Just like in every other fighting game. Your point?
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CrowbCat: For Honor P2P connectivity
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Just like in every other fighting game. Your point?
I guess because many people like playing with friends so they'll co-op or play 2v2 or 4v4.
I'm not defending the P2P bullshit as it's frustrating as hell but it's not nearly as bad as people make it.
OnionPowder
Member
How many other fighting games have a 4v4 mode?
The game has been marketed around 4vs4 and Dominion mode. You can continue to act dense and pretend this isn't the case but its reality. This is the mode the majority of players will play the majority of the time and it is the mode most affected by P2P.
I'm talking about his argument saying theres only one "1 v 1 " mode. This game has extra modes aside from 1 v 1.. but the balancing revolves around 1s. It depends on the player what they prefer to play... but to say the game isn't a fighting game LOL
LinkSlayer64
Member
Not that I'm arguing for or against, but Smash Bros for WiiU, that is only one of course.
While the topic is specifically about the woes of P2P connectivity, I think the solution is not only dedicated servers, but to stop relying entirely on match-making. A server list with dedicated servers, and most importantly the ability to create you own is why multiplayer communities on PC flourish and endure for years.
The online experience playing games such as Chivalry: Medieval Warfare or Mount & Blade: Warband is significantly better because of this, even though they're several years old at this point. Not to mention they're a lot better games too.
The online experience playing games such as Chivalry: Medieval Warfare or Mount & Blade: Warband is significantly better because of this, even though they're several years old at this point. Not to mention they're a lot better games too.
Doesn't matter what its marketed around. Its a fighting game. You literally have movesets, counter grabs, parries, deflects, etc.
OnionPowder
Member
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Nah man, it's a shooter with swords. That's what Ubisoft told me
Harken Raiser
Banned
Anarchy Reigns had up to 16 players in a match.
I heard it was Frog Fractions 3.
travisbickle
Member
I don't see the problem, it's ninja teleportation right?
Where did I say this? He has to make money off of his videos so he takes the worst examples he can find and in my experience it's nothing like this.
Smooth Operator
Member
I'm fine with the 1v1 mode being P2P. It's a fighting game so i have no issue with that.
For the 2v2/4v4 modes tho', dedicated servers should be the norm.
For the 2v2/4v4 modes tho', dedicated servers should be the norm.
Oh and btw.. ill just leave this here:
Oh and maybe Eurogamers review:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-02-14-for-honor-is-the-best-fighting-game-ive-played-in-ages
Oh wait they call it a fighting game too.. weird.
They probably have the worst dedicated servers then. It's bad for me :/.
Oh and btw.. ill just leave this here:
But what about the Switch?!
AFAIK Siege was P2P when it launched (literally killed the game for my friends and me) and moved on to servers for ranked and even later for all pvp modes.
OnionPowder
Member
They do
Oh and btw.. ill just leave this here:
Good god. Its a game where the main mode is 4 vs 4 with bots to mow down. The game being a fighting game doesn't justify using P2P. You not experiencing problems doesn't invalidate the problems many others of had.
No one invalidates the problems but you guys suddenly started with "it's not a fighting game"
Go back and read my post you quoted and maybe you'll wonder why I even took the time to respond to you.
The dude said "but this is not a fighting game. It's not that hard to understand. You are not playing against one single opponent in a very controled environment."
Its a fighting game. Deal with it lul
crazepharmacist
Member
If someone told me this video was faked I'd believe them because I haven't had a single issue demonstrated in my dozen or so hours playing the open beta and release version on PC and PS4. You know what? I wouldn't be surprised if this guy's NAT is purposely closed to generate controversy/views.
50 hours overall in two betas and now 48 after release, dropping from the matches has been annoying and happens too often imo. Not enough to not make me enjoy the game though, since I have experienced no lag at all and the game itself is really great. If I have encountered some lag it's not enough to really notice it, so that side is good I think. But I've dropped from matches daily.
Edit: On PC. Also one of my friends had to tinker with their modem to get it work. He would otherwise drop from 90% of 4vs4 matches even before they started. When we did custom games either duels or 2vs2 brawls it worked fine on him even then. But after setting up the modem, it's been fine.
Edit: On PC. Also one of my friends had to tinker with their modem to get it work. He would otherwise drop from 90% of 4vs4 matches even before they started. When we did custom games either duels or 2vs2 brawls it worked fine on him even then. But after setting up the modem, it's been fine.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
I guess it's different per person. I've had occassional issues, but on the whole it works fine for me. Definitely not as bad as the video makes out.
As usual for CrowbCat, hugely yes. By a massive degree.
What did he do
xviper
Member
i always said that the Beta is exactly the same as the full game and many don't believe me
this is a lesson learned the hard way to those who bought it
there is no such thing as " it's just a Beta, they will fix it in the full game" especially when the beta is like 1 month or less before the game releases
this is a lesson learned the hard way to those who bought it
there is no such thing as " it's just a Beta, they will fix it in the full game" especially when the beta is like 1 month or less before the game releases
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
I assume CrowbCat is exaggerating the connectivity issues, right? I've watched a lot of streams of this game and the online seemed fine. It can't be worse than past Gears games use of P2P.
I'm saying that!
Leafhopper
Banned
P2P only makes sense for the 1 v 1 mode but, going by how bad this can get who knows if that will be okay in the grand scheme of things either.
I'm pretty sure it's a Multiplayer Online Battle Arena game
The warping in the video is pretty egregious and in my experience fairly rare. But experiences like that are going to be inevitable due to the nature of people's connections or whatever crud-ass nodes they live near.
However, what is a frequent issue in the game is the consistent amount of resyncing that happens throughout a night. In fact, I had this happen to me last night:
This is beyond horseshit and tied to a network problem in the game that is incredibly common.
(The guy in that gif's teammate ganked me and he walked away.)
Dr_Boris_Goltz
Banned
I feel Crowbcat is a great service to the industry.
Well those games game out years ago. Its 2017 now.
24 hours in and had one match end on me. Only complaint is the wonky matchmaking which is sometimes instant and sometimes takes it's sweet time. Get that consistent and I'm ecstatic.
But it's a fighting game and p2p is superior to dedicated servers so that gif is a forgery.The warping in the video is pretty egregious and in my experience fairly rare. But experiences like that are going to be inevitable due to the nature of people's connections or whatever crud-ass nodes they live near.
However, what is a frequent issue in the game is the consistent amount of resyncing that happens throughout a night. In fact, I had this happen to me last night:
This is beyond horseshit and tied to a network problem in the game that is incredibly common.
(The guy in that gif's teammate ganked me and he walked away.)
It is and nobody has said that p2p has no issues. The fact is that for 1v1 and 2v2 the p2p connection isn't the end of the world many people seem to think it is. Sure for 4v4 it causes many problems and dedicated servers would probably be better, but the 4v4 modes are the worst modes in the game so personally it's not a big deal for me. Plus that gif is from a 4v4 mode where shit like that happens a lot more often.
Problem is, at least on pc, 4v4 is the mode with more player
Yup. Angry Joe is doing a review on the game and said he's now down on it because of all the error disconnects and lag he keeps experiencing, it was pretty bad the last time he stream the game on Twitch, also hates the fact that there's no dedicated sever that would've helped on this issue.
When the player pool according to the game is around 70000 players there are plenty of people in 1v1 and brawls. A much bigger problem in my mind is the matchmaking which can throw newbies at you even if you are prestiged on multiple characters, for some reason the game lifts the skill restriction parameters just after a few seconds of searching.
Well that's what crowbcat is about, take a game that has a issue and make it look like it's the worst thing ever
His review thread for the game is fucked regardless because hes Joe even if the disconnects are a valid criticism.
Yeah, it's what he does and it's entertaining. Online is pretty smooth for the most part, with occasional hiccups, like literally every other online game ever.
A proper peer system for 1v1 maybe, maybe 2v2 might work but the excuse of it's a fighting game went down the toilet when Ubisoft decided to market 4v4 as the true game mode.
Bonus clip: at 15 minute mark https://youtu.be/OA8xrgLqQZ8
RocknRola
Member
I had some issues with the Beta, but never to that degree (like warping, players lagging massively and all that). I think I only tried 1v1 like....twice and it played okay, but again my experience was very limited with that. I mostly played 4v4 Dominion. Which was super fun, but indeed had some network issues.
Durrzerker
Banned
For Honor is likely my GOTY but the network issues are indeed a bummer
They dont hurt my love of the game but no one should give them a free pass
They dont hurt my love of the game but no one should give them a free pass