and here’s what he found out:
Well my list has a lot of holes in. It basically looks the same as what was posted above – I can’t find comparisons of both platforms for 3rd party titles.
Basically, what I see is that Sony’s first party games are all 1080p. Our games are a mix. And of course you mix inconsistencies on framerates where both KI and Forza are 60fps, DC and Knack are 30, and KIllzone is a mix.
But I was more curious about the 3rd party titles and I’ve found no official comments on their resolutions. Given that, and the fact I don’t know because they are 3rd party games, means I can’t draw any conclusions.
Upon further questioning, he explained how the relationship between the Xbox team and third parties works, mentioning that only very few at Microsoft are privy on sensitive information from third parties.
I’m sorry that peoples’ lack of understanding of our team works, gets translated into me being disingenuous.
OF COURSE we have a 3rd party team that works very closely with publishers.
That team is organizationally separate from the rest of us. Why? Because that team deals with very sensitive information. Remember, we are both a competitor and a partner to our publishers.
To preserve that balance, our 3rd party team isn’t in the habit of doling out information to the rest of the team, including me, whenever we want. I don’t get to walk over there and see whatever I want, or get these types of questions answered because of my position.
So what do you want to be true? That I can walk over and get any piece of information I want about any 3rd party game? Or that the IP of our partners is secured organizationally so publishers are confident that what they share with that team remains confidential?
Because the latter part is true. So yes, a lot of these details I will get near the same time the game actually ships.
So let’s use some common sense. Almost nobody that works on Xbox knows details of 3rd party games besides that team.
When I was searching I saw an article on it. I don’t actually know, so I can’t confirm anything.
To be clear – I don’t know the resolution for every 3rd party game on XBO. I don’t know why people think I would. Do you believe the 3rd parties are giving me a report on the latest resolutions of their games? Or I can just call up and they will share it?
I know the resolutions of our First party games, that’s it.
And, to be clear, I was asking if anyone had a list COMPARING Xbox One and PS4 resolutions. Even in the list above, it doesn’t give me the XBO resolutions for a lot of 3rd parties.
I ended up generating my own list.
Of course he was asked to share his list, and here’s what he found out:
Well my list has a lot of holes in. It basically looks the same as what was posted above – I can’t find comparisons of both platforms for 3rd party titles.
Basically, what I see is that Sony’s first party games are all 1080p. Our games are a mix. And of course you mix inconsistencies on framerates where both KI and Forza are 60fps, DC and Knack are 30, and KIllzone is a mix.
But I was more curious about the 3rd party titles and I’ve found no official comments on their resolutions. Given that, and the fact I don’t know because they are 3rd party games, means I can’t draw any conclusions.
Upon further questioning, he explained how the relationship between the Xbox team and third parties works, mentioning that only very few at Microsoft are privy on sensitive information from third parties.
I’m sorry that peoples’ lack of understanding of our team works, gets translated into me being disingenuous.
OF COURSE we have a 3rd party team that works very closely with publishers.
That team is organizationally separate from the rest of us. Why? Because that team deals with very sensitive information. Remember, we are both a competitor and a partner to our publishers.
To preserve that balance, our 3rd party team isn’t in the habit of doling out information to the rest of the team, including me, whenever we want. I don’t get to walk over there and see whatever I want, or get these types of questions answered because of my position.
So what do you want to be true? That I can walk over and get any piece of information I want about any 3rd party game? Or that the IP of our partners is secured organizationally so publishers are confident that what they share with that team remains confidential?
Because the latter part is true. So yes, a lot of these details I will get near the same time the game actually ships.
So let’s use some common sense. Almost nobody that works on Xbox knows details of 3rd party games besides that team.
Louis Cyphre
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Basically, what I see is that Sonys first party games are all 1080p. Our games are a mix. And of course you mix inconsistencies on framerates where both KI and Forza are 60fps, DC and Knack are 30, and KIllzone is a mix.
But I was more curious about the 3rd party titles and Ive found no official comments on their resolutions. Given that, and the fact I dont know because they are 3rd party games, means I cant draw any conclusions.
I find it odd that he doesn't mention Ryse which isn't 1080p or runs at 60fps. If Sony has decided to make every one of their games 1080p but with variable frame rates that is quite a guideline as opposed to whatever works on the XBox One. Not every game needs to run at 60fps but 1080p should be the new standard.
But I was more curious about the 3rd party titles and Ive found no official comments on their resolutions. Given that, and the fact I dont know because they are 3rd party games, means I cant draw any conclusions.
I find it odd that he doesn't mention Ryse which isn't 1080p or runs at 60fps. If Sony has decided to make every one of their games 1080p but with variable frame rates that is quite a guideline as opposed to whatever works on the XBox One. Not every game needs to run at 60fps but 1080p should be the new standard.
Macready1306
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Wrong. 1080p at 60 fps locked should be standard on both xbone and ps4. That they can't achieve that on all games yet is not great.
SneakyStephan
Banned
I wonder if it'll be like this gen
At the start try for 1080p (wipeout, ridge racer)
then almost everything is 720p
then stuff becomes 600p and people start to complain
then the framerate goes (donald everything was 24 fps .jpg)
then most devs just said fuck it lets bake all the lighting and most of the shadows like it's 1999 because it always looked better and will always look better on hardware that is too weak to do it properly when dynamic
(which was probably the best thing to do)
and then it seemed more games were 720p again ,at the same garbage framerates , and/or with some lines cut off the top and bottom, mini black bars so they don't have to scale at an akward ratio if they can't make 720p
I wonder if the cycle will be the same next gen, in order to chase shinier graphics
I really don't think such an insignificant upclock will cause RROD. If RROD happens again (I really doubt it would, because I don't think MS wants to take a billion dollar loss on that again) it'll be because of something much worse than something like a little upclock.
LiquidSolid
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Not to single you out because you've already been corrected by a few people but I have absolutely no clue why this keeps being brought up, even by respected guys like the Giantbomb crew. We're not talking about bloody Ubisoft, we're talking about possibly the smallest AAA team in the industry. A 2 year rotation alone would be pushing them pretty hard.
HawksWinStanley
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Considering the userbase that the PS4 will have by then it's essentially guaranteed that it'll show up on that platform and you're probably right in that it's being developed alongside the XB1 version.
I doubt userbase has anything to do with it, short of the PS4 becoming another Wii U(it's not). It'll get there as soon as they're contractually allowed. It all depends on the strings that came with the moneyhat. If you believe the rumblings, it's just a timed exclusive.
jhmtehgamr20xx
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It's practically confirmed. Have a (potentially) massive FPS and dare not release it to over half the next-gen audience? Suicide for profits.
HawksWinStanley
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Well according to the guy above you it has nothing to do with userbase so I guess it's a crapshoot as to whether or not it ends up on PS4.
1080p should be the standard resolution for all games. But 60fps should only be the standard on certain genres like FPS, Fighting, Racing, & Sports games.
Pretty much anything that requires twitch-reactions should be 60FPS so I agree with FPS, Racing and Fighting.
Sword Of Doom
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When I hear Titan Fall 2 it reminds me of Gears of War and how that never ended up on any other platform
CambriaRising
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Except PC.
Sword Of Doom
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Well we'll see if Titan Fall 2 will be on PC. Remember Gears 1?
What is this mythical creature you talk of?
Sword Of Doom
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Developers can't grow? You guys talk like they'll stay small forever. That game is gonna be a huge hit. But yeah even if they grow they'll need a couple of teams to pull off one year rotations.
eddfromtheriver
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I hope you're wrong, but it doesn't sound unlikely...
Sword Of Doom
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I think multiplatform games might do that. I mean how many platforms are these games gonna be on? Think about all the resources you need to port the game to each platform and if you have time, optimize. Exclusives should be better. Especially on the more powerful console
I think this will exactly happen. I don't think the XBO/PS4 is capable of full 1080P will maximum eye candy, e.g,. AA, AF, etc. I think over time both consoles will be sub1080p, which ever resolution it is while balancing all the other stuff and surprisingly similar to this generation.
Does ps4 launch titles have exactly as you described? they can only get more refined as they learn the system of which is not being fully utilised. Wipeout isnt exactly an open world game. X1 is possibly so far based on evidence the only console struggling with 1080p titles.
travisbickle
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Over time of course the games will drop resolution as more is asked from them in the graphics department. But it appears PS4 is a fair bit healthier at the moment, looking at those lists, and CBOAT's cryptic messages, and 1080p will last longer on it.
Nightengale
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Gears was published/paid in full by Microsoft.
Titanfall is not.
Same reason no one really expects Sunset Overdrive to be ported to Ps4, despite Insomniac owning the IP. MS very likely has rights of first refusal on those titles.
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